[SPOILERS] THat's it DANZO IS TOBI

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Hmm...idk...im starting to see some similarities between them, but im just not sold on it yet. There are a good bit of similarities (Madara wanted to be Hokage when he challenged the 1st, Danzou wanted to be Hokage so he challenged the 3rd, The one eye we know has the Sharingan is the one Danzou keeps hidden, maybe Tobi keeps his face hidden so that no one know's he's Danzou.)

So maybe Tobi=Madara=Danzou? They're all the same person, and Danzou is just an alias? With his space/time jutsu...it could be possible...but idk...something just isn't adding up enough about this theory for me...but i could see it as a possibility.

There are some problems though. Such as what one guy above me said about Danzou ordering Sai to kill Sasuke...where as Tobi wants Sasuke alive. The only explaination i can think for this is that Madara wanted all Uchiha's dead except Itachi until his useful-ness ran out, but then he saw Sasuke was powerful, figured out Itachi was gonna let Sasuke kill him, and needed to use Sasuke as a replacement for Itachi.

But there's yet another problem.
Tobi made Sasuke want to destroy the Konoha elders....which includes Danzou. Unless Tobi=Madara=Danzou and so maybe then once Sasuke takes care of the rest of Konoha and maybe captures Naruto for the 9-tails, Tobi/Madara reveals himself to be Danzou and he will betray Sasuke since Sasuke's useful-ness will then be over.

The more i think about this, the more im starting to believe this is how it will go...but i'm still not so sure Obito isn't involved somehow. So, idk...maybe Tobi=Madara=Danzou in Obito's body?

GAH! I'm thinking about this waayy too much lol, but really...everyone is thinking they're all different people...what if Kishi surprises everyone by making them all the same person?


Just a few theories there, take what you will, diss the rest if you must. But as for me I'm leaning toward the possibility that Tobi is Madara and Danzou(somehow in Obito's body)

 

[ssanimo]

if danzo was tobi/madara he would have taken the village over during the 3rd's second term.......no one could have stopped him the support from root......but he's not and facial features aren't the same nor the hair.......

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Yea...i thought of the appearances right after i got done posting that lol. My brain was just goin on overload and thats what i came up with. Plus...Danzou has his left eye with no scar or anything to support a transplant (therefore, not in Obito's body).

But idk, it just seems like alot to have two big villians to face at one time for Naruto, and it certainly would be surprising if they were all the same person lol.

But yea...for now...i'm thinking either Tobi=Madara in Obito's body, or possibly Tobi=Danzou...but from what we've seen of Tobi's face it seems a bit younger than Danzou...however, we know that there are techniques to make ppl look younger (like Tsunade's), so maybe he tried doing that and wound up with half his face younger? Which is why he keeps that half hidden under the bandages as Danzou?

Ya know...I really don't know what to think anymore, I'm just gonna watch the manga carefully and see what Kishi says about it lol

 

[Achilles]

if tobi=danzo=madara then there is no point for madara to act like danzo

madara is quiet powerful enough to obtain the title of hokage

i think they are different

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

if tobi=danzo=madara then there is no point for madara to act like danzo

madara is quiet powerful enough to obtain the title of hokage

i think they are different

Unless Madara wanted to be as certain of victory as possibly, and wanted to attack Konoha from both the inside and out? And Madara is "a shell of his former self" which is why he's hiding in Akatsuki. If he's THAT uber powerful right now, why not just face every obstacle head on and obliterate everything that opposes him?

And, everyone know's Madara is/was a rouge ninja, so why appoint some random ninja they don't even really know as Hokage when they could appoint their trusted black ops leader with the title? If Tobi=Madara=Danzou, then he gets everything he wants without much trouble to him while he gets to use everyone else to do the work and get killed off

If Tobi=Madara=Danzou, then he gets to obliterate Konoha (through Pain and Sasuke), then maybe lead the rest of Akatsuki down a path to thier destruction by using ROOT, making him Konoha's hero. Then he gets appointed Hokage and can rebuild Konoha as he see's fit without anyone ever having to know his real identity.

But like I said, I can't be certain of anything for sure, its just a possibility. At this point, only Kishi really knows whats going on, there are just too many gray areas that don't add up.

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Also...I don't know the chapter, but somewhere during Pain's invasion does'nt Danzou say something like "Looks like Akatsuki has it's uses after all", or something about Akatsuki actually being useful...as if he knew them and they were'nt very useful for the most part...considering most of them died against Konoha ninja.

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Yea, chapter 424, page 2

Danzou: "Luckily, thanks to this commotion, I've been able to escape Tsunade's surveillance. "Akatsuki" are good for something after all..."

Unfortunately in page 3 of that chapter he says "But we can't let "Akatsuki" have the Nine-tailed beast. So I've removed that possibility." Which could be a problem with this theory.

But if my theory is correct that Tobi is all 3 people then he could've said that because he wants most of Akatsuki out the way after he's done with them as well. He didn't actualy send Pain to Konoha to capture Naruto, but more to destroy most of Konoha to make them even more ticked at Akatsuki, so when he takes Akatsuki down he looks like a hero. And so he didn't want Naruto to be captured by Pain, because he knew Sasuke was headed to Konoha. And...knowing the past between Naruto and Sasuke he could be hoping that after Sasuke takes out the other elders (who could be in on the plan and know that he is all 3 people) Naruto will kill Sasuke, taking out yet another Akatsuki member and S-rank enemy of Konoha. Thereby taking out just about everyone who could possibly know his true identity in one attack against Konoha.

