**** tobimara is stronger than minato

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Wait....When was it ever said Minato was stronger than the 2nd? haha delusions of these people.

Minato isn't stronger than oro, that's common sense...Oro has knowledge, and basically everything else to make it in the top list of ninja. Oro has the wider range of abilities, not to mention he is IMPOSSIBLE to kill.

ok lets not get ahead of ourselves. orochimaru can be killed and can be defeated and also didint jiraiya tell naruto a ninja's strength isnt determined by the amount of jutsu he wields. minato>>>>>>>orochimaru
 

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minato is stronger than both obito and orochimaru.
obito was brutally defeated b4 so you ppl need to just stop ranking obito above minato and
orochimaru is weaker than jiraiya who is weaker than minato so this is also a clear win.

Explain to me how you get that Minato is stronger than Obito (you know, the guy handing out ass beatings)

A>B>C logic is stupid and is NEVER reliable. I would REALLY like for you t explain how Jiraiya beats Orochimaru.

ok lets not get ahead of ourselves. orochimaru can be killed and can be defeated and also didint jiraiya tell naruto a ninja's strength isnt determined by the amount of jutsu he wields. minato>>>>>>>orochimaru

He can? Because it sure hasn't happened yet. I really can't think of a battle he has lost, or died from.

Minato is smart, sure, but not a tank. He couldn't go through the things Orochimaru has.

Feel free to explain your logic, because you have really failed to do so so far.
 

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Already canon that Orochimaru would be a better Hokage than Minato... if it weren't for that rapist personally that is.
 

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Explain to me how you get that Minato is stronger than Obito (you know, the guy handing out ass beatings)

A>B>C logic is stupid and is NEVER reliable. I would REALLY like for you t explain how Jiraiya beats Orochimaru.



He can? Because it sure hasn't happened yet. I really can't think of a battle he has lost, or died from.

Minato is smart, sure, but not a tank. He couldn't go through the things Orochimaru has.

Feel free to explain your logic, because you have really failed to do so so far.

ok so lets address the obito situation. What ass beatings? If you are talking those fodder characters then thats not really helping you there. the only real feat displayed was when he defeated konan and thats just about it. His continous use of third party fighting only goes to show how much of a coward and weakling he is because in the midst of battle when facing an opponent face-to-face, his mask was shaterred and he was losing. thank god for the real madara's intervention and the partial completion of the ten tail, this way he can go back to being a coward and fighting using a third party again while being safe from damage. obito has yet to show any ability worthy enough to challenge minato and his kamui was basically useless against minato.And also he defeated him before and obito ran away so why are discussing this.its obvious minato wins

as it relates to orochimaru, hiruzen basically owned him and had him running. even orochimaru said that if hiruzen was even 10 years younger he would have succesfully pulled out his soul.which means 10 years before the chuunin exams (when naruto was about 2) hiruzen was stronger than orochimaru evidenced by the fact he let him free 10 years when hiruzen found out about his research rather than kill him which anko stated hiruzen was capable of. 12 years before the chuunin exams minato was the hokage and at that time he was stronger than hiruzen evidenced by the fact that hiruzen gave up position realising a more youthful generation lead konoha to its future and hiruzen even resumed position as active hokage because he said (except jiraiya) there was no other ninja in konoha that had surpassed him.
minato 12 years b4 chuunin exams>hiruzen 10years b4 chuunin exam>orochimaru
 

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ok so lets address the obito situation. What ass beatings? If you are talking those fodder characters then thats not really helping you there. the only real feat displayed was when he defeated konan and thats just about it. His continous use of third party fighting only goes to show how much of a coward and weakling he is because in the midst of battle when facing an opponent face-to-face, his mask was shaterred and he was losing. thank god for the real madara's intervention and the partial completion of the ten tail, this way he can go back to being a coward and fighting using a third party again while being safe from damage. obito has yet to show any ability worthy enough to challenge minato and his kamui was basically useless against minato.And also he defeated him before and obito ran away so why are discussing this.its obvious minato wins

as it relates to orochimaru, hiruzen basically owned him and had him running. even orochimaru said that if hiruzen was even 10 years younger he would have succesfully pulled out his soul.which means 10 years before the chuunin exams (when naruto was about 2) hiruzen was stronger than orochimaru evidenced by the fact he let him free 10 years when hiruzen found out about his research rather than kill him which anko stated hiruzen was capable of. 12 years before the chuunin exams minato was the hokage and at that time he was stronger than hiruzen evidenced by the fact that hiruzen gave up position realising a more youthful generation lead konoha to its future and hiruzen even resumed position as active hokage because he said (except jiraiya) there was no other ninja in konoha that had surpassed him.
minato 12 years b4 chuunin exams>hiruzen 10years b4 chuunin exam>orochimaru

