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[Orochimaruofthesound]

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anyone else wonder who else disagreed with making minato 4th hokage in place of orochimaru

 

[Chibiusa]

Danzo and ROOT, maybe the elders.....

 

[Dissonant Values]

Danzou and the Elders no doubt.

 

[Kagerou]

Well, would orochimaru be able to stop the kyuubi?

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Konoha elders....no other opinion mattered

Danzo and ROOT, maybe the elders.....

but it says quite a few others so it have to be more than three

and if thats the case minato wouldnt be hokage its a democracy remember

 

[MMaElite]

Orochimaru would have stopped the kyubi IMO.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Well, would orochimaru be able to stop the kyuubi?

no doubt in my mind but

was using RDS to stop it the best way no

 

[Hell Autarch]

It's obvious he would've been able to stop the Kyuubi. In fact, if Orochimaru had been given the title of the 4th Hokage then Uchiha Obito would not have been able to infiltrate Konoha so easily.

Orochimaru > Jiraiya > Minato

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

It's obvious he would've been able to stop the Kyuubi. In fact, if Orochimaru had been given the title of the 4th Hokage then Uchiha Obito would not have been able to infiltrate Konoha so easily.

Orochimaru > Jiraiya > Minato

good point

 

[FreakensteinAG]

and if thats the case minato wouldnt be hokage its a democracy remember

If we are to accept that Minato's opposition was indeed the elders, Danzo, and ROOT, then it's certain that the number of ANBU and Jounin-level ninja outweighed the opponents of the nomination.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

If we are to accept that Minato's opposition was indeed the elders, Danzo, and ROOT, then it's certain that the number of ANBU and Jounin-level ninja outweighed the opponents of the nomination.

my point being Orochimaru was the better candidate just no one liked him

 

[Chīkara]

Orochimaru would be a way better Hokage then minato
He is stronger
hiruzen would live and he did not have to use rds to stop the kyuubi
because he would notice obito easy

 

[Arugon]

WTF is wrong with you people? Orochimaru barely fought against 4 tails Naruto and that was with only half of Kurama's chakara. Minato was far better suited to protect the village. How in the hell would Orochimaru have combatted Obito's Space Time jutsu WHILE at the same time protecting the village from multiple full scale, 100% Kurama Chakara TBB's. His most powerful defensive technique couldn't even withstand a 4 tails chakara cannon, and that was only 50% of Kurama's chakara pool.

Also at the time of the Kurama/Obito attack, Orochimaru did not have the ability to use Edo Tensei, or even his imperfect Edo Tensei that he used against Hiruzen. The only thing making Orochimaru>Minato AT THIS MOMENT is Edo Tensei.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

WTF is wrong with you people? Orochimaru barely fought against 4 tails Naruto and that was with only half of Kurama's chakara. Minato was far better suited to protect the village. How in the hell would Orochimaru have combatted Obito's Space Time jutsu WHILE at the same time protecting the village from multiple full scale, 100% Kurama Chakara TBB's. His most powerful defensive technique couldn't even withstand a 4 tails chakara cannon, and that was only 50% of Kurama's chakara pool.

Also at the time of the Kurama/Obito attack, Orochimaru did not have the ability to use Edo Tensei, or even his imperfect Edo Tensei that he used against Hiruzen. The only thing making Orochimaru>Minato AT THIS MOMENT is Edo Tensei.

Orochimaru was a candidate for the 4th hokage aswell. and Oro had always been obsessed with forbidden jutsu sense the death of his parents so. Oro was barely alive at that moment when he fought the four tailed naruto btw and still put up a hell of a fight

 

[Narutoga]

Orochimaru cares not about hokage, he was just bluffing

 

[Arugon]

Orochimaru was a candidate for the 4th hokage aswell. and Oro had always been obsessed with forbidden jutsu sense the death of his parents so. Oro was barely alive at that moment when he fought the four tailed naruto btw and still put up a hell of a fight

Him being disabled, not barely alive, doesn't change the fact that he had no justu capable of combatting full scale TBB's and Kamui. Only Minato's FTG and sealing techniques were capable of this feat. Orochimaru would not have given a damn about protecting the village, as Minato went out of his way in order to do, utilizing mass amounts of chakara. Orochimaru would have let thousand die just in an effort to defeat Kurama and Obito, and still likely have failed.

