EMS Sasuke vs Tsunade, 4th Kazekage and Mei

[shelke]

The lava had no time to burn. It doesnt produce much for to break anything, it melts. The fact that it slid off and sasuke was hit in the room means nothing.

Sasuke doesn't have the arsenal of attacks madara has; yet the kages survived through it until he was ready to kill him. Madara split tsunade in half, with mokuton, to defeat her. Sasuke doesn't have mokuton or a rinnegan. Entons are blocked by gold.

Sasuke can't win

What is the difference between this:

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and this:

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? See Mei throwing the lava over the entirety of the area above Sasuke? All that lava lands right on top of him:

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and he takes on Chojiro's attack right after it, and is mostly undamaged:

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. And you are telling me, it didn't have 'time' to burn?

In both the cases, the lava is sliding down like a sludge. A common manner in which lava behaves. Not only that, it's a full attack that slid from top to bottom. How are you suggesting it didn't have any time to burn, considering lava's slow movement and temperature?

I really don't see what's your point here in regards to Madara fight, as other than PS, all forms appear to provide the same defense. The manga doesn't create a distinction, hence you can't do so just because you want to. Only PS is the ultimate superior version, other than that all Susano'o forms are equal in terms of defense, whether it's Itachi's or Sasuke's, or Madara's.

And what? The gold starts to melt? Or a direct focused Amaterasu would spread through his gold? It will get wighed down and become even more sluggish, as I hardly doubt even you are lopsided enough to somehow venture that gold is faster than enton arrows or amaterasu. Even the thought is borderline preposterous.

Also your point about that Mist attack is not a sure shot factor:

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. I don't see Madara commenting on anything in regards to his vision, and Kabuto is worried about Rinnegan.

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

Sasuke takes it

 

[AGoodBoy]

What is the difference between this:

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and this:

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? See Mei throwing the lava over the entirety of the area above Sasuke? All that lava lands right on top of him:

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and he takes on Chojiro's attack right after it, and is mostly undamaged:

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. And you are telling me, it didn't have 'time' to burn?

In both the cases, the lava is sliding down like a sludge. A common manner in which lava behaves. Not only that, it's a full attack that slid from top to bottom. How are you suggesting it didn't have any time to burn, considering lava's slow movement and temperature?

I really don't see what's your point here in regards to Madara fight, as other than PS, all forms appear to provide the same defense. The manga doesn't create a distinction, hence you can't do so just because you want to. Only PS is the ultimate superior version, other than that all Susano'o forms are equal in terms of defense, whether it's Itachi's or Sasuke's, or Madara's.

And what? The gold starts to melt? Or a direct focused Amaterasu would spread through his gold? It will get wighed down and become even more sluggish, as I hardly doubt even you are lopsided enough to somehow venture that gold is faster than enton arrows or amaterasu. Even the thought is borderline preposterous.

Also your point about that Mist attack is not a sure shot factor:

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. I don't see Madara commenting on anything in regards to his vision, and Kabuto is worried about Rinnegan.

You answered your own questions :| In the scan of madara, if you go back, you'd notice that madara was covered in lava and left to sit for a while.
In your scans of sasuke, you'd notice that he was hit with the lava and then choujori immediately came in. It didn't even get time to start burning through susano'o's defences. susano'o isn't paper, it obviously won't burn through immediately :|

Well that's a bit shocking that you can't see the point.. Let me give you a hint. Mokuton forest, 25 susano'o clones and rinnegan techs. That seems about everything sasuke doesn't have. :|

Sorry I meant enton magatama's are blocked by the gold. that's my bad there XD The arrows and amaterasu are a different matter.

Notice that they were trying to cloud the rinnegan's field of vision. The mist wasn't that thick. Just thick to a certain degree. What i'm talking about is thick mist (like back with zabuza), where no one is able to see. Effectively, it becomes a game of battle ship, except one side is carpet bombing while the other is playing with a sniper rifle.
And just to give you some ammunition for your rebutal;
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XD XD

 

[shelke]

^ I did see the scans. When Choijiro attacks, the lava has already settled there and was starting to slide down. How can you suggest that her lava attack would even effect CS covered in Kagatsuchi when this form barely grazed it?

