MS Obito in Madara's place against Hashirama

[Kuzan]

Obito doesn't have the brute strengt to do Hashirama any harm IMO. His kamui will give Hashi a run for his money, but kamui alone is not enough to kill/defeat Hashirama.

 

[Minator93]

I believe that Obito would win if placed in that position.

Basically it would be would-style against MS + WS + Kyuubi + Perfect Izanagi + Greater Speed!!

Obito MS + WS + Izanagi is actually far more powerful than people think U_U

 

[Kuzan]

I believe that Obito would win if placed in that position.

Basically it would be would-style against MS + WS + Kyuubi + Perfect Izanagi + Greater Speed!!

Obito MS + WS + Izanagi is actually far more powerful than people think U_U

Remember that he can't use izanagi more than 1 time. He would go totally blind if he would and he would lose his Space/Time jutsu

 

[Sensational]

Hmmm I think Obito's kamui is over hyped...Don't get me wrong,it's an OP technique but there are ways to counter it...
Hashi can use wood clones and make the same thing Naruto-Kakashi did.Distract Obito to suck the clone and then get him from the other side.
I believe Hashirama is smart enough to figure it out.
Plus Madara had PS to protect Kurama and make him more durable,Obito doesn't have such a feat.He can only use Izanagi once...
His mokuton is weaker than Hashi's for sure...
I believe Hashi>Obito.

That was a plot hole in the manga, they shouldnt have been able to find him while in the other dimension and not only that but kakashi was the one that warped naruto not obito.

Obito isnt silly enough to warp a clone and even if he does there nothing preventing him from teleporting into the dimension and teleporting the clone somewhere else.

Strength isnt everything in a battle, if one person can no longer fight they the other wins, Obito is the best at that,

Cant beat what you cant touch

 

[Ldude]

Maybe you should go back and read the chapter.

Anyways are you saying Hashirama god of shinobi wont be able to figure it out?

Konan,Minato,Danzo have but Hashirama cant?

Flawed Logic.

Well, to be fair, Konan did spend a lot of time around him...And you don't know that hashirama would be able to figure it out.. when has he shown great analytical abilities during battle? We really haven't seen him fight enough to know...Then, we don't know how many clones Hashirama can make.

 

[Bogard]

Maybe you should go back and read the chapter.

Anyways are you saying Hashirama god of shinobi wont be able to figure it out?

Konan,Minato,Danzo have but Hashirama cant?

Flawed Logic.

Once again:
- Konan had decades to figure out Obito's technique, decades of prep time. Hashirama's wont have it
- Hashirama is not as smart as Minato
- I suppose you meant Danzo's bodyguards? They figured out nothing. Being able to know how a technique works doesn't mean you can counter it and they countered nothing since Obito gave his arm himself
- No one really knew how exactly his Kamui works until Kakashi, so what makes you think Hashirama would figure it out?

 

[Chuggs]

You don't need s/t technique to beat Obito. Hashirama can easily rape him with his wood clones, Madara was the only one able to see through them, he can just let him absorb one of his clones and kill him from inside his dimension, or simply sneak on him from the back.
He can't phase through an attack he can't see.

 

[Minator93]

Remember that he can't use izanagi more than 1 time. He would go totally blind if he would and he would lose his Space/Time jutsu

I know that, but remeber it Obito and not Danzo, when he uses the Izanagi he'll Kill Hashirama with it and not for some other thing.

And technically Obito could spam Izanagi since he has the S/T and this :

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[iFlowMotion]

You need a s/t technique to beat Obito. If you don't have that you cannot defeat him. End of story. Hashirama doesn't have speed feats. He would lose against Obito. Power means nothing if you can't hit your target.

Obito has 5 minutes after that Hashi Rapes no/low difficulty

 

[Enton]

he can just teleport ontop of shinsusenju and fight hashirama there. now that whole technique is useless. this is why kamui is ridiculous interms of hax.

 

[Kuzan]

I know that, but remeber it Obito and not Danzo, when he uses the Izanagi he'll Kill Hashirama with it and not for some other thing.