And tell me, why is it that he can do something no one else can, and just stand there while others tire them self out trying to hit him? I'd say Naruto, in his modes, kakashi, and guy against him and not getting very far is saying he can take some hits and quite skilled. The ONLY advantage Minato would have would be FTG. Not that Minato is very skilled at taijutsu anyway. Hell, kid Kakashi was holding his own. haha I'll give you credit on a lot of that, considering how off topic you get. We have not really seen much of either of them, so a real winner is not something that could be obtained. Although, Obito has a huge chakra reserve, Wood release, replaceable limbs, healing feats, and really to top that off, sharingan and Rinnegan. He didn't have the Rinnegan when he fought Minato....No way Minato could get close with Rinnegan now. :/


That second paragraph was honestly so idiotically off topic I'm not even going to bother.
NONE of that explained how Minato could beat Orochimaru..Really, are you stupid or just not getting the concept?

Relying on A>B>C again...you should really just stop. It's pathetic. HAHA
 

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THE FEATLESS WONDER STRONGER THAN MINATO? lol take your hype elsewhere. No kage is afraid of a flimsy water dragon.
 

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ok so lets address the obito situation. What ass beatings? If you are talking those fodder characters then thats not really helping you there. the only real feat displayed was when he defeated konan and thats just about it. His continous use of third party fighting only goes to show how much of a coward and weakling he is because in the midst of battle when facing an opponent face-to-face, his mask was shaterred and he was losing. thank god for the real madara's intervention and the partial completion of the ten tail, this way he can go back to being a coward and fighting using a third party again while being safe from damage. obito has yet to show any ability worthy enough to challenge minato and his kamui was basically useless against minato.And also he defeated him before and obito ran away so why are discussing this.its obvious minato wins

as it relates to orochimaru, hiruzen basically owned him and had him running. even orochimaru said that if hiruzen was even 10 years younger he would have succesfully pulled out his soul.which means 10 years before the chuunin exams (when naruto was about 2) hiruzen was stronger than orochimaru evidenced by the fact he let him free 10 years when hiruzen found out about his research rather than kill him which anko stated hiruzen was capable of. 12 years before the chuunin exams minato was the hokage and at that time he was stronger than hiruzen evidenced by the fact that hiruzen gave up position realising a more youthful generation lead konoha to its future and hiruzen even resumed position as active hokage because he said (except jiraiya) there was no other ninja in konoha that had surpassed him.
minato 12 years b4 chuunin exams>hiruzen 10years b4 chuunin exam>orochimaru
well done sir, because of he's speed i honestly dont think that many people could defeat minato and even fewer if they lack a s/t jutsu, while minato wouldnt simply kill oro without any trouble i think after a long fight oro would lose, he can only regenerate so much. as for tobirama>minato who knows? we havnt really seen what tobi is capable of but we do know minato is a boss.
 

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And tell me, why is it that he can do something no one else can, and just stand there while others tire them self out trying to hit him? I'd say Naruto, in his modes, kakashi, and guy against him and not getting very far is saying he can take some hits and quite skilled. The ONLY advantage Minato would have would be FTG. Not that Minato is very skilled at taijutsu anyway. Hell, kid Kakashi was holding his own. haha I'll give you credit on a lot of that, considering how off topic you get. We have not really seen much of either of them, so a real winner is not something that could be obtained. Although, Obito has a huge chakra reserve, Wood release, replaceable limbs, healing feats, and really to top that off, sharingan and Rinnegan. He didn't have the Rinnegan when he fought Minato....No way Minato could get close with Rinnegan now. :/


That second paragraph was honestly so idiotically off topic I'm not even going to bother.
NONE of that explained how Minato could beat Orochimaru..Really, are you stupid or just not getting the concept?

Relying on A>B>C again...you should really just stop. It's pathetic. HAHA

when you can give a plausible and universally accepted answer on the reason why it cannot be accepted to use a>b>c concept then you can come to me with your orochimaru stronger than minato. meanwhile you can keep your insults to yourself. i neither have the time or patience to have a non-sensical argument with someone who is incapable of having an intellectual conversation without bashing the party in the conversation. neither of those traits shows that you are able to reason sensibly or without having your emotions run a mock.calm down and reason with a level of calmness rather than your being emotional attached to your to your hopeful and faithful claim. reason with sense. this is reality not dream world.
 
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