Bottom line is that he wouldn't have made it past Obito anyways, let alone even have a chance of confronting Kurama.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Him being disabled, not barely alive, doesn't change the fact that he had no justu capable of combatting full scale TBB's and Kamui. Only Minato's FTG and sealing techniques were capable of this feat. Orochimaru would not have given a damn about protecting the village, as Minato went out of his way in order to do, utilizing mass amounts of chakara. Orochimaru would have let thousand die just in an effort to defeat Kurama and Obito, and still likely have failed.

Bottom line is that he wouldn't have made it past Obito anyways, let alone even have a chance of confronting Kurama.

have you honestly forgotten that orochimaru was deathly sick in that body

 

[Arugon]

have you honestly forgotten that orochimaru was deathly sick in that body

Deathly sick is someone like Itachi who is interrupted in the middle of a fight with mouthfulls of blood spurting out of his lungs. Sure Orochimaru was not 100% because he was unable to use his arms but his sickness had not progressed to the level of Itachi's.

Also you miss my point in my other post. Even at 100%, Orochimaru had absolutely no jutsu's to combat Obito and defeat him without using massive amounts of chakra. Let alone have enough left to be able to fight Kurama after.

 

[Kintaro]

Him being disabled, not barely alive, doesn't change the fact that he had no justu capable of combatting full scale TBB's and Kamui. Only Minato's FTG and sealing techniques were capable of this feat. Orochimaru would not have given a damn about protecting the village, as Minato went out of his way in order to do, utilizing mass amounts of chakara. Orochimaru would have let thousand die just in an effort to defeat Kurama and Obito, and still likely have failed.

Bottom line is that he wouldn't have made it past Obito anyways, let alone even have a chance of confronting Kurama.

Totally agree with you. Even if Oro had his arms at the time. what could he do? His Rashomon was barely able to guard up against 50% 4 tailed kyuubi. Would orochimaru been able to transport or defend against Kurama's full tail beast bomb? If he could please tell me with what jutsu? Again.thats just Kurama..Lets not forget about fighting Obito as well.OH and Obito knew Minato's jutsu as well being a former subordinate..and Minato still got him..

 

[Hell Autarch]

So what exactly did Minato do that makes you all think that Minato was stronger than Orochimaru. All Minato did was seal half of Kyuubi's chakra inside of him using Reaper Death Seal and seal the other half into Naruto. That doesn't prove how Minato is superior towards Orochimaru.

Also, not all of Orochimaru's techniques have been shown.
During his battle with Hiruzen, he did not perform all of his techniques. After using Edo Tensei, he simply watched as Hashirama and Tobirama fought against Hiruzen.
During his battle against Tsunade and Jiraiya he was unable to use his hands thanks to Hiruzen *Sarcasm*
During his battle against Naruto he was unable to use his hands and it was nearly time for him to find a new host.
During his battle with Sasuke he was so sick he could barely move. He could only use his "Living Corpse Reincarnation" which in no way is a technique used for fighting.
During his battle with Itachi he did not have much knowledge about Itachi's Susanoo and was stabbed by the Totsuka sword and sealed in it.
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At the time when Minato fought against Tobi, Tobi wasn't even half as strong as he is now and yet Minato had difficulty in defeating him. Nevertheless saying that "Minato had to fight against Kyuubi and Tobi" is wrong. Why?

1) Besides, Minato there were other shinobi as well who were fighting against the Kyuubi (Including Hiruzen) so Minato was not alone.
2) Tobi was so weak that I can't even say that he was a problem for Minato .