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You do understand the meaning of the term: "daft," do you not?

daft - silly ? but daft headed I'd say - stupid or maybe not I don't use this work

Statistically speaking, I'm 'smarter' than roughly 95% of any given population. The top 10 and 5% are often relative topic/ability specialists who are difficult to accurately compare against each other. Not to mention that giving people in the top 10 percent of the pouplation a test designed for about 70% of the pouplation is going to skew their scores.

Anyway - of course I think my opinion is 'right' - or at least highly relevant. Else I would not have and/or give one. I'm not going to sit and discuss in detail something I don't feel I have a competent understanding of. Only fools do that sort of thing.

Statistically speaking you're also 'richer' than 80% population which doesn't seem so if you look at it from different prospective


I'm speculating on who may or may not be responsibile.

And explaining to you why some sort of government-sponsored operation is exceptionally unlikely.

maybe I made things complicated from the start because I didn't give any thought on you're speculation, I don't think that some bloke with knowledge of an high school student could accomplish it... explosion itself didn't fail but outcome looked as if it was made only to scare people but not to harm people, not how terrorist's act... another possibility could ofc be crazy ''scientist'' :cool: you might be right though, I'm just improvising on this topic anyway

It's as if you know exactly what buttons of mine to press. You are, obviously, quite capable of utilizing the English language. Please do not go out of your way to make yourself look like a gheto rat.

gheto maybe, rat? hmm

I did have respect. I explained to you, in detail, the problems/conflicts with your idea. To which you respond with a few quotes about how -suppoesedly- people will submit to anything following acts of terrorism and a quote saying that explosions and government interest go hand in hand.

Yet you continue to say: "Man... just sayin... it -could- be the government...."

that's what I'm sayin.. jsut sayin.. I wouldn't bet on it

You want to know the face of government conspiracy? Try these on for size:








Those are real government 'conspiracies.' They aren't hidden in angrams on your milk carton - they are right there, in plain sight, taking advantage of the fact that people are generally clueless and can't think far enough ahead to navigate a right angle in the hallway.

All of those things have been discussed as huge issues since at least the 90s. Social Security has been a topic since the 80s. Earmarks since the 1800s - and Fannie and Freddie have -always- been a topic of concern (especially when Congress decided to remove a lot of regulatory restrictions on them in order to increase the national housing rate).

These are things that have been talked and talked and talked about - and nothing ever. ****ing. happens. People in congress get elected to 'fix' these things. Don't do it. Cash in on the broken system (not to mention get a paycheck for the rest of their lives)... and may just insult your intelligence by asking for you to vote them in yet again.

That's the real conspiracy. It's right there. It's been reported on.

The only force angry enough to represent how livid I am over that issue is a black hole. The only way for me to properly express my emotion would be to stare so hatefully at 'the system' that a black hole forms and destroys the known universe.

but what's the point of talking, people talk and talk... but some one has to walk the walk.... by switching the congress you just create an new illusion of hope, I don't even go voting anymore. It's like changing avatar on you're profile you look different but still the same.

every thing you said is true, but there's more to it

btw : question - Terrorist's have never hit or attended any attacks on the gov itself :bouncy: only civilians. why?

If I was terrorist ''well trained'' I'd hit official's and it's not an hard task to take one or two .
 

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daft - silly ? but daft headed I'd say - stupid or maybe not I don't use this work

Silly, mad, crazy, delusional.

Statistically speaking you're also 'richer' than 80% population which doesn't seem so if you look at it from different prospective

*sigh*

What makes me 'smart' is that I remember things effortlessly. Where others seem to have difficulty establishing a memory of facts, figures, experiences, etc to recall when thinking of things - I do so without effort. It's nothing for me to factor over 30 things into a conclusion, simultaneously. Most people struggle with more than five. This is why I take a few small facts/figures and extrapolate much larger processes from them. It generally either leaves people feeling intimidated (as they can, literally, sit there and watch me learn their hard-earned degree in a couple discussions with them) or awed.

Of course, because of this, I'm a horrible student. I'll blow tests out of the water. But I simply despise homework and honestly am so bored in most classes that it's punishment to show up to the things. Unless it's a lab or the instructor is a very engaging character...

Which is somewhat sad, really - because I could easily have a Masters or even a PhD, by now (likely all paid for by academic scholarships). Heck - probably a PhD in one subject and a Masters in two or three (why not take a few extra courses in a related subject?).

Of course, it doesn't help that in my thirst for knowledge - I've gotten a very advanced informal education from taking part in debates and reading through physics and other forums to familiarize myself with topics well beyond my qualified level (which means I have to slosh through the lower courses of qualification/certification to get to where I actually am - which is -not- going to help the boredom issue).