And how do those things add to his Doujutsus, Other than the clones? Absolutely nothing.

Even if Magatamas are ineffective, which I highly doubt as all Zetsus were reduced to ash with it, a focused Amaterasu and enton arrow would do the job. It still doesn't matter. How can you suggest Mei can produce a thicker mist? Or how can you be sure that Sharinagn, capable of giving colour to objects behind solid hindrances - pillar and ground - would fail before mist, which is just condensed liquid?

 

[DoubleAgentItachi]

Probably the Kages.

 

[TheEvilOne]

What is with the poll? Come on guys, this is a SASUKE vs a TSUNADE and MEI fight... This shouldn't be debatable... Sasuke owns them.

 

[nakumaru]

What is with the poll? Come on guys, this is a SASUKE vs a TSUNADE and MEI fight... This shouldn't be debatable... Sasuke owns them.

The only reason it's debateable is because of the Kazekage.

 

[TheEvilOne]

The only reason it's debateable is because of the Kazekage.

Who was oneshotted by Orochimaru ( who is a Tsunade caliber ninja ) Orochimaru > Tsunade > 4th Kazekage > Mei <<< Sasuke

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Who was oneshotted by Orochimaru ( who is a Tsunade caliber ninja ) Orochimaru > Tsunade > 4th Kazekage > Mei <<< Sasuke

No signs of a one shot. As many have said, it's most likely he was assassinated by Orochimaru. There's no evidence tha they fought. (Oro poops on Sundae anyway.)

And in all honesty, I went over a Tsunade vs 4th Kazekage matchup in my head and I see the Fourth Kazekage being the likely victor.

And by feats and Match-up, the Kazekage makes this fight Debateable, he can defend from MS attacks.

 

[nakumaru]

Who was oneshotted by Orochimaru ( who is a Tsunade caliber ninja ) Orochimaru > Tsunade > 4th Kazekage > Mei <<< Sasuke

There wasn't a fight. He was assassinated.

Try using some feats instead of some bull that we didn't even see happen and wasn't even a fight.

 

[Edo Odin]

Neither Mei nor Tsunade have any counter to the Amaterasu. The Kazekage doesn't use Sand, he uses Gold (Which is heavier, and therefore slower), not to mention the fact that it's not automatic, so whether he'll even manage to protect himself is debatable. At the least, he won't be able to protect his two teammates.

After losing the two Konoichi, the Fourth Kazakage won't have much to take on Sasuke. The Gold attacks haven't been shown to be on a large enough scale to take on the Susanoo, and since he's facing the Amaterasu, the Kazekage will be on the defensive side.

Ultimately I'd give it to Sasuke, mid-high diff.

 

[genii96]

Neither Mei nor Tsunade have any counter to the Amaterasu. The Kazekage doesn't use Sand, he uses Gold (Which is heavier, and therefore slower), not to mention the fact that it's not automatic, so whether he'll even manage to protect himself is debatable. At the least, he won't be able to protect his two teammates.

After losing the two Konoichi, the Fourth Kazakage won't have much to take on Sasuke. The Gold attacks haven't been shown to be on a large enough scale to take on the Susanoo, and since he's facing the Amaterasu, the Kazekage will be on the defensive side.

Ultimately I'd give it to Sasuke, mid-high diff.

first of all,weight of the metal dosent matter to a magnet user. He is a magnet,and in their clash,his goldspeed was equal to gaara.
What are you saying?,he overpowered a sand tsunami from gaara and had attacks big enough to upturn a bijuu.
The 2 kunoichi are safe if they stay behind him,while he erects a gold sphere

 

[Optimistic]

Enton arrows gg.Sasuke can fire 2 at once so Mei and Tsunade will die.The fodder Kazekage cannot block something with such piercing power and the flames was able to counter Gaara's sand before so countering the 4th's will be nothing.

