[VS] Kisame & Zabuza vs Kakuzu & Hidan

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Guys, it doesn't matter if he doesn't start out using it. This is an imaginary match up, thus all jutsu at any point in this debate is relevant. Since this fight is never going to happen, it's up to the debaters to use the presented jutsu to try and make it happen. Kakuzu using earth grudge fear at the beginning of the battle is definitely relevant.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Oh i see your saying he uses Great Water Shark Bomb In the Water .. he hasnt been shown to use both at the same time in the water dome thats pretty outrageous using to high level jutsus like that at once.. So Kisame will have to go one at a time... Your also Forgetting Kakuzu could merge his two hearts creating wind+Fire whcih evaporates Water Style...

Please counter all of my points.

How does Kakuzu escape Water Dome when it's draining his chakra as well as cutting his oxygen supply. I can prove Kakuzu can't survive without oxygen if I have to.

Why wouldn't he be able to? He hasn't shown to because the only time he used water dome was against Killer Bee, whom he wanted to

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I don't think I need to explain Kisames massive chakra reserves, so it's definitely plausible. Not to mention, he was able summon a few sharks inside of his water prison jutsu, so this is proof he is able to use a jutsu within a jutsu just in a smaller scale.

You're forgetting Great Shark Bomb swallows any jutsu thrown at it...

 

[Zexion~]

But The Wind+fire Would Be Thrown At From The Outside seeing as the hearts are on the outside ... and they can combine on their own.
this would either dissipate the dome altogether or make it smaller so kakuzu could get out

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And Just to let you know Iron skin should also counter Great water shark Because once again earth>Water which is what the Shark Bomb Jutsu is .. And the Shark Bomb Cant Be aimed At Kakuzu and the Wind Fire Jutsu ...

 

[Obito3631]

Samehada cannot absorb high rank fire jutsu because its too hot, let alone the combination of katon zukokku + fuuton atsugai, it would simply kill it.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

But The Wind+fire Would Be Thrown At From The Outside seeing as the hearts are on the outside ... and they can combine on their own.
this would either dissipate the dome altogether or make it smaller so kakuzu could get out

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And Just to let you know Iron skin should also counter Great water shark Because once again earth>Water which is what the Shark Bomb Jutsu is .. And the Shark Bomb Cant Be aimed At Kakuzu and the Wind Fire Jutsu ...

There is literally not even a chance that an attack like that will evaporate even a quarter of the water dome. Kakashi was able to nearly stalemate it with a significantly smaller scale suuton.

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Earth>Water is insignificant when the suuton technique absorbs any jutsu with chakra in it. Iron Skin is infusing his chakra with his skin, therefore it will be ineffective against Great Shark Bomb.

I thought you just meant in general that his wind+fire technique will absorb any water technique kisame throws at him. You're counter to water dome is very far fetch'd and unlikely, even if it were to work, whats stopping Kisame from creating another one? He is able to create a lake with less then 30% of his chakra.

 

[EZQ]

Zabuza cutts hidan head in 10 secs

Kakuzu and Kisame would be sick, but zabuza helping kisame is too much for kakuzu, i think kakuzu wouldn't have the time to fix hidan's head if zabuza and kisame keep atacking

 

[Obito3631]

Zabuza cutts hidan head in 10 secs

Kakuzu and Kisame would be sick, but zabuza helping kisame is too much for kakuzu, i think kakuzu wouldn't have the time to fix hidan's head if zabuza and kisame keep atacking

No actually Hidan would draw Zabuza's blood and stab his heart in 5 seconds.

Kisame can't handle both Hidan and Kakuzu at the same time and his water dome can be countered if theres two of them.

 

[Professor Finesser]

Do you mind telling me why would he not use it right at the beginning? Rofl, he has no reason not to, plus Zexion has just proved you wrong, your argument is invalid.

Hidan is not fast enough? Nice joke, Hidan pressured Kakashi in CQC, does Kisame have the sharingan and 4.5 in speed? I don't think so, Kisame would lose in a taijutsu fight against Hidan.

I see that you're an ignorant kid who doesn't know anything about this manga.

First of all Zexon didn't prove shit, if you look 5 pages back you'll see Kakuzu stitching Hidans dumbass head back to his body.. It was not the beginning of the fight.

 

[EZQ]

^^ Obito3631

We have already discuss this, i think zabuza stomps hidan, and even more if he has kisame as a back up...

If kakashi couldn't stop the msit stainding 5 m away from him, how would hidan?

 

[Obito3631]

First of all Zexon didn't prove shit, if you look 5 pages back you'll see Kakuzu stitching Hidans dumbass head back to his body.. It was not the beginning of the fight.

It was already made clear, he was always able to use his tendril arm without going into his complete earth grudge fear body, period. you're biased if you think otherwise.

 

[Obito3631]

^^ Obito3631

We have already discuss this, i think zabuza stomps hidan, and even more if he has kisame as a back up...

If kakashi couldn't stop the msit stainding 5 m away from him, how would hidan?

Yes and you have been proven wrong on many points, Hidan actually stomps Zabuza especially if he's teamed with kakuzu, they both can interrupt the mist and fodderize Zabuza, he's a non-factor in this fight since Hidan,Kakuzu and Kisame are clearly on a whole other level.