Anyway - enough rambling about me.

maybe I made things complicated from the start because I didn't give any thought on you're speculation, I don't think that some bloke with knowledge of an high school student could accomplish it... explosion itself didn't fail but outcome looked as if it was made only to scare people but not to harm people, not how terrorist's act... another possibility could ofc be crazy ''scientist'' :cool: you might be right though, I'm just improvising on this topic anyway

I largely explained this, already.

I can make a 'bomb' using sugar and some commonly used fertilizers (Potassium Nitrate) - it's commonly used for hobby rockets. I'd have to tweak it a bit, but it could be done. One can also make, or simply buy black powder. The challenge with using black powder is that it has a relatively low detonation velocity compared to modern plastic and composite explosives. In order to generate pressure necessary for the bomb, one has to put it in a very strong casing with high material tensile strength that is also rigged to fail once the pressure inside reaches a certain level (preferably once almost all of the combustible material has been consumed).

This is an engineering challenge that is easy to figure out on paper - much more difficult to accomplish in real life. Even then - these two bombs are going to be relatively weak for their size. A whole backpack full would be enough to blow the walls out of your bedroom (assuming standard home construction) - but when you consider that a whole backpack full of C-4 could blow the walls out of your whole house - and you begin to see the issue, here.

To illustrate my point - take apart a firecracker and simply set the powder on fire. It will 'burst' - but it's just a 'whoosh.' ... It doesn't "bang" or generate a very much power (power is the amount of energy divided by time). While you can't really get your hands on C-4 to compare - C-4 will go 'bang' without any form of containment. The concussion generated by the blasting cap transmits through the C-4 at very high speeds and triggers a very, very rapid cascade of chemical reactions that take place within fractions of a second - which is why it is able to generate very large amounts of power (and go "bang") even without being contained in a paper/metal/etc tube.

To make more advanced and powerful bombs - you need more advanced machining and processing capability. While there's not necessarily a registered list of people with the potential to build such things - you drastically cut down on the number of viable suspects. If you use your fairly capable machine shop in your garage to turn out bombs - don't be surprised when police put it under surveilance and catch you. And you're not much of a freedom fighter - so it's not like you've got an insurgent militia to stand up and defend their weapon supplier.

Which is why these bombs are often fairly simple and limited from an engineering standpoint. People who can make more advanced stuff tend to not want to rat themselves out. Further - all explosives manufactured around the world have a particular 'signature' that is put into them by the company (they even make it so that they can identify what batch of explosive you were using - which gives the potential suppliers away).

Honestly - this person intends to continue doing such things - as they did not bother to reveal their identity in the attack. From a logical standpoint - if this is 'their goal' - to kill people at this event - then they would have been much better off to simply roll in with a couple rifles or handguns and have at it. The stand-off nature of this attack means that there will likely be more if the individual(s) responsible are not apprehended.

gheto maybe, rat? hmm

It's one thing to have a sort of pride for your origins/upbringing. It's another to embrace some of the blatantly negative things it entails.

that's what I'm sayin.. jsut sayin.. I wouldn't bet on it

It's hardly even in the equation... it's like... "Hey guys! That shadow over there could be an alien!"

... there's not even the beginnings of a reason to suspect that it might be.

but what's the point of talking, people talk and talk... but some one has to walk the walk.... by switching the congress you just create an new illusion of hope, I don't even go voting anymore. It's like changing avatar on you're profile you look different but still the same.[/quote]

That's just it... not enough people are voting for the people who will fix things. I'm not talking about party line candidates (who just talk). It's once in a blue moon that they actually do something useful. I'm talking about the third party and independent people who are willing to stand in the middle of a session of Congress and call the rest of the retards out and start calling for trials of treason for this nonsense.

It's no longer about ideology - it's about survival. The math is certain. We. Are. Going. To. Collapse. Unless something is done and the ridiculous policies of this nation power-washed out of existence by some sweeping miracle of voter competency.

every thing you said is true, but there's more to it

It's largely corporations doing what they do best - capitalizing on things - while Congress has misled the people into believing that the government can be trusted to regulate business and keep the nation's best interests in
mind. Then they take favors and hand-outs from lobbyists who work to ensure the regulations benefit established corporations and near-monopolies.

Then Congress goes after votes by increasing federal spending for programs. The "balance" in the system is that the Democrats won't allow the Republicans to pass additional defense spending without increasing entitlement spending and vice-versa.

It's pathetic and, personally, I think they should all be put on trial for treason. The problem is that many of our state governments suffer the same problem, as does our Supreme Court and presidential administration. ...

Which is why I am honestly of the opinion that the only way to 'fix' this is to draft a new Constitution that re-clarifies the boundaries of state and federal governments and adds new restrictions to the federal government and allows the state governments to introduce some checks against it.

