Neji is the only K11 ninja that can beat Zabuza (Naruto is excluded)

[ShaneEyyy]

Shoji butterfly could easily blow the mist away with his wings

Already countered in thread.

What about kiba??? He could sniff out zabuza?? He might stand a chance

Kiba needs Zabuza's scent, he is able to smell out his enemy when Akamaru uses Dynamic Marking and pisses on their target haha. Anyways, Akamaru can't do so because he cant see Zabuza, thus not able to aim at him and place a scent on him. He also has no counter to Zabuza's Suiton and Zabuza is superior with Kenjutsu and strength.

*walks away from thread* Lee would find a way. He has to v_v Otherwise, it's push ups for a week. And I hate push ups -_-

I'm saying Lee wouldn't find a way because he doesn't have much intelligence. He is still an awesome character who has the power to defeat the likes of high jounin, it just sucks he isn't more well rounded with Ninjutsu(sensing abilities) and Genjutsu.

Hahahaha

 

[Codawg]

I'm saying Lee wouldn't find a way because he doesn't have much intelligence. He is still an awesome character who has the power to defeat the likes of high jounin, it just sucks he isn't more well rounded with Ninjutsu(sensing abilities) and Genjutsu.

Hahahaha

:T_T: He has to...otherwise...the push ups @_@ Idk though, anything can happen in Naruto anymore xd

 

[GiantShuriken]

Kiba and Akamaru go into their two headed wolf form and gatsuuga the whole ****ing mist and rips Zabuza in half and eats him. Choji goes into BM and Meat tanks all over the place inside the mist and squashes Zabuza. Hinata uses Byakugan, finds Zabuza and air palms his heart straight out of his chest and steps on it. Sai fills the whole mist with ink dogs that eventually find and kill Zabuza. Lee would dodge the blade at the last moment like Kakashi did a few times and then he would kick Zabuza in the chin and lotus him into the ground which snaps his neck instantly. Sakura punches the floor and Zabuza falls into a hole and dies. Shino's bugs find Zabuza and eat him.

Zabuza only beats Ino and Tenten for sure. The rest beat him or give him a rough matchup.

 

[Kages]

Hmm well explained

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Zabuza has no counter to this:

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That is a bug substitution is it not? Shino will not have time to react that fast and activate it. Kakashi had a hard time reacting and he has Sharingan. Shino beating Zabuza is a joke.

Zabuza is very strong but the problem is he cant be seen as ultra strong after getting butt****ed by team kakashi i think this is kishi's mistake for wasting a guy like this in first mission

I know, that's why he is underrated. I have to deal with it though and change peoples' minds haha.

Lee has the power of youth! In the Three-Tails anime-only arc, Lee found his way by using his other senses.

No mention for Hinata?

Countered in thread

Kiba and Akamaru go into their two headed wolf form and gatsuuga the whole ****ing mist and rips Zabuza in half and eats him. Choji goes into BM and Meat tanks all over the place inside the mist and squashes Zabuza. Hinata uses Byakugan, finds Zabuza and air palms his heart straight out of his chest and steps on it. Sai fills the whole mist with ink dogs that eventually find and kill Zabuza. Lee would dodge the blade at the last moment like Kakashi did a few times and then he would kick Zabuza in the chin and lotus him into the ground which snaps his neck instantly. Sakura punches the floor and Zabuza falls into a hole and dies. Shino's bugs find Zabuza and eat him.

Zabuza only beats Ino and Tenten for sure. The rest beat him or give him a rough matchup.

Once I read you say Sakura could win....and how you mentioned Sai when he isn't even a K11 member.....I lost my respect for you.

 

[UchihaInza]

i think so also if neji could even win that is ..Uchiha Inza

 

[the dark king]

yeah your right only neji can take him. nice post

 

[SenninUchiha]

Guess what Zab is still not High-Tier level shinobi, and he would get beat by Choji for sure due to his Super Expansion justu and would just demolish the area, I'm sure Zabuza's chakra level is not that high and cant make enough clones to hurt Choji before he hits him with his Butterfly Bullet Bombing, Lee would be able to react quick enough to Silent Killing, lee's base speed is higher then zabuza's and once lee sees that Zabuza is that quick, he will use Gates and zabuza would try and attack again, then lee would merk him, rest is pretty debatable considering Zabuza can just Silent Killing them and they wouldn't know what to do with themselves

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Excluding Naruto for obvious reasons, Neji is the only one able to beat Zabuza from the K11 due to his Byakugan making his mist useless.