And technically Obito could spam Izanagi since he has the S/T and this :

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Sure, he would just implant new eyes in the middle of a fight... If he were to go blind in the fight, Hashi would not let him escape.

 

[Bogard]

Obito has 5 minutes after that Hashi Rapes no/low difficulty

5 minutes in continue. If during the 5minutes where his body is in Kamui dimension, in just one second his body is not in Kamui's dimension anymore, the process restarts itself again

 

[Lightbringer]

Even though Kamui is indeed overpowered, I still put my money on Hashi

I mean if Minato was able to react to it, then I'd wager Hashi can as well

 

[7Zero]

Hashirama>>>>>>>>>>Obito


Obito has been outsmarted so many times... Even danzos guards figured his technique out and he lost an arm.

Ermm.. no.

A dying Madara almost made Hashirama kill himself in front of his clan, and had to step in out of pity for his stupidity.
I can't even imagin what Obito would do to Hashirama if they were left alone. I'm not saying Obito could kill Hashi, but Hashirama will at least be spending a very long vacation in Obito's Kamui dimension, with a very high probability of Hashi killing himself due to isolation and depression.

 

[Sensational]

Obito has 5 minutes after that Hashi Rapes no/low difficulty

The attack has to be continuous for 5 mins with no openings then obito is forced to revert back, if its not he can just keep resetting the timer, or just **** on out of the area

Even though Kamui is indeed overpowered, I still put my money on Hashi

I mean if Minato was able to react to it, then I'd wager Hashi can as well

Thats because minato is capable of moving over an area of space instantly, hashi has no such move

 

[Telekinesis]

Come on guys, we are talking about space–time continuum jutsu

Hashirama>>>>>>>>>>Obito

Obito has been outsmarted so many times... Even danzos guards figured his technique out and he lost an arm.

When it comes Obito versus topics,

We have to use different point of view. Because Tobi's personality is different from Uchiha Obito. Tobi is a man of idea but Obito is a wretched child. (As we saw previously chapters)

As you said. Tobi has been outsmarted so many time that's why I think Tobi can handle him.

 

[Bogard]

Even though Kamui is indeed overpowered, I still put my money on Hashi

I mean if Minato was able to react to it, then I'd wager Hashi can as well

I hope you realise Hashirama is nowhere near Minato in terms of reaction speed and even Minato needed Hiraishin to escape Kamui. What makes Kamui an even more overpowered technique is that while his body is in the other dimension, it can't be sensed. It's only when he becomes tangible again that he can be sensed. Because of that it makes sneaky attacks really easy for someone like Obito and thus difficult to counter in a fight

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

Once again:
- Konan had decades to figure out Obito's technique, decades of prep time. Hashirama's wont have it
- Hashirama is not as smart as Minato
- I suppose you meant Danzo's bodyguards? They figured out nothing. Being able to know how a technique works doesn't mean you can counter it and they countered nothing since Obito gave his arm himself
- No one really knew how exactly his Kamui works until Kakashi, so what makes you think Hashirama would figure it out?

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They were able to analyze this right away from fighting with him.. With this knowledge alone you could beat Obito.. Hashirama could just over whelm him with lots of wood.. Continuous attacks.. He also has wood clones.. and even if he had Kyuubi Hashirama could do the same thing he did to Madara when he had Kyuubi.

Also Obito can only use Izinagi once.. otherwise he would go totally blind...

Its true that we dont know how smart Hashirama is... But even Naruto can be smart at times.. He did extremely well in the pain fight.. Hashirama has almost the exact same personality as Hashirama so we can infer Hashirama can be smart and serious in battle when he wants to...

You are overrating this Kamui way too much.

 

[Enton]

only konan's jutsu with years of prep time will ever make kamui run out. that jutsu was continuous, attacked from all angles and it made obito fall, so he had no ground to phase and disappear into. no other technique or situation like that will ever occur again.

 

[Minator93]

Sure, he would just implant new eyes in the middle of a fight... If he were to go blind in the fight, Hashi would not let him escape.

Are you kidding me? Nobody can capture Tobi, he is the greatest Escape Artist it took 3 badasses to land a single hit on him. And its essential to have S/T ninjutsu in order to fight Obito on equal terms U_U

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