Rinnegan - Kishi biggest troll ever!

[Noni]

those techs aren't easily countered,
but i do agree i want to see someone who has experience and training with the Rinnegan.
The closest we got was Nagato but he didn't even use the ability to control 5 elements even though he has had the rinnegan for a long time.
The only was we can see and truly admire the rinnegan is if we get to see SO6P in action.

 

[thegame]

Other KKG seem stronger than Rinnengan? Which manga are you reading bro? Please do tell me, how any KKG touches rinnengan. Or tell me how 1 path of Pain destroyed Konoha, and how his 6 paths easily out-fought entire Konoha shinobi force.

Do again tell me, how some weak ass sharingan Sasuke could ever get near doing that.

 

[Mellanoma]

Other KKG seem stronger than Rinnengan? Which manga are you reading bro? Please do tell me, how any KKG touches rinnengan. Or tell me how 1 path of Pain destroyed Konoha, and how his 6 paths easily out-fought entire Konoha shinobi force.

Do again tell me, how some weak ass sharingan Sasuke could ever get near doing that.

Mokuton has obviously triumphed Rinnegan which till this day I will never understand why
Sharingan is also being used more than the Rinnegan by Tobi and Madara themselves and they have both.

Sharingan: Tamed Kyuubi
Mokuton: Supressed Kyuubi
Rinnegan: Failed to suppress the Kyuubi

Once again: I wish Kishi would give the Rinnegan the screen time it truly deserves. Right now he is trolling it by hyping it up then not showing us its "True" power.

 

[alexu9696]

Mokuton has obviously triumphed Rinnegan which till this day I will never understand why
Sharingan is also being used more than the Rinnegan by Tobi and Madara themselves and they have both.

Sharingan: Tamed Kyuubi
Mokuton: Supressed Kyuubi
Rinnegan: Failed to suppress the Kyuubi

Once again: I wish Kishi would give the Rinnegan the screen time it truly deserves. Right now he is trolling it by hyping it up then not showing us its "True" power.

bro true rinnegan power is bansho tein like madara did , remember the huge ass meteors , madara used bansho tein to atract the meteors....

then you have the soul eating stuff

Kishi lowered the rinnegan to make others defeat that , if kishi would go all in nobody would beat a riinegan user...

Young nagato own naruto and killer bee and they got luch itachi was there , and the bad part is if kabuto did not control nagato , nagato would have own itachi to...

Simple combo.... chibaku tensei then huge ass basho tein into the chibaku tensei..... GG not even only hashirama could do something abou that suumon the budha and use 1000 hands to hold onto something from being pulled by a bansho tein , chibaku tensei combo

 

[6PathsofKami]

This thread makes me laugh, Kishi showed us half of the power of the Rinnegan and that in itself was OP, ofcourse it was going to get countered everything does but it doesnt make it weak. If Nagato didnt encounter Hanzo he never would have become weak so he would have used all the elements plus the power of the 6 paths then the Rinnegan would have been fully OP tell me who could have stopped him then. Nothing is stronger than the Rinnegan not even Mokuton.

Those who are saying Rinnegan failed to capture the Kyuubi, Nagato, an Uzumaki ran out of chakra tell me who could have more chakra than him if he wasnt disabled and weak he could easily make that Chibaku tensei twice the size.

He couldnt use the elements because he wasnt using his real body, Jiraiya himself said Nagato mastered all the elements so no debate there.

 

[thegame]

Mokuton has obviously triumphed Rinnegan which till this day I will never understand why
Sharingan is also being used more than the Rinnegan by Tobi and Madara themselves and they have both.

Sharingan: Tamed Kyuubi
Mokuton: Supressed Kyuubi
Rinnegan: Failed to suppress the Kyuubi

Once again: I wish Kishi would give the Rinnegan the screen time it truly deserves. Right now he is trolling it by hyping it up then not showing us its "True" power.

Mokuton triumph rinnengan? You make me laugh. Look at Yamato? Hashirama is one unique case, and it's him, and not his mokuton, that may rival the rinnengan, however, we don't know, since we never saw such a fight. What makes you believe, rinnengan cannot absorb mokuton? Besides rinnengan has jutsu that are more destructable than even Hashirama's strongest jutsu. Rinnengan can destroy his 1000 arm man with a push. In the end it's just wood...

Comparing to control over the Kuybi is also lame. ABC logic is invalid in the narutoverse.

If Madara is not an example of the "true power" of the rinnengan, what is?

