PROOF: Madara lost to Hashi on purpose.

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Not a Madara fan. I like Hashi, Senju etc better. But I remembered something after seeing the latest chapter.

How in the world did Madara lose to a wood clone when.....

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He clearly says here that he could see though his wood clones back in the day. I know this is a weird thing to notice but I remember it because I remember being impressed that Madara was the only one who could see through those clones.

We know Madara fought mainly to get Hashi's cells, and I'm not saying that Madara could beat Hashi, because they fought many times and if Madara could've just killed Hashi and took his cells he would have.

I'm just saying I don't believe that the Wood Clone really worked on Madara. Look at this:
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For those of you with a keen eye for detail, you'll notice what I'm talking about. Hashirama was not dead, yet why did Madara not only deactivate his sharingan, but more importantly he kept his back turned on Hashirama?

This is a guy he's fought and lost to countless times, and made it seem like he wanted to do nothing but kill him. Why would he let his guard down and turn his back on an opponent who was clearly still alive. Why didn't he just finish the job?

It's simple. Because he wanted Hashi to deal the final blow.

**Edit** Credit goes to Q of the Sharingan for this find.

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On this page we see Madara's sharingan was active and not only that, but he noticed something about Hashirama. That's why you see the two "!!" in the bottom right panel over Madara and the bottem left focuses on Madara's sharingan. He most likey noticed the wood clone here.

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The very next page, his Sharingan is suddenly deactivated for no apparent reason.
 
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Not a Madara fan. I like Hashi, Senju etc better. But I remembered something after seeing the latest chapter.

How in the world did Madara lose to a wood clone when.....

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He clearly says here that he could see though his wood clones back in the day. I know this is a weird thing to notice but I remember it because I remember being impressed that Madara was the only one who could see through those clones.

We know Madara fought mainly to get Hashi's cells, and I'm not saying that Madara could beat Hashi, because they fought many times and if Madara could've just killed Hashi and took his cells he would have.

I'm just saying I don't believe that the Wood Clone really worked on Madara. Look at this:
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For those of you with a keen eye for detail, you'll notice what I'm talking about. Hashirama was not dead, yet why did Madara not only deactivate his sharingan, but more importantly he kept his back turned on Hashirama?

This is a guy he's fought and lost to countless times, and made it seem like he wanted to do nothing but kill him. Why would he let his guard down and turn his back on an opponent who was clearly still alive. Why didn't he just finish the job?

It's simple. Because he wanted Hashi to deal the final blow


His Sharingan was off so he couldn't tell the difference.
 

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The focus is on Madara's sharingan when Hashi jumps down, showing that Madara noticed something with his eyes.
 

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I'm getting the same feeling. Maybe he just accepted he was going to lose and twisted the fight to make it look like he died. He's clearly not stupid and knows Hashirama is superior.
 

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His sharingan wasn't active, Thats why he fell for it.
 

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The focus is on Madara's sharingan when Hashi jumps down, showing that Madara noticed something with his eyes.

What do you think he noticed?
 

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sorry if i say this but..
Bblablablabla..he didn't die so what does it matter...
 

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What do you think he noticed?

He noticed that it was a wood clone and not the real Hashi. He has already stated that his sharingan could tell the difference. That is why a panel is dedicated to only his sharingan eye.
 

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He is the only one who can see through them doesn't mean he can't ever be taken off guard not to mention his sharigan wasn't even on anymore.We can't possibly know until next chapter
 

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I would think Madara would have wanted to kill Hashirama and not throw the fight for now reason.
 

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Not a Madara fan. I like Hashi, Senju etc better. But I remembered something after seeing the latest chapter.

How in the world did Madara lose to a wood clone when.....

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He clearly says here that he could see though his wood clones back in the day. I know this is a weird thing to notice but I remember it because I remember being impressed that Madara was the only one who could see through those clones.

We know Madara fought mainly to get Hashi's cells, and I'm not saying that Madara could beat Hashi, because they fought many times and if Madara could've just killed Hashi and took his cells he would have.

I'm just saying I don't believe that the Wood Clone really worked on Madara. Look at this:
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For those of you with a keen eye for detail, you'll notice what I'm talking about. Hashirama was not dead, yet why did Madara not only deactivate his sharingan, but more importantly he kept his back turned on Hashirama?

This is a guy he's fought and lost to countless times, and made it seem like he wanted to do nothing but kill him. Why would he let his guard down and turn his back on an opponent who was clearly still alive. Why didn't he just finish the job?

It's simple. Because he wanted Hashi to deal the final blow

I have proof u a idiot read this^^
 

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His sharingan wasn't active, Thats why he fell for it.

His Sharingan was off so he couldn't tell the difference.

My answer to you two is the page that Q of the Sharingan was kind enough to point out. Madara's sharingan was active in the page that he provided (look at the other guy I quoted last for the page). Madara clearly noticed something about Hashirama. What he noticed was most likely the fact that Hashi was a wood clone. It was after this that he deactivated his sharingan. There's no reason for him to do that other than to let Hashi think his guard was down.

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The focus is on Madara's sharingan when Hashi jumps down, showing that Madara noticed something with his eyes.

I asked you what you felt he noticed to make sure we were on the same page. But yes that's exactly what I believe to. thanks for bringing that up.
 

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I am thinking the same thing too but Madara said the hokage beat him
 

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he didnt think hashi would kill him he said in the manga you changed or in the *********** translation you grown balls
 

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We shall praise Lord Hashirama .
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My answer to you two is the page that Q of the Sharingan was kind enough to point out. Madara's sharingan was active in the page that he provided (look at the other guy I quoted last for the page). Madara clearly noticed something about Hashirama. What he noticed was most likely the fact that Hashi was a wood clone. It was after this that he deactivated his sharingan. There's no reason for him to do that other than to let Hashi think his guard was down.



I asked you what you felt he noticed to make sure we were on the same page. But yes that's exactly what I believe to. thanks for bringing that up.

Anybody that thinks otherwise is just being biased. The proof is right there. Madara did "throw" the fight. Of course it came down to the wire either way. I think that Madara did that so he could get close enough to the real Hashi to get his DNA without him noticing.
 

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well...you have a point.....however haters will keep on convincing themselves that madara had lost. Of course it did seem that madara was stabbed by hashirama but over the years reading kishi's manga we did learn one thing....what appears to be obvious isn't so obvious actually......which is why i do think something isn't just right. And please those who say madara didn't have any chance against hashirama, i hope you people have noticed that both were at their limits after their last powerful techniques....madara's kyuubi was taken out of his control and hashirama's thousand hands thingy was totally destroyed with him getting back to normal. both were almost totally drained and after the final clash with their weapons it was hashirama who seemed to be lost. then somehow it has been shown that it was a wood clone and the real hashirama snuck up from behind madara and stabbed him. But nothing can be said as to why madara's sharingan was deactivated or why he let his guard down.....
 
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