At the same time or one on one?

I will explain other ninja in K11 that I know will be put up to debate:

Zabuza>Lee. Lee uses Gates as a last resort and he isn't intelligent, at all. You think once Zabuza puts up the Mist, Lee is going to know exactly what's going on and immediately go to Gates? Also, you think Zabuza is going to stand around even if he does? Silent Killing was said to be so fast that you would pass through this life time without even knowing what happened, Lee doesn't stand a chance. If you think Lee would immediately go to Gates, then why didn't he when he actually was battling against Zabuza during this war?

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It's because Zabuza could strike at any given time, if he took the chance by starting up the Gates which was shown to take quite some time and let down his guard, he'd die in a heart beat. Just because Lee has the technique to beat Zabuza doesn't mean he starts in that state and could beat him the first second their battle starts. Do you see Itachi always starting with Susanoo or Jiraiya starting with Sage Mode? No.

Lee actually is smart, and it takes time for zabuza to put up the mist. Lee could stop him since he was able to react to edo haku while haku was using his mirrors. Lee was in base when he did this so qcq against zabuza should be childsplay. If zabuza does uses his 40 handseals water techs lee can use gates which has been shown to repel water.

Zabuza>Chouji. We have seen Chouji spaz out and cry like a baby plenty of times. If Zabuza put's up the Mist, Chouji is going to panic the **** out. Why do you think Silent Killing was so feared? Say Chouji remains calm (low chance but possible now). If Chouji does grow to that huge state, he still can't see Zabuza. When he uses Expansion Jutsu, it's chakra that increases the mass of his body to such largeness and power. If Zabuza makes a lot of Water Clones and begins to constantly impale his huge sword into Choji, it will disrupt the flow of his added on chakra and he will revert back to his regular size, then it's all over.

Zabuza could also his Giant Vortex Jutsu,

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That huge Suiton would more than likely knock Chouji down, or at least stumble him to cause him to fall.

Chouji isn't even going to have the time to go to his Butterfly State. Again, Silent Killing is very fast and Chouji just isn't going to keep up with Zabuza, his speed doesn't compare.

Zabuza killing people in the mist is fast. Zabuza putting up the mist isn't. Besides Choji can use calorie control and blow the mist away with his chakra wings. After that butterfly bullet bombing. None of zabuza's techs are on choji's scale anyways.

Zabuza>Shikamaru. Shikamaru can't defeat him either. Intelligence doesn't give you a guaranteed win, if it did then why wasn't he able to beat Hidan and Tayuya the first time he fought Hidan and Tayuya? The Hidden Mist Jutsu will blind him thus not allow him to analyze nearly as well as he would be able too. Shikamaru doesn't have the speed to keep up with Zabuza nor the Sharingan to read his Water Clones, something Kakashi couldn't even pull off. Zabuza beats Shikamaru in Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, speed, strength, chakra, and stamina. Shika is screwed against him.

Not completely true but shikaru most likely won't win.

Zabuza>Hinata. I know she can see through the Mist as well, but mist isn't all Zabuza has. Unlike Neji, she can't use Rotation to counter Zabuza's Suiton nor has Eight Trigrams 64 palms to shut down Zabuza's chakra points completely rendering his Ninjutsu.

Also, her Taijutsu skill is 3.5/5 in DB, Zabuza's is 4.5/5 plus he has Kubikiribochi. She wont be able to get close enough to fully use her Gentle Fist. Zabuza also greatly beats her out in speed, strength, and stamina.

And how does zabuza dodge airpalm? He can't see it coming, can't block it, knocks you over when it hits, and it targets vitals.

Zabuza>Kiba. Kiba needs Zabuza's scent, he is able to smell out his enemy when Akamaru uses Dynamic Marking and pisses on their target haha. Anyways, Akamaru can't do so because he cant see Zabuza, thus not able to aim at him and place a scent on him. Lets even say he can sense Zabuza....he still has no counter to Zabuza's Suiton and Zabuza is superior with Kenjutsu and strength. His combination attack with Akamaru is strong however Zabuza can counter it with Giant Vortex Jutsu. Zabuza is also too experienced to be defeated by the likes of Kiba. He was an Anbu, Seven Swordsman, killed 100 Genin when only being in the academy, and tried to assassinate the Mizukage who was being controlled by Obito. He is definitely not losing to Kiba.