Even Nagato posses so many techniques, that no average shinobi could ever hope to fight him on equal terms without any knowledge. He can be airborne, invisible, absorb chakra, sense chakra, destroy cities, avoid any std tajutsu, I could go on.

If what it comes down to, is whether he can suppress the Kuybi or not, he definitely can suppress the Kuybi, however, suppressing the Kuybi, or suppressing the jinchuriki of the kuybi are 2 extremely different variables, and your logic is completely invalid anyways.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Mokuton triumph rinnengan? You make me laugh. Look at Yamato? Hashirama is one unique case, and it's him, and not his mokuton, that may rival the rinnengan, however, we don't know, since we never saw such a fight. What makes you believe, rinnengan cannot absorb mokuton? Besides rinnengan has jutsu that are more destructable than even Hashirama's strongest jutsu. Rinnengan can destroy his 1000 arm man with a push. In the end it's just wood...

Comparing to control over the Kuybi is also lame. ABC logic is invalid in the narutoverse.

If Madara is not an example of the "true power" of the rinnengan, what is?

Even Nagato posses so many techniques, that no average shinobi could ever hope to fight him on equal terms without any knowledge. He can be airborne, invisible, absorb chakra, sense chakra, destroy cities, avoid any std tajutsu, I could go on.

If what it comes down to, is whether he can suppress the Kuybi or not, he definitely can suppress the Kuybi, however, suppressing the Kuybi, or suppressing the jinchuriki of the kuybi are 2 extremely different variables, and your logic is completely invalid anyways.

Ofcourse he could have contained the Kyuubi, people are forgetting that it was during the end of the battle and he lost nearly all his chakra, he used most of his chakra on that Shinra tensei on Konoha and he just fought Jiraiya before that its amazing how he even managed to make a Chibaku tensei that big with his little chakra oh and he also used Rinnei tensei after that to revive everyone in the village, its just crazy what one man did in a weakened state with the Rinnegan without even using any of the elements too. Its scary what he could have done if his battle against Hanzo didnt weaken him.

 

[Mellanoma]

Mokuton triumph rinnengan? You make me laugh. Look at Yamato? Hashirama is one unique case, and it's him, and not his mokuton, that may rival the rinnengan, however, we don't know, since we never saw such a fight. What makes you believe, rinnengan cannot absorb mokuton? Besides rinnengan has jutsu that are more destructable than even Hashirama's strongest jutsu. Rinnengan can destroy his 1000 arm man with a push. In the end it's just wood...

Comparing to control over the Kuybi is also lame. ABC logic is invalid in the narutoverse.

If Madara is not an example of the "true power" of the rinnengan, what is?

Even Nagato posses so many techniques, that no average shinobi could ever hope to fight him on equal terms without any knowledge. He can be airborne, invisible, absorb chakra, sense chakra, destroy cities, avoid any std tajutsu, I could go on.

If what it comes down to, is whether he can suppress the Kuybi or not, he definitely can suppress the Kuybi, however, suppressing the Kuybi, or suppressing the jinchuriki of the kuybi are 2 extremely different variables, and your logic is completely invalid anyways.

My argument is can kishi show the rinnegan at its full power.......

 

[6PathsofKami]

My argument is can kishi show the rinnegan at its full power.......

Its too OP at full power unless he shows so6p flashback, I dont think Kishi will show it at full power unless its against something like the Juubi.

 

[Mellanoma]

Understandable, but why make everything else overly powerful leaving Rinnegan trailing in the wind. We "know" what the rinnegan has done in the past but why brag about the Rinnegan all the series then when its shown its defeated or not used lol.

 

[thegame]

Ofcourse he could have contained the Kyuubi, people are forgetting that it was during the end of the battle and he lost nearly all his chakra, he used most of his chakra on that Shinra tensei on Konoha and he just fought Jiraiya before that its amazing how he even managed to make a Chibaku tensei that big with his little chakra oh and he also used Rinnei tensei after that to revive everyone in the village, its just crazy what one man did in a weakened state with the Rinnegan without even using any of the elements too. Its scary what he could have done if his battle against Hanzo didnt weaken him.

Look, the reason Naruto won - of course it was due to chibaku tensei, that didn't allow Pain to combine the rest of his paths with the gravity ability. However, the reason Naruto won even after those powers returned, was simply that he went to the 9 tail mode. If Pain hadn't stabbed Hinata, he had been able to take Naruto with him. Naruto wouldn't let Kurama get ground, unless he would be filled with such hatred.
In other words, Minato had never been "summoned" within Naruto. Minato not only stopped the 9-tailed, he also refilled Naruto's chakra - and removed his injuries (although this was probably due to the 9 tail as well). Nonetheless Pain caused his own defeat. Ironically.