Kakashi doesnt have any quick long range jutsu that could have interrupted Zabuza, Hidan and Kakuzu do.

Hidan has a scythe that he can throw and Kakuzu can extend his arms.

 

[EZQ]

Kakashi doesn't have a quick long range jutsu?

I'm leaving the thread OMFG

What about Water release, raikiri chain, raikiri dog, TRHROW A KUNAI AT LEAST

 

[Obito3631]

Kakashi doesn't have a quick long range jutsu?

I'm leaving the thread OMFG

What about Water release, raikiri chain, raikiri dog, TRHROW A KUNAI AT LEAST

water ninjutsu, raikiri and raikiri dog arent instant, they take a certain time to charge up while kakuzu can just instantly extend his arm and grab him by the neck, its way faster and effective. A kunai rofl.. it could have been countered by the other Edos guarding him. It would have been no use even so, its just a kunai

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Kakuzu > Kisame
Hidan > Zabuza

Kakuzu doesn't have anything on Kisame. Kisame's Suitons cancel Kakuzu's fire and Kakuzu doesn't have anything against Great Shark Bullet.

Zabuza destroys Hidan since Hidan has no way of finding him in the mist.

 

[Obito3631]

Kakuzu doesn't have anything on Kisame. Kisame's Suitons cancel Kakuzu's fire and Kakuzu doesn't have anything against Great Shark Bullet.

Zabuza destroys Hidan since Hidan has no way of finding him in the mist.

Great Shark bullet is useless against Hidan because of his immortality and durability, Kakuzu's Domu would tank Great Shark Bullet easily since Doton > Suiton , Kakuzu can turn Kisame's attack back against him with Raiton Gian since Water is a conduct for electricity, Kakuzu can electrocute him while he's spitting water or standing on it, Kisame has got nothing on Kakuzu since he masters almost all the elements and he has 5 lives.

Hidan destroys Zabuza easily, he's not even a factor in this fight, both Kakuzu and Hidan can interrupt him wihle hes trying to put up the mist then destroy him. Kisame doesn't stand a chance against both of them, he will get destroyed as well.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Durability? What durability does Hidan have, exactly? His head got cut by Asuma.

Kakuzu's Domu would tank Great Shark Bullet

No, it won't. It gets absorbed and smashes Kakuzu. If Hidan tries to fight it off too, he also gets drowned.

Hidan destroys Zabuza easily, he's not even a factor in this fight, both Kakuzu and Hidan can interrupt him wihle hes trying to put up the mist then destroy him.

Zabuza has a 4 in speed, just like Kakuzu. Hidan has a 3.5

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Durability? What durability does Hidan have, exactly? His head got cut by Asuma.

Kakuzu's Domu would tank Great Shark Bullet

No, it won't. It gets absorbed and smashes Kakuzu. If Hidan tries to fight it off too, he also gets drowned.

Hidan destroys Zabuza easily, he's not even a factor in this fight, both Kakuzu and Hidan can interrupt him wihle hes trying to put up the mist then destroy him.

Zabuza has a 4 in speed, just like Kakuzu. Hidan has a 3.5

 

[Zexion~]

There is literally not even a chance that an attack like that will evaporate even a quarter of the water dome. Kakashi was able to nearly stalemate it with a significantly smaller scale suuton.

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Earth>Water is insignificant when the suuton technique absorbs any jutsu with chakra in it. Iron Skin is infusing his chakra with his skin, therefore it will be ineffective against Great Shark Bomb.

I thought you just meant in general that his wind+fire technique will absorb any water technique kisame throws at him. You're counter to water dome is very far fetch'd and unlikely, even if it were to work, whats stopping Kisame from creating another one? He is able to create a lake with less then 30% of his chakra.

One Your scan is ridiculous lol he didnt stalemate it lol that is a B rank jutsu which is the same rank as kisame's Water Dome ..... Soo actually it could blow through it and what stops him from making another one is Hidan and kakuzu Coming at him right away ( If kakuzu Can get the wind+ fire off before The sharks rip hidan hell be able to make it out ( since he cant drown).

 

[Professor Finesser]

It was already made clear, he was always able to use his tendril arm without going into his complete earth grudge fear body, period. you're biased if you think otherwise.

Ohh I knew that but it's illogical to think he would use the tendril arms right off the bat he'd probably sit back and count money while hidan gets slaughtered by two ninja swordsman, I mean Kakuzu has the habit of underestimating his opponents and just not giving a shit about Hidan.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

One Your scan is ridiculous lol he didnt stalemate it lol that is a B rank jutsu which is the same rank as kisame's Water Dome ..... Soo actually it could blow through it and what stops him from making another one is Hidan and kakuzu Coming at him right away ( If kakuzu Can get the wind+ fire off before The sharks rip hidan hell be able to make it out ( since he cant drown).

If you can't distinguish the difference between the amount of water between the two i'm done debating with you. Kakashis suiton served it's purpose in defending him from Kakuzus attack, and the difference between the water mass of Kakashis suiton and water dome is enourmoss.

I'll say it again, by the time Kakuzu and Hidan realize that the water dome moves with them and decide to swim oposit directions; Hidan will be shark food and Kakuzu who needs to breath will be losing oxygen as well chakra being drained from him and is defenseless against GSB. GG, Kisame potentially solos.