Go ahead, call me a fanboy, out debate me and prove me wrong.

Kiba could get his scent on zabuza's sent by spilling his blood on zabuza. Just like kakashi did. Or he could recognize zabuza's scent off the bat. fang wolf fang rips him apart.

 

[elsepa]

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Good bye mist

 

[RicardoA]

Zabuza beats: Tenten, Ino, Sakura and Shikamaru.
Not sure/Can go either way: Lee, Shino, Hinata and Kiba.
Zabuza isn't beating: Neji and Chouji.
This is what i think, Neji you already said it yourself and Choji is quite obvious, once he goes giant Zabuza has no way to defeat him, while Chouji's attacks will cover a wide area.
Lee, Shino, Hinata and Kiba are debatable. For me Shino and Kiba take it like 7/10 since both can easily track him, and Kiba has a high sense of smell he doesn't need Akamaru's piss unless they're going to use Garõga. Lee has the power and although he may not be able to track, he has the speed to do a counter. Hinata on the other hand has the means to track but has less power, but Air Palm is going to be a problem so she actually stands a chance.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

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Good bye mist

That was filler u idiot haha

At the same time or one on one?



Lee actually is smart, and it takes time for zabuza to put up the mist. Lee could stop him since he was able to react to edo haku while haku was using his mirrors. Lee was in base when he did this so qcq against zabuza should be childsplay. If zabuza does uses his 40 handseals water techs lee can use gates which has been shown to repel water.



Zabuza killing people in the mist is fast. Zabuza putting up the mist isn't. Besides Choji can use calorie control and blow the mist away with his chakra wings. After that butterfly bullet bombing. None of zabuza's techs are on choji's scale anyways.



Not completely true but shikaru most likely won't win.



And how does zabuza dodge airpalm? He can't see it coming, can't block it, knocks you over when it hits, and it targets vitals.



Kiba could get his scent on zabuza's sent by spilling his blood on zabuza. Just like kakashi did. Or he could recognize zabuza's scent off the bat. fang wolf fang rips him apart.

The mist actually gets put up rather quickly? Do u want scans? It was so fast that Zabuza put it up only 5 feet away from Kakashi and in front of Might guy who is extremely fast.

Zabuza beats: Tenten, Ino, Sakura and Shikamaru.
Not sure/Can go either way: Lee, Shino, Hinata and Kiba.
Zabuza isn't beating: Neji and Chouji.
This is what i think, Neji you already said it yourself and Choji is quite obvious, once he goes giant Zabuza has no way to defeat him, while Chouji's attacks will cover a wide area.
Lee, Shino, Hinata and Kiba are debatable. For me Shino and Kiba take it like 7/10 since both can easily track him, and Kiba has a high sense of smell he doesn't need Akamaru's piss unless they're going to use Garõga. Lee has the power and although he may not be able to track, he has the speed to do a counter. Hinata on the other hand has the means to track but has less power, but Air Palm is going to be a problem so she actually stands a chance.

Chouji isn't winning. It's chakra that makes him so big. Don't you think if Zabuza makes a dozen Water Clones and repeatedly impales his huge Kubikirobocho into Chouji, it will disrupt his chakra flow and revert him back to his original size?

 

[Obito3631]

He still loses to Neji.. lol
also Kiba,choji,shino,lee > Zabuza

 

[Shikamaru101]

Choji beats Zabuza for sure. Clones of Zabuzs stabbing his sword into Choji will only cut his toenails. And then all Choji needs to do is step on Zabuza or jump. i also can not see him defeat Lee, Kiba, Shino or Hinata if they are current Shippuden versions.