My argument is can kishi show the rinnegan at its full power.......

Its full power is SO6P, and we will never see that... Madara comes close. So did Nagato.
The fact that Nagato could revive every person he had just killed is proof enough. Don't forget. Nagato didn't lose to just Naruto. He lost to entire Konoha. He even killed one of the sage toads, who are probably the smartest fighters in the narutoverse, that we have seen.

Understandable, but why make everything else overly powerful leaving Rinnegan trailing in the wind. We "know" what the rinnegan has done in the past but why brag about the Rinnegan all the series then when its shown its defeated or not used lol.

We also saw what it can do. I don't see any of your "arguments" to be valid. It is no longer manga facts, it's just your personal opinion, and I cannot touch that, and you are of course entitled to it.
For me Kishi has proved enough, that rinnengan is - by far - the strongest.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Look, the reason Naruto won - of course it was due to chibaku tensei, that didn't allow Pain to combine the rest of his paths with the gravity ability. However, the reason Naruto won even after those powers returned, was simply that he went to the 9 tail mode. If Pain hadn't stabbed Hinata, he had been able to take Naruto with him. Naruto wouldn't let Kurama get ground, unless he would be filled with such hatred.
In other words, Minato had never been "summoned" within Naruto. Minato not only stopped the 9-tailed, he also refilled Naruto's chakra - and removed his injuries (although this was probably due to the 9 tail as well). Nonetheless Pain caused his own defeat. Ironically.

I know thats why he lost but I was saying if Nagato wasn't weak then he could have captured Naruto when 8 tails of the Kyuubi came out.

 

[thegame]

I know thats why he lost but I was saying if Nagato wasn't weak then he could have captured Naruto when 8 tails of the Kyuubi came out.

That is just a bold assumption, which you can't know, and never will know. From what we've seen, it didn't appear much differently this time compared to the last. Pain's chibaku tensei did capture him, however, when he went to the 8th tail, he broke free. So you can't really tell.

 

[Mellanoma]

That is just a bold assumption, which you can't know, and never will know. From what we've seen, it didn't appear much differently this time compared to the last. Pain's chibaku tensei did capture him, however, when he went to the 8th tail, he broke free. So you can't really tell.

Its clear thegame is no longer comprehending what ive been trying to say GG

 

[Liquid Snake]

Hashi's wood techs absorbs kyuubi's chakra....

i know it absorbs his chakra but look at how it just grabbed him like a little kid picking up the class gerble excuse the spelling but hashi str8 man handled the fox and look at how easy the nine tails was handling pain and wasnt even fully transformed and half his chakra is in the death seal

 

[thegame]

Its clear thegame is no longer comprehending what ive been trying to say GG

YEah your foolish ABC logic makes so much sense.... Asuma assisted by 3 others including Shikamaru is killed by Hidan, but Hidan is beaten by Shikamaru alone. Does that make Shikamaru+team+Asuma weaker than Shikamaru alone?? No. ABC logic is for idiots.

Read all my past posts. Nothing rivals rinnengan.

Rinnengan vs Sharingan :
No genjutsu works. No ninjutsu works. Only tajutsu, however, strong summons will not make it possible to get close. Mean while gedo Mazou can be summoned and destroy any enemy.

Rinnengan vs Mokuton
Wood isn't very strong. It will either be absorbed since it's made of chakra, or it will be destroyed by chibaku tensei or just a gravity push.

ABC logic doesn't work..... comparing them to Kurama alone is bullshit.. In fact, I bet I can make a vs thread between Nagato and Hashirama, and prove that Nagato can win as long as we count gedo mazou as part of his strength. Cause it is.

i know it absorbs his chakra but look at how it just grabbed him like a little kid picking up the class gerble excuse the spelling but hashi str8 man handled the fox and look at how easy the nine tails was handling pain and wasnt even fully transformed and half his chakra is in the death seal

From my point of view, he never defeated Kurama. Kurama was being controlled by Madara, and Madara used him in a way, so he let Hashirama touch his head. That touch somehow made him released from his contract and put him asleep. He never beat Kurama.

Nobody can beat Kurama. He matches several tailed beasts alone, and his knowledge and experience is larger than any ones. His ability to feel good and evil grants him major sensor abilities.
There is a huge difference between stopping someone from moving for a short while, for then to seal him, and to actually defeat him...

