Kakuzu Vs. Minato

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I'm pretty sure that Kakuzu can make a single hand sign (Iron skin) before Minato gets to him.

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Rasenga-FTG blitz-Seal in a flash.

It takes time to throw a kunai and for the kunai to reach it's target even if it's just a second. Kakuzu can make the hand sign at that time.
 

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How is something like Rasengan gonna crack diamond?

If Minato can Rasengan Kakuzu he can also mark or seal him, since they are all melee skills.

If kakuzu is marked, he is dead. His armor can't resist a rasengan spam.

One, sure. But ten?
 

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If Minato can Rasengan Kakuzu he can also mark or seal him, since they are all melee skills.

If kakuzu is marked, he is dead. His armor can't resist a rasengan spam.

One, sure. But ten?

Marking him and then trying to hit him 10 times with a Rasengan wouldn't be smart. Kakuzu could predict where Minato would appear and he would counter attack. Bee was able to predict that the first time and Kakuzu is smarter than him.
 

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It takes time to throw a kunai and for the kunai to reach it's target even if it's just a second. Kakuzu can make the hand sign at that time.

Look at the last few pictures again. There was no kunai. He ported straight to obito. Hence why obito, known for phasing through all attacks, never saw it comming. But, if you think kakuzu can through up a hand seal faster than obito can instantly activate his kamui with the help of sharingan, then by all means...

Marking him and then trying to hit him 10 times with a Rasengan wouldn't be smart. Kakuzu could predict where Minato would appear and he would counter attack. Bee was able to predict that the first time and Kakuzu is smarter than him.

That's a different situation. Bee just attack the kunai that he through up. Minato can select where he wants to appear when he marks you
 

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Look at the last few pictures again. There was no kunai. He ported straight to obito. Hence why obito, known for phasing through all attacks, never saw it comming. But, if you think kakuzu can through up a hand seal faster than obito can instantly activate his kamui with the help of sharingan, then by all means...



That's a different situation. Bee just attack the kunai that he through up. Minato can select where he wants to appear when he marks you

Obito was marked.
 

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Obito was marked.

kakuzu will get marked. All he needs is to be touched. Domu doesn't stop him from being marked. Domu hardens his skin; the mark appears on skin. Kakuzu isn't even fast enough to out speed minato.
 

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kakuzu will get marked. All he needs is to be touched. Domu doesn't stop him from being marked. Domu hardens his skin; the mark appears on skin. Kakuzu isn't even fast enough to out speed minato.

I know that he will get marked, but he can tank Minato's moves when he appears next to him and attacks and considering Kakuzu's experience after a few times, Kakuzu will predict where he would appear.
 

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I know that he will get marked, but he can tank Minato's moves when he appears next to him and attacks and considering Kakuzu's experience after a few times, Kakuzu will predict where he would appear.

Predict?

Minato moves at the speed of light with FTG. Kakuzu will get rasenganed thrice before he can react once.

Even so, as said before, sealing is instant and an instant win.
 

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Predict?

Minato moves at the speed of light with FTG. Kakuzu will get rasenganed thrice before he can react once.

Even so, as said before, sealing is instant and an instant win.

Kakuzu who is smarter than Bee can't predict that, but Bee can... Kakuzu would predict that by time and Iron Skin gives him that time.
 

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Kakuzu's Main attack/defense against minato would be the earth Grundge Fear... Really He could take down his shurikans or even him with this or most likely he would be forced to spend the battle in this form since minato has shown absoultly 0 long range jutsu also location would be nice if this is in a open ranged location would add to kakuzu's advantage .. while if it was in a forest minato would have the advantage
 

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Kakuzu who is smarter than Bee can't predict that, but Bee can... Kakuzu would predict that by time and Iron Skin gives him that time.

ay wasn't marked. Nor was he the one reacting. He needed outside help. See where i'm going with this?
Kakuzu can't react to instant. 0 handseals beat 1 handseal everytime. Do you understand the concept of instant? He instantly appeared infront of obito with a kunai already in his kidney. Obito didn't even know wtf happened.

Kakuzu's Main attack/defense against minato would be the earth Grundge Fear... Really He could take down his shurikans or even him with this or most likely he would be forced to spend the battle in this form since minato has shown absoultly 0 long range jutsu also location would be nice if this is in a open ranged location would add to kakuzu's advantage .. while if it was in a forest minato would have the advantage
now that make some sense unlike that other guy talking about predicting instantaneous teleportation.
 