 

[Obito3631]

Choji beats Zabuza for sure. Clones of Zabuzs stabbing his sword into Choji will only cut his toenails. And then all Choji needs to do is step on Zabuza or jump. i also can not see him defeat Lee, Kiba, Shino or Hinata if they are current Shippuden versions.

if you think about it zabuza is very weak, i forgot about hinata, she can see through his mist and kiba can locate him with his scent

 

[fayeon]

hinata is no match for zabuza even if she through the mist she can't kill him with her techs

her techs is not strong enough

air palm does not kill or do a big damage it just blow the person away saying that will kill zabuza is a joke


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I think neji is the only one from k11 can kill him but i am not sure either if he will

lee and choji also have a chance because 8 gates is too strong and the butter fly mode too


about sakura you are underrating her i don't think she will win but she have a chance remember what sakura did when sasori throw the gas bomb sakura couldn't see but she come up with a plan she exploded the place she could do that to the mist too

and she can heal herself from zabuza attacks until she lay a punch on him

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Shino beats Zabuza. Bugs can sense.

Kiba beats Zabuza. Mist doesn't cover smell.

Choji beats Zabuza. Makes himself giant and crushes the battlefield.

Sakura beats Zabuza. A 12 year old useless Sakura reacted to Zabuza's movement in the mist. She can simply punch the ground and demolish the battlefield.

Lee beats Zabuza. His speed is superior to Sakura's and he can react to Zabuza.

 

[RicardoA]

Chouji isn't winning. It's chakra that makes him so big. Don't you think if Zabuza makes a dozen Water Clones and repeatedly impales his huge Kubikirobocho into Chouji, it will disrupt his chakra flow and revert him back to his original size?

Choji's size is about the same as the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path which makes everyone in the battlefield look the size of a barbie, probably even less. Water Clones are 10% as strong as the original, why would a dozen copies ten times weaker than Zabuza make a difference with their micro swords (comparing them to Choji)?
Choji isn't going to stand there and wait, one strike they are all gone. Again, his attacks will cover a huge area, of course Zabuza will be caught in the middle of it.
Sorry for the lack of manga pages, i was in a hurry and couldn't find them quickly.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Choji's size is about the same as the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path which makes everyone in the battlefield look the size of a barbie, probably even less. Water Clones are 10% as strong as the original, why would a dozen copies ten times weaker than Zabuza make a difference with their micro swords (comparing them to Choji)?
Choji isn't going to stand there and wait, one strike they are all gone. Again, his attacks will cover a huge area, of course Zabuza will be caught in the middle of it.
Sorry for the lack of manga pages, i was in a hurry and couldn't find them quickly.

The mist covers a huge area too... The Water Clones will be hidden in the mist and can repeatedly stab Chouji. Zabuza can also use huge Suiton like Giant Vortex Jutsu to hit Chouji dealing physical damage. If Chouji keeps getting dozens of stabs from the Kubikiribocho into him, I believe it will revert him back to his original form.

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Shino beats Zabuza. Bugs can sense.

So, Zabuza still knows where Shino is too.... And Zabuza will destroy Shino in close combat and he's faster, stronger, has more chakra, everything is against Shino. Shino has no counter for his Suiton too.

Kiba beats Zabuza. Mist doesn't cover smell.

So? Zabuza STILL knows where Kiba is too. Kiba still can't beat Zabuza because Zabuza counters his dog attack with his large scale Suiton and he is more stealthy. Plus his Tai/Kenjutsu will destroy Kiba

Choji beats Zabuza. Makes himself giant and crushes the battlefield.

Zabuza always moves BEHIND his target, Chouji falls forward, not behind. So no.

Sakura beats Zabuza. A 12 year old useless Sakura reacted to Zabuza's movement in the mist. She can simply punch the ground and demolish the battlefield.

Who cares if the ground is demolished? Helcome she doesn't even do that? She did it once against Kakashi in the first three episodes of shippuden because Kakashi was underground... it doesn't matter. Zabuza destroys Sakura because Sakura sucks ass.

Lee beats Zabuza. His speed is superior to Sakura's and he can react to Zabuza.

No.. he can't, not in the mist.

 

[Icelerate]

Shino beats Zabuza. Bugs can sense.

Kiba beats Zabuza. Mist doesn't cover smell.

Choji beats Zabuza. Makes himself giant and crushes the battlefield.

Sakura beats Zabuza. A 12 year old useless Sakura reacted to Zabuza's movement in the mist. She can simply punch the ground and demolish the battlefield.

Lee beats Zabuza. His speed is superior to Sakura's and he can react to Zabuza.

This is coming from the guy who said Temari loses to Zabuza.

The only one who wins for sure is Neji and probably Chouji too. Rock Lee VS Zabuza can go either way but Zabuza destroys the rest.