But that probably won't happen without a civil war or two to establish a clear ideological majority (I suspect the people who believe in an armed citizenship will come out on top of that one... just a guess).

Fun times...

btw : question - Terrorist's have never hit or attended any attacks on the gov itself :bouncy: only civilians. why?

If I was terrorist ''well trained'' I'd hit official's and it's not an hard task to take one or two .

Civilians are easier targets.

Properly hitting a specific government official takes diligent surveilance and/or inside information - both of which are usually outside the skill and resource set of terrorists (domestic or otherwise). Political officials travel and their offices are usually near a police presence or high amounts of public activity. This complicates surveilance and the attack. You don't necessarily know when the public official will be present, and you never know who might be around and their relative profession.

Again - a lot of the people with the know-how and confidence to pull something like this off are simply not going to do it.

On the other hand - you almost always know where civilians are going to be. You don't necessarily know who will be there - but you do know that there are usually a considerable number of people at these things. Your goal is to kill people and make your cause known or feared. You don't care who dies. You go for the places where people are in number.

It's the same in countries where the attacks are politically motivated. Iraq sees multiple bombings taking place as Shiites and Sunis deck it out. How many of their religious leaders are targets? They usually aren't - it's the people in the market places who get hit.

In places like Ireland when the Catholics and Protestants were killing each other, it wasn't religious leaders who were specifically being targeted - it was usually that the churches were being bombed or set on fire.
 

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My heart goes out to all thoes hurt and the people who have died
 

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Deidara was not behind this! pein was! :I must remind the world of pain and despair!

Nah i dont know could be some whacko ass dude who takes fiction seriously and believes in internet rp girlfriends and dreams of one day banging sakura
 

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[Update] 8 Year old boy killed in Boston Bombing

A CANDLE has been lit in front of the home of the young boy killed in the Boston Marathon bombing, as his mother and sister remain in hospital.

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Martin Richard, 8, of Dorchester, was at the marathon to watch his father race. He was standing near the finish line, waiting to give his dad a hug.

Martin's mother, Denise, is in hospital with "grievous injuries," The Times of London reports. His six-year-old sister lost a leg in the blast. Her name has not been released.

The status of his father, William, has also not been released.

Martin was among three people killed and more than 152 injured when two explosions rocked the Boston Marathon.
At least 17 of the injured are in a critical condition and it is thought as many as 30 victims may have needed amputations or major corrective surgery on maimed limbs.

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At least eight of the wounded are thought to be children, including a two-year-old boy who suffered a head injury.

Today, as the United States remained on full alert, President Barack Obama vowed to hunt down the culprits and 'hold them accountable'.
 

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... *sigh* ...

I don't understand how people can willingly try to harm random innocent civilians. :devil:
 

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I feel so sorry for those people :( :NO:

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But, when it comes to 'Murica's buget... Let it buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn! :p :snick:
 

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That poor wee kid! Only 8 and his life was robbed from him. So many experiences he should of had.. damn. R.I.P. My heart goes out to all the families and those injured by this.
 

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Damn you deidara! had to use your claY or pein or heck nine tails tbb! >:I

man this world is too messed up .__. its like people loving hurting others for no reasoN
 

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Yes it is tragic.

BUT what about the starving poor people, huh?

Anyways, yes it is tragic...
 

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Damn you deidara! had to use your claY or pein or heck nine tails tbb! >:I

man this world is too messed up .__. its like people loving hurting others for no reasoN

So.. why make the joke?
 

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Damn you deidara! had to use your claY or pein or heck nine tails tbb! >:I

man this world is too messed up .__. its like people loving hurting others for no reasoN

I'm sure there was some reason. Anti-government? Anti-America? Just straight up mental illness? I don't know. This world is screwed up. :eww:
 

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That poor wee kid! Only 8 and his life was robbed from him. So many experiences he should of had.. damn. R.I.P. My heart goes out to all the families and those injured by this.

I agree... Those who planned and executed the attack, must pay. No child should die, ahead of his parents... RIP Martin Richard. May the angels guard you forever
 

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Yes it is tragic.

BUT what about the starving poor people, huh?

Anyways, yes it is tragic...

( mr omar) tragic TRAGIC! yeah what about STARVING poor people who DIE EVERYDAY from the two year old and up EVEN babies
 

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It actually disgusts me that I have to breathe the same air as people willing to hurt others like this...
 

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Yes it is tragic.

BUT what about the starving poor people, huh?

Anyways, yes it is tragic...

That is tragic too, I wish there was more I could do other than donate money but the Boston bombings was evil done by fellow humans actions.
 

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Another sad day in America :/

My heart morns for the familys and friends
 

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A sad sad day indeed :(.
 

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Oh God, why did you show us his picture? It was already unbelievably sad, but now I have his image in my head, you just made it real for me. Not fair.
 
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