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ay wasn't marked. Nor was he the one reacting. He needed outside help. See where i'm going with this?
Kakuzu can't react to instant. 0 handseals beat 1 handseal everytime. Do you understand the concept of instant? He instantly appeared infront of obito with a kunai already in his kidney. Obito didn't even know wtf happened.


now that make some sense unlike that other guy talking about predicting instantaneous teleportation.
It may be instant, but it takes a second to take and throw a kunai and the kunai needs to reach his opponent. Kakuzu could make a handsign in the proccess. Obito was marked and I know that Kakuzu would get marked and yes he will be surprised the first time, but Obito lacks a strong shield (Iron Skin) which will protect Kakuzu from either being stabbed or hit with a Rasengan. After a few times, Kakuzu would know that Minato will teleport to him and counter attack just as Bee did.

Even if he takes a hit, Kakuzu still has 4 hearts left. He could trick Minato by acting dead and then get a shot at him while his guard is down just like he tricked Kakashi. I don't think that Minato would see this coming, especially since Kakashi who has a Sharingan couldn't.
 

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just pointing out, I don't think Kakuzu's lightning attack is equivalent to 2 Raikiri's, it seems that way because: 1. Kakuzu's attack includes two streams of lightnings so Kakashi had to stop it with 2 stream as well, 2. Kakashi's Raikiri is short range attack, it can not leave his hands, therefore even if Kakashi's attack were a lot stronger than Kakuzu's, they'd remain in his hand after cancelling out Kakuzu's attack, which appears to make them "equal".
also, Kakashi could be using only 2 Raikiri, jus split the lightning equally into each hand after gathering it.

btw does Minato know Odama Rasengan? I don't think the one he used on Obito was as big as Odama Rasengan.
 

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just pointing out, I don't think Kakuzu's lightning attack is equivalent to 2 Raikiri's, it seems that way because: 1. Kakuzu's attack includes two streams of lightnings so Kakashi had to stop it with 2 stream as well, 2. Kakashi's Raikiri is short range attack, it can not leave his hands, therefore even if Kakashi's attack were a lot stronger than Kakuzu's, they'd remain in his hand after cancelling out Kakuzu's attack, which appears to make them "equal".
also, Kakashi could be using only 2 Raikiri, jus split the lightning equally into each hand after gathering it.

btw does Minato know Odama Rasengan? I don't think the one he used on Obito was as big as Odama Rasengan.

Well, it did take two Raikiri to stop Kakuzu's attack, but Kakuzu is good at elemental attacks.

Minato never used Odama Rasengan until now, but I'm assuming he can use one.
 

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Minato creates a shadow clone. He then teleports back to Konoha while his clone fends off Kakuzu and brings back an ANBU squad to assist him fighting Kakuzu. Minato wins =P
 

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It may be instant, but it takes a second to take and throw a kunai and the kunai needs to reach his opponent. Kakuzu could make a handsign in the proccess. Obito was marked and I know that Kakuzu would get marked and yes he will be surprised the first time, but Obito lacks a strong shield (Iron Skin) which will protect Kakuzu from either being stabbed or hit with a Rasengan. After a few times, Kakuzu would know that Minato will teleport to him and counter attack just as Bee did.

Even if he takes a hit, Kakuzu still has 4 hearts left. He could trick Minato by acting dead and then get a shot at him while his guard is down just like he tricked Kakashi. I don't think that Minato would see this coming, especially since Kakashi who has a Sharingan couldn't.

i like how you keep trying to bring up kunai when i'm talking about instant teleportation to a marked kakuzu. There's no kunai involved :| Good try bro.
If you think iron skin is some auto defence and kakuzu can feint minato then that's up to you. Minato was able to react to a guy who appeared behind him :|
 

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i like how you keep trying to bring up kunai when i'm talking about instant teleportation to a marked kakuzu. There's no kunai involved :| Good try bro.
If you think iron skin is some auto defence and kakuzu can feint minato then that's up to you. Minato was able to react to a guy who appeared behind him :|

If minato were able to teleport to Kakuzu This would also serve as a problem especially if he had all 3/4 masks In there and like i said if he started in that form he would
 
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