Also notice how on page 3 of 424 he calls Tsunade "the princess" in a sarcastic sort of way. So if he is Madara, he would've known that she's the 1st Hokage's grandaughter and therefore hold alot of anger toward her since she became Hokage like the 1st instead of him.

Idk, it just all seems to place together pretty well for now.

And as for the appearances...now that im taking a closer look at Danzou...his hair and Tobis hair are quite similar and they both have the lines (wrinkles) around their cheeks.

 

[ssanimo]

also to follow up on my earlier post the 3rd was given the title hokage by the 1st and 2nd........meaning they either all 3 shared the title at the same time or didnt.........bottom line is the 3rd was tought by the 1st.......he would have been hokage level when the 1st fought madara also its been stated that danzou was his former teamate and that he challenged the 3rd to fight for title of hokage..............the 3rd would have know seeing as how his master fought with madara.........the his teamate was no more than 14 yrs old and none other than danzou himself

 

[Emperor]

The page in that chapter shows absolutely nothing that is proof............

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

also to follow up on my earlier post the 3rd was given the title hokage by the 1st and 2nd........meaning they either all 3 shared the title at the same time or didnt.........bottom line is the 3rd was tought by the 1st.......he would have been hokage level when the 1st fought madara also its been stated that danzou was his former teamate and that he challenged the 3rd to fight for title of hokage..............the 3rd would have know seeing as how his master fought with madara.........the his teamate was no more than 14 yrs old and none other than danzou himself

Are you sure it's Danzou that was the 3rd's teammate? Because i thought of that for a sec too, but then i remembered it was the other old elder guy. It was the 3rd, the elder lady, and then the other elder dude thats always with her.

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

The page in that chapter shows absolutely nothing that is proof............

No, by itself that page isn't much proof, but if you add it all up it makes sense. I'm not saying that Tobi=Madara=Danzou is definite, but its a viable theory. The thing is that we just don't have enough facts yet that can prove or disprove anything. So nothing can be totally proved or disproved until Kishi falt out tells us.

But if you put all the facts together, this works out FOR NOW, and you have to admit, it would be a nice twist since everyone thinks they are all seperate people.

 

[shaolinchad]

plz stop with this Danzo is tobi. It is impossible for that to be true...
It's not the same guy, get over it.

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Why is it impossible?

"If your gonna call bullshit, post the link to prove it"

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

This is a completely ridiculous theory if anything the las chapter and the entire anga itself proves Danzou is not Madara.

1. Kisame seen his face and knew exactly who he was
2. Danzou was responsible for helping wipe out the Uchiha because they were being unruly and looked to support the same ideals as Madara.
3. Someone posted it earlier but Danzou wanted Sasuke dead and Madara doesn't.
4. he could not be in all of those places at once even with his space time Jutsu.
5. He tried to kill Nagato and had Yahiko killed so yeah Nagato would just join up with him for the heck of it.


Sorry to there are countless other reasons why he is no way shape or form Madara sorry nice fanmade theory but no dice sorry.

 

[shaolinchad]

Why is it impossible?

"If your gonna call bullshit, post the link to prove it"

I call bullshit because it is what it is. Sorry but to have tobi be danzo would not make sense. Read all the chapters again, because your missing everything. Plz everyone drop this thread of tobi being danzo. There are too many reasons for this not to be true. Such a dumb theory!!!!

 

[Alucard]

Didnt Danzou to kill all the Uchihas? Then why helping the one Uchiha left, and able to kill him to find him self?

lol just no. Tobi isnt Danzou

 

[Kawagiri]

WELL OK TOBI = DANZO CHAPTER 446 CONFIRMS IT, THE EYE THAT DANZO IS COVERING IS THAT SHARIGUN .

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too circumstancial ... it's like saying 2 people are related cos they wear the same hat or shirt or have the same hairstyle

kishi probably does these things so people comes up with these theories, just as a bit of personal fun for himself. and secondly there are only a certain amount of characters u can draw... sometimes it's best to add an eyepatch or bandages so it's a more recognisable character.

 

[peaceful]

There is some evidence that Tobi/Madara could be Danzo. My one problem with that theory though is how is Tobi/Madara talking to Sasuke about what really happened while Danzo is sitting underground with his ROOTs at the same time?

And also Tobi/Madara has made it clear that he wants to destroy the leaf. This is not Danzo's goal. Danzo in his heart really wants to protect the leaf, he just thinks it should be done no matter what the cost is. He thinks Tsunade is weak and not willing to make the tough calls. Also he thinks that Naruto should be hid away and such.

It just wouldn't really make sense for them to be the same person when their goals are quite different.

Kagebushin jutsu...

 

[Xero]

Kagebushin jutsu...

And there it is again, folks. The universal answer to all loopholes in every theory. Kagebunshin No Jutsu...

 

[UnknowNinjaName]

but pain didnt say where danzo wanted to become hokage as i know it is konoha but it could be kirikagure too the thing is we will see is he going to say something about uchiha madara if not then tobi could be danzo with sharingan...