 

[Liquid Snake]

Ofcourse he could have contained the Kyuubi, people are forgetting that it was during the end of the battle and he lost nearly all his chakra, he used most of his chakra on that Shinra tensei on Konoha and he just fought Jiraiya before that its amazing how he even managed to make a Chibaku tensei that big with his little chakra oh and he also used Rinnei tensei after that to revive everyone in the village, its just crazy what one man did in a weakened state with the Rinnegan without even using any of the elements too. Its scary what he could have done if his battle against Hanzo didnt weaken him.

nagato killed jirayia way b4 he came to konoha fool how u think naruto had time to learn sage mode? and dnt boast nagato up jus yet he fought KM naruto not BM naruto

 

[Liquid Snake]

YEah your foolish ABC logic makes so much sense.... Asuma assisted by 3 others including Shikamaru is killed by Hidan, but Hidan is beaten by Shikamaru alone. Does that make Shikamaru+team+Asuma weaker than Shikamaru alone?? No. ABC logic is for idiots.

Read all my past posts. Nothing rivals rinnengan.

Rinnengan vs Sharingan :
No genjutsu works. No ninjutsu works. Only tajutsu, however, strong summons will not make it possible to get close. Mean while gedo Mazou can be summoned and destroy any enemy.

Rinnengan vs Mokuton
Wood isn't very strong. It will either be absorbed since it's made of chakra, or it will be destroyed by chibaku tensei or just a gravity push.

ABC logic doesn't work..... comparing them to Kurama alone is bullshit.. In fact, I bet I can make a vs thread between Nagato and Hashirama, and prove that Nagato can win as long as we count gedo mazou as part of his strength. Cause it is.



From my point of view, he never defeated Kurama. Kurama was being controlled by Madara, and Madara used him in a way, so he let Hashirama touch his head. That touch somehow made him released from his contract and put him asleep. He never beat Kurama.

Nobody can beat Kurama. He matches several tailed beasts alone, and his knowledge and experience is larger than any ones. His ability to feel good and evil grants him major sensor abilities.
There is a huge difference between stopping someone from moving for a short while, for then to seal him, and to actually defeat him...

are you really that stupid to think nagato would beat hashi? he wont even beat madara. Nagato is strong dnt get me wrong but he stands no chance against hashi and Bm naruto whoops him 2 and didnt jirayia use genjutsu on pain? so genjutsu does work

 

[thegame]

are you really that stupid to think nagato would beat hashi? he wont even beat madara. Nagato is strong dnt get me wrong but he stands no chance against hashi and Bm naruto whoops him 2 and didnt jirayia use genjutsu on pain? so genjutsu does work

I never said Nagato is stronger than Hashirama. I said rinnengan is stronger than mokuton. However, it can easily, theoretically, be proven that the abilities from rinnengan can overpower any jutsu, we have seen in Hashiramas arsenal so far.

But a kunai on the right person, can beat a KKG on the wrong person. That is the most essential part of the entire battle scenes in Naruto, and if you don't understand that, you have missed a major part of the story. In fact you should hate every fighting scene, where Naruto had the so callled "plot" helping him, where in fact it was his guts all the way...

Matching any newer shinobi to Hashirama or Madara is just fools play. It can't be done, simply because they were born before the village system. They were literally born at the battlefield. Experience is always greater than the amount of jutsu.

This thread is stating that rinnengan appears weaker than sharingan and mokuton. Overall that is just wrong. It all depends on the person, that has it.

Genjutsu worked on 3 paths of pain, yeah. This was sound genjutsu affecting all of them at once, which is different. A normal paralyzing genjutsu cast by sharingan will have no effect, which if you try and read just with a minor effort, you will notice that I'm referring to sharingan abilities....

And of course I could note, that so far no shinobi has proven to be able to stop a sound genjutsu. In fact the mechanisms of such jutsu is just unavoidable, unless Kishi introduces some sort of sound barrier, which he hasn't. That is also why, we saw only a few users of sound genjutsu. It's simply way too OP, when it has no counters.

 

[Klue]

oonoki stopped 2 Gigantic meteors with ease

Those two meteors that Onoki stopped with ease, obliterated an entire division (1,000s of shinobi).

Chibaku Tensei (unstoppable tech) was countered twice

Nagato claimed he could make it bigger the first time. Second time, the combined might of a Kyuubi powered FRS, a Bijuudama and Susnaoo's Yasaka Magatama, managed to pull it off.

That's quite an assault.

No pain was not a true user. He even said himself he was nothing compared to the S06p

S06p was only able to create the moon because he was using the power of the Juubi left over after creating the Bijuu. But you're still correct, Nagato was not a true user. He's more inline with Kakashi, someone that received a transplant.