Deidara > Minato

[Wood Release]

Deidara could defeat Minato, yes. This isn't synonymous with Deidara being stronger than Minato.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Keeping his distance means more time for Minato to counter whatever he throws at them with S/T barrier.
Also water bullet is a long range tech, keeping his distance isnt going to save him.

Deidara will dodge water bullet very easy. Minatos space time barrier won't work on c4, see OP.

 

[Momo86]

It's not that the OP contains any wrong fact. It's just that it's unrelevant.

First off, we know more or less the full abilities of Deidara, but not quite. For instance, he had put the restraint on himself to only use the explosion style in conjunction with the stolen jutsu that allows him to manipulate clay. He usually fight this way because of his sense of art. For what we know, Deidara could have a ton of options with explosion style that don't involve clay or shooting or, vice versa, a lot of options with the clay jutsu that we just don't know.

Conversely, we don't know much of all of Minato's abilities. We know that he is proficient with high speed taijutsu, space-time jutsu, bukijutsu, fuinjutsu, shape transformation and summoning. But that means not that we know all of his abilities. We had no idea he could use lifeforce to seal people, before we saw him doing it; we had no idea that space-time barrier existed. We probably don't know at all of other feats he may have. If, for instance, Minato is versed in lightning style, then the fight is a lot different than if he is nothing of the sort.

However, let's say that what we've seen so far is all that these two can do.

Who can say that Deidara can and will dodge ALL the kunai Minato can throw? Remember that there are many instances of ninja who redirected a thrown item with chakra to give it a "homing" effect. At the same time, how do we know that Minato could dodge all the bombs with scientific precision?

But let's assume, as the OP does, that Deidara can always hit Minato and not vice versa. For instance, I have an hard time seeing Minato dodge the C4 Garuda, which is hardly dodge-able at all. But, does Minato KNOW about the C4 Garuda, or is just oblivious to it? If he is oblivious, he'll undoubtedly get disintegrated. But why should he be oblivious? Fights in Naruto don't always go that way, and that usually makes a difference. Shikamaru just cannot beat Hidan, plain and simple, if not after observing and understanding Hidan's jutsu and preparing for it... but we are assuming that MInato cannot do that with Deidara. Why?

But even giving that for granted (that Minato doesn't know anything about Deidara's style) it still doesn't imply that the reverse cannot be true - Deidara could very well know nothing about Minato's style and strong points, thus falling easily pray to a Flying Raijin or to a ranged attack from Gamabunta.

Yet, of course, if we assume that Deidara is attacking from the above, mid-flight (and the OP does assume this) then sure, Deidara got too much of an advantage to be taken by surprise by any of these. But here we are basically saying that we can hypothize that Deidara ambushes Minato while the opposite cannot be considered.

Therefore yes, IF Deidara is bombarding Minato by surprise and IF Deidara's style is entirely unknown and impossibile to understand for Minato and IF all of Minato's capacities are the one we already saw, THEN... yes, he's very likely to lose against Deidara.

But does this mean much really?

 

[Draphsin]

Deidara doesn't start on the ground....

Deidara>Minato

See original post

I read your post

Minato > deidara

Food cart destroyer grounds deidara or closes the gap between them instantly. You are severely underestimating minato's speed...

And in a 1v1 you cant give deidara the advantage of having a summoning in the air, thats ridiculous and immediately puts him at an advantage. If they started on the ground then he would get blitzed before he even gets a chance to summon his bird

 

[KidGamer65]

Minato beats him before he ever gets into the sky.


Inb4 OP says he auto starts in the air for this match.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Yes. That is what I'm saying. Sasuke, for example, did. And that was AFTER he lost his ability to fly. You should listen to me. You might, I don't know, not look like a deliberately obtuse fool for attempting to argue by simply saying an opponents word is stupid.

So your saying if he throws 1000 kunai and deidara fly's upwards faster than the kunais can that one will appear above him? Seems legit.

 

[Draphsin]

Minato beats him before he ever gets into the sky.


Inb4 OP says he auto starts in the air for this match.

Exactly....

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

It's not that the OP contains any wrong fact. It's just that it's unrelevant.

First off, we know more or less the full abilities of Deidara, but not quite. For instance, he had put the restraint on himself to only use the explosion style in conjunction with the stolen jutsu that allows him to manipulate clay. He usually fight this way because of his sense of art. For what we know, Deidara could have a ton of options with explosion style that don't involve clay or shooting or, vice versa, a lot of options with the clay jutsu that we just don't know.

Conversely, we don't know much of all of Minato's abilities. We know that he is proficient with high speed taijutsu, space-time jutsu, bukijutsu, fuinjutsu, shape transformation and summoning. But that means not that we know all of his abilities. We had no idea he could use lifeforce to seal people, before we saw him doing it; we had no idea that space-time barrier existed. We probably don't know at all of other feats he may have. If, for instance, Minato is versed in lightning style, then the fight is a lot different than if he is nothing of the sort.

However, let's say that what we've seen so far is all that these two can do.

Who can say that Deidara can and will dodge ALL the kunai Minato can throw? Remember that there are many instances of ninja who redirected a thrown item with chakra to give it a "homing" effect. At the same time, how do we know that Minato could dodge all the bombs with scientific precision?

But let's assume, as the OP does, that Deidara can always hit Minato and not vice versa. For instance, I have an hard time seeing Minato dodge the C4 Garuda, which is hardly dodge-able at all. But, does Minato KNOW about the C4 Garuda, or is just oblivious to it? If he is oblivious, he'll undoubtedly get disintegrated. But why should he be oblivious? Fights in Naruto don't always go that way, and that usually makes a difference. Shikamaru just cannot beat Hidan, plain and simple, if not after observing and understanding Hidan's jutsu and preparing for it... but we are assuming that MInato cannot do that with Deidara. Why?