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enton counters sand and arrows kill all of them.GG

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Who was oneshotted by Orochimaru ( who is a Tsunade caliber ninja ) Orochimaru > Tsunade > 4th Kazekage > Mei <<< Sasuke

it was a filler
there's no proof that Oro solo'd him

 

[genii96]

Enton arrows gg.Sasuke can fire 2 at once so Mei and Tsunade will die.The fodder Kazekage cannot block something with such piercing power and the flames was able to counter Gaara's sand before so countering the 4th's will be nothing.

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enton counters sand and arrows kill all of them.GG

such piercing power?,you mean the same that got stuck in a pillar?,yea,thats super piercing power:|.
Enton was blocked by gaara's sand,thrice. And gold is of a heavier composition than sand anyway.
That fodder kazekage can summon enough gold dust to bury sasuke and his susanoo in one move.

 

[Optimistic]

such piercing power?,you mean the same that got stuck in a pillar?,yea,thats super piercing power:|.

Still fast enough to hit the Kazekage before he can even react.The arrow is literally bigger than a human so one hit will kill them enton or not.

Enton was blocked by gaara's sand,thrice.

Sasuke blocked Gaara's sand not the over way around either way the flames made Gaara's sand useless since it became all droopy.

And gold is of a heavier composition than sand anyway.

Thus making Gold sand slower than normal sand making amaterasu or arrows sure to hit.

That fodder kazekage can summon enough gold dust to bury sasuke and his susanoo in one move.

He can do that before amaterasu or arrows hit him? Sure why not.You said yourself that gold sand is heavy which proves how slow it is compared to normal sand.Normal sand cannot react to any of Sasuke's arrows or amaterasu.

 

[Sabaku No Gaara100]

I will have to give this to Sasuke with mid-high diff

 

[genii96]

Still fast enough to hit the Kazekage before he can even react.The arrow is literally bigger than a human so one hit will kill them enton or not.

Sasuke blocked Gaara's sand not the over way around either way the flames made Gaara's sand useless since it became all droopy.

Thus making Gold sand slower than normal sand making amaterasu or arrows sure to hit.

He can do that before amaterasu or arrows hit him? Sure why not.You said yourself that gold sand is heavy which proves how slow it is compared to normal sand.Normal sand cannot react to any of Sasuke's arrows or amaterasu.

4th kazekage uses magnet release,he dosent just control gold dudts like gaara does. Manga already shows him equallling gaara's gourd sand speed with his own,

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so that point on it's weight is invalid,he magnetizes it,it's different from just cntrollig it.
Enton didnt affect gaara's sand at all,the only reason gaara didnt attack with the flaming sand is because sasuke also attacked his siblings,the scan before the one you showed,shows gaara catching an enton attack with his sand.
You dont seem to get the amount of gold dust that will bon the battlefield the second the fight starts,he doent need any time at all,he just does it.
Also sasuke carries around a sword,as well as several shurikens dosent he?,what are they made of?,he can just magnetize them and have them attack sasuke while the latter is in his susanoo.
He dosent need handsigns to control his gold,and he can simply make his gold sphere during the time sasuke defends himself from his gold dust wave,no way is sasuke activating his susanoo and firing an arrow before the kazekage put his hand on the ground. If sasuke's susanoo is still standing,he would have already formed a gold wall beyween him and sasuke,thus cutting off any vision sasuke has,while using his gold eye to attack him,also mei's mist would blind sasuke,thus making it very easy to kill him.
Gaara's normal sand reacted to a nuke the second it exploded,and joki boy's exposion,his gourd sand is a lot faster than his normal sad,and 4th kazekage's gold equaled his gourd sand speed. Reacting to an arrow especially since he requires no handseals,wont be difficult.
Ofcourse sasuke would have to deal with all the shurikens and his sword that he carries attcking him via magnet release,so it's not like he would actually be able to fully aim at them.

 

[slimreaper]

He gets spanked. Sasuke's arsenal isn't meant for multiple opponent battling, it's meant for 1v1.

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