[Amateurish Theory] Minato's base speed.

[pateuvasiliu]

We all know Minato is fast, but most underestimate his base speed, basing all of his speed feats on FTG.

Well, I disagree. Minato has been shown to defeat the jounin sent after Kushina which does suggest a certain speed. What attracted my attention was 3 scans in which Minato saves Naruto from Tobi.

For convenience, I took the liberty of ''measuring'' the segments Minato travels with a shunshin.

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In the first scan, we see that the distance between Minato and Tobi is respectable, enough for Tobi to assume Minato isn't going to reach him. I'd rate it at around 10-20 meters. The room seems fairly large, after all.

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In the second scan we see Tobi throw baby Naruto into the air, though the distance is fairly small.

Now, here is where physics intervene. I'm not experienced with physics, but I know some basics.

The speed at which a body is usually attracted by the earth is g = 9.8 meters per second. Weight usually increases this speed.

Now, Naruto was thrown at around 1 meter into the air.

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We can see that not only did Minato travel this distance within the blink of an eye, Tobi did not have the time to stap Naruto ( don't ask me how he put the tags on, it boggles me how he didn't have time to stab Naruto but had the time to place tags ).

Now, Naruto was thrown at roughly 1 meter and was falling at 10 meters per second. Seeing as how he did not get hit by Tobi's kunai, that means that he didn't spend 0.1 seconds in the air.

That means that in 0.1 seconds, Minato traveled roughly 15-25 meters ( since he hit the wall, too ).

Assuming he went at 15 meters / 0.1 seconds, that means 150 meters / second or 540 kms / hour at the minimum, with 25 meters / 0.1 seconds, meaning 250 m/s or 900 kms / second at the max.

For a ninja in base form, that speed is rather impressive. If anyone has knowledge of how fast Naruto and Ay travel at in KCM/Raiton Shroud and can post it here I'd be grateful.

 

[YellowFang]

Agreed.... Minato's base speed is hinted in Naruto's KM and BM speed blitzs...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

His speed is subsonic, which is around 970 km/h.

I saw someone say Naruto is hypersonic, but I need proof for that.

 

[November]

are you dr. proof ?
because he always use real life science to make the theory in naruto.

 

[Draphsin]

I came into this thread thinking you were gonna say that minato's speed feat isnt impressive

We all know he's extremely fast, even in base

 

[Kyuuchiuga]

If Kakashi mistook KM Naruto for Minato, I'd say THAT speed is comparable to Minato's base speed.

 

[NeverEnding]

His based speed is fastest in narutoverse!

 

[sayyan]

I dont understand....minato cud hav solved the problem if he had used a shadow clone to save kushina and naruto together...he was a genious i think

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I dont understand....minato cud hav solved the problem if he had used a shadow clone to save kushina and naruto together...he was a genious i think

Minato hasn't shown Kage Bunshin.

If he did beating Tobi and saving Kushina would have been no diff.

 

[Creedo]

Well I like your effort and agree that Minato's base speed is very impressive but underestimated.

But, I have to disagree tiwh one thing. Acceleration: "g" is not equal to 9.8 m/s but 9,8 m/s^2 (square seconds)

 

[YellowFang]

His speed is subsonic, which is around 970 km/h.

I saw someone say Naruto is hypersonic, but I need proof for that.

I think A's speed can safely be asumed to be lightning fast at max... KM Naruto dodges it that means faster than lightning...
And KM's speed was referred to not as perfect as 4th...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

lightning fast at max.

If A reached that speed he would decompose.

 

[Bogard]

I believe Minato's reflexes are on a level on their own. Not even Naruto has shown such control in his reflexes speed. I will just copy paste my post concerning it

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Look carefully at these pics. You will notice on the first pic at the red part i draw, that after catching Naruto almost crushed by Obito mid air with Shunshun blitz, explosiv tags were already about to explode. But Minato not only managed to remove the explosiv tag really quickly while it was exploding, but

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, threw the explosiv tags in the shack and got out of it all that before it even exploded.

So while the explosiv tags were about to explode, he did 4moves(removing the tag, teleporting in the shack, throwing the tags, and going out of the shack) before it actually blew up

Kyubi almost crushing Kushina:

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Again, look at this pic. Minato is not even there at that moment, and Kyubi is almost crushing Kushina with his large hands, so there was practically no way for Kushina to avoid it, but here

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notice that Minato not only managed to teleport near Kushina in an instant, but also took her and avoided Kyubis large hands before Kyubis hand(that was already near crushing her) even manage to land a hit on her

Here again, he did 3moves in an instant(teleporting near Kushina, holding her and avoid Kyubis large hand)

During the "fight" against Obito, Obito was attacking him from behind in a surprise attack, and was about to warp him with Kamui like you can see on this pic:

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But Minato not even knowing what was happening at that moment, managed to get out of it in an instant very quickly

On this pic:

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You can see the chain are almost restraining him, but in an instant he disappeared and appeared on another location(notice the great question mark on Obito)

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Against Kyubis TBB:

TBB is something that Kyubi can launch really quickly like he already even did

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, but on this pic:

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Look where Minato was when Kyubi was about to launch another TBB(he was outside the village far from Kyubi), but in an instant, he not only manage to reach him, but also summon Gamabunta on him with food cart destroyer to immobilise him some times, and as if it was not finished, after that on these pics:

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notice on the first pic that the TBB was already about to explode(which even exploded on the second pic), but on the third one, Minato had enough time not only to teleport where Kushina and Naruto were, but also took and save them from the explosion and get somewhere else

So while Kyubi was launching his TBB, and eventhough he was far from him from the start, he did 5 or 6moves(reaching him with quick Shunshin blitz, summon Gamabunta with Food Cart destroyer, teleport himself with the Kyubi where Kushina and Naruto were, take and save them from the explosion by going somewhere else)

What made Minato dangerous is his combo reflexes, body speed and FTG, which made him practically untouchable and it's what people usually fail to realise. How can you touch someone who can do 3 or 4moves in an instant? It's the reason behind his nickname. He had one of the best Shunshin ever, the greatest reflexes ever, and even his body speed was just on another level

That's why i believe that Minatos reflexes are on a level on their own. No one(Naruto included) has shown such haxx reflexes in NV, no one has shown to be able to do all what Minato can do in an instant

 

[sayyan]

I believe kishi havent even thought about the magnitudes of their speed....he just meant minato is fast...just relax nd enjoy the story without using mathematics

 

[pateuvasiliu]

I don't think anyone is debating Minato's reflexes, which are easily the best, far outranking even Sharingan users.

It was a matter of base movement speed, really.

just relax nd enjoy the story without using mathematics

It's physics.

 

[OnPoint]

Just to let you know, you've mixed up speed and acceleration.

 

[Metronomy]

Killer bee and itachi have used shunshin at greater distances.

 

[sayyan]

I don't think anyone is debating Minato's reflexes, which are easily the best, far outranking even Sharingan users.

It was a matter of base movement speed, really.



It's physics.

hmmm... O.O

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Killer bee and itachi have used shunshin at greater distances.

It's not a matter of distance but time.

He crossed 25 meters in 0.1 seconds.

 

[YellowFang]

Lightning is the speed of light. ( lightning speed is around 180 miles /s ) If A reached that speed he would decompose.

Light is faster than Lightning... around 10 times, I know coz I know Physics...
A moved at lightning speed unscathed... when they were teleported to the battle-field...

And in NV, it's possible when Itachi can react to natural lightning bolt....