But even giving that for granted (that Minato doesn't know anything about Deidara's style) it still doesn't imply that the reverse cannot be true - Deidara could very well know nothing about Minato's style and strong points, thus falling easily pray to a Flying Raijin or to a ranged attack from Gamabunta.

Yet, of course, if we assume that Deidara is attacking from the above, mid-flight (and the OP does assume this) then sure, Deidara got too much of an advantage to be taken by surprise by any of these. But here we are basically saying that we can hypothize that Deidara ambushes Minato while the opposite cannot be considered.

Therefore yes, IF Deidara is bombarding Minato by surprise and IF Deidara's style is entirely unknown and impossibile to understand for Minato and IF all of Minato's capacities are the one we already saw, THEN... yes, he's very likely to lose against Deidara.

But does this mean much really?

Holy crap dude, are you saying if he didn't know minatos abilities that he would dodge a kunai??.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Minato beats him before he ever gets into the sky.


Inb4 OP says he auto starts in the air for this match.

He's only started on the ground once.. That's the only reply you will get. Think about it.

 

[BigBlade Master]

No, just no.

 

[KidGamer65]

He's only started on the ground once.. That's the only reply you will get. Think about it.

He needed to be in the air to sneak into the Sand Village and capture Gaara so he can take him back to the hide out. He has no reason to start in the air so he won't. End of story. Minato beats Deidara before he ever gets into the air. The fact that you are trying to let him start in the air shows that Deidara needs prep to beat Minato.

Butthurt?

 

[~Supreme Itachi~]

I read your post

Minato > deidara

Food cart destroyer grounds deidara or closes the gap between them instantly. You are severely underestimating minato's speed...

And in a 1v1 you cant give deidara the advantage of having a summoning in the air, thats ridiculous and immediately puts him at an advantage. If they started on the ground then he would get blitzed before he even gets a chance to summon his bird

food cart destroyer?? really?? that fodder move??
wow well why i'm surprised this is coming form an ELITE MINATO FAPBOY

c4 garuda>>>>>minato
tsukoyomi>>>>>minato

deidara clearly rapes minato if he starts on the air
but it does not mean that he looses in the ground
deidara can make C4 clones and that clone will be hit by minato and minato gets trapped
by minato

u fodder

 

[Draphsin]

He's only started on the ground once.. That's the only reply you will get. Think about it.

Letting him start in the air is prep time, and its advantageous to deidara....cant deny it U_U

food cart destroyer?? really?? that fodder move??
wow well why i'm surprised this is coming form an ELITE MINATO FAPBOY

c4 garuda>>>>>minato
tsukoyomi>>>>>minato

deidara clearly rapes minato if he starts on the air
but it does not mean that he looses in the ground
deidara can make C4 clones and that clone will be hit by minato and minato gets trapped
by minato

u fodder

I dont give a sh*t what you have to say and frankly, nobody else on the base does either....:bye:

 

[Calpal]

whoever seriously thinks that deidara would beat minato is smokin rocks lol

 

[TrollingSage]

So your saying if he throws 1000 kunai and deidara fly's upwards faster than the kunais can that one will appear above him? Seems legit.

He did throw a kunai faster than Ay could him hit, just saiyan

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

He did throw a kunai faster than Ay could him hit, just saiyan

ima ignore that you ever said that.. Smh

 

[~Supreme Itachi~]

Letting him start in the air is prep time, and its advantageous to deidara....cant deny it U_U



I dont give a sh*t what you have to say and frankly, nobody else on the base does either....:bye:

don't be so butt hurt brother
ur burning now brother that butt hurt is solid huh??

C4 garuda>>>minato
tsukoyomi>>>>minato

food cart destroyer???
LOLOLOL XD LAUGHABLE well ur a minato fanboy after all

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

That, my good sir, depends. If they begin on the ground, Deidara may be susceptible to a blitz. Minato's only issue here is C4. Minato easily dodges C1 up until C2, but C3 is taken care of with the S/T Barrier. If Deidara decides to use his Dragon, I'm sure Minato can get the element of surprise with food cart destroyer, landing on top of his dragon, and killing Deidara in the process. If Minato can tag him, which I'm sure he could, he wins. If not, it goes to Deidara.

You must know though, Minato is one of the hardest to fight without knowledge. Deidara doesn't begin while he's on the ground, so if Minato can throw a couple of Kunai besides him, on top of him, or anywhere else, how would he know he's just going to teleport out of nowhere and kill him? Long story short, Deidara is screwed if he's anywhere near Minato.

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Minato actually did get the Kunai above A's shoulders before he dodges him.

 

[FleeOnSight]

He either speed blitz or summon and army of toads. Either way deidara has no chance.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

That, my good sir, depends. If they begin on the ground, Deidara may be susceptible to a blitz. Minato's only issue here is C4. Minato easily dodges C1 up until C2, but C3 is taken care of with the S/T Barrier. If Deidara decides to use his Dragon, I'm sure Minato can get the element of surprise with food cart destroyer, landing on top of his dragon, and killing Deidara in the process. If Minato can tag him, which I'm sure he could, he wins. If not, it goes to Deidara.

You must know though, Minato is one of the hardest to fight without knowledge. Deidara doesn't begin while he's on the ground, so if Minato can throw a couple of Kunai besides him, on top of him, or anywhere else, how would he know he's just going to teleport out of nowhere and kill him? Long story short, Deidara is screwed if he's anywhere near Minato.

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Minato actually did get the Kunai above A's shoulders before he dodges him.

Yes but a kunai isn't faster than deidara. Deidara is almost always flying as well. Deidara would notice buntas big ass shadow as well. I also doubt he would go to his dragon. He has no reason to.