So answer me this please?

[Lightbringer]

I have read previous threads about this, but couldn't find answer, if someone can tell me logically..

It is said there is time limit between which Nagato could use Rinne Tensei to bring people back to life, like he couldn't bring Yahiko and Jiraiya.

So why is it that Madara was expecting to be brought back to life using Rinne Tensei while he died long before Jiraiya's death?

Someone mentioned that he can only bring people back whom he killed himself, if so, when did Nagato kill Madara?

If it is already discussed, give me link to it.

I believe there is only a time limit to resurrect someone without sacrificing your life. To bring back someone long dead takes one life most likely. If you recall, when Nagato used Rinne-Tensei, she was worried about him dying from chakra loss, not the actual jutsu....so that's my logical conclusion.

 

[taladagah]

that's right, he had been fighting the whole leaf village, and he used tons of chakra already..

so have obito been doing in the war... they both would dare to use rinne tensei in a long battle they would surely die....

for that matter, if kabuto was smart he should have took better advantage of the technic. although if used on an unwilling edo, they would be his puppets anymore. i personally think kishi has made it hard for him self to stick to all this logics he created. bet the have so many ideas shot down due to every logic his created

 

[foxyladyland]

So what was Obito's plan to bring Madara back to life if he saw how weak Nagato is to be able to bring Madara back to life

after they captured all the bijuu, he was planning on using nagato Rinne Tensei by to bring old Madara back...

because Obito is stronger than old Madara, so he could make madara jinchuriki of the juubi..

and control old madara jin with the mazou being attached to obito...

and make madara use infinite tsukuyomi... so he can stop all the fighting and see Rin again.

 

[taladagah]

I believe there is only a time limit to resurrect someone without sacrificing your life. To bring back someone long dead takes one life most likely. If you recall, when Nagato used Rinne-Tensei, she was worried about him dying from chakra loss, not the actual jutsu....so that's my logical conclusion.

yea that and he actually did die after reviving all the dead leaf ninja

 

[The Fourth]

This is a very good point, to which at the moment i have no explanation, going to do some research and get back.

 

[Cromatic]

But, Nagato was already too weak, had they even captured all the bijuu to make Juubi, how can you expect Nagato to seal Juubi into his own weak body to be able to use Rinne Tensei by taking in Juubi's chakra to revive Madara?

 

[foxyladyland]

for that matter, if kabuto was smart he should have took better advantage of the technic. although if used on an unwilling edo, they would be his puppets anymore. i personally think kishi has made it hard for him self to stick to all this logics he created. bet the have so many ideas shot down due to every logic his created

yeah , he created a lot for himself to deal with and keep track of, doing a great job though with the mysteries

yea that and he actually did die after reviving all the dead leaf ninja

overexertion of chakra

But, Nagato was already too weak, had they even captured all the bijuu to make Juubi, how can you expect Nagato to seal Juubi into his own weak body to be able to use Rinne Tensei by taking in Juubi's chakra to revive Madara?

they didn't capture all the bijuu, remember he went to the leaf for naruto & killer bee was still M.I.A.
Obito and Nagato both could control the Mazou so they might have tried together when the time came

 

[Loki Helcast]

Obito explicitly confirmed it now, and it has been hinted at earlier as well. In the past, Obito complained how "Nagato wasted the Gedo Rinne Tensei", and that would suggest that this technique can be used once in a long period at the very least. Now we have confirmation that it can only be used once since it consumes the user's own life in the process. As for Nagato, he supposedly could have survived using it as Konan hinted, but it would be due to his Uzumaki lineage, known for super strong life force. Maybe it was the reason for Madara choosing him in the first place. I think this will be revealed in the subsequent chapters, along with Naruto finding out that Nagato was his relative.

I think that the fact that this technique can only bring back people after a short period of time should be mentioned. I have two things, that I think is proof that there's a time limit on this technique: Nagato said himself, that there's still time. Why would he say that if he could resurrect the people back any time he wanted? Also, what about Yahiko, he could have used this technique to resurrect him, but he didn't. The only time limit mentioned was how long Nagato has left before he would die which coincides with Konan's remark about how Nagato would die if he used Rinne Tensei with his chakra levels at the time. Remember he was meant to bring back Madara, who was likely dead way longer than Yahiko.

Obito, and Madara both stated Nagato could of used the technique on either of them. So there is no time limit.It is hinted to rely on the chakra level of the person and mastery of the Rinnegan. So when the ten tails is complete Madara will want Obito to use Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique to revive him so he can become the jinchuuriki.

Because Obito is fighting using his chakra like Nagato was, Obito should die really if he doesnt rest and get his chakra back so Madara and Obito need to wipe out the alliance army before Obito revives madara.Now thats a problem beause if there a no shinobi left whats the point of infinite tsukuyomi.And if they don't wipe out the army and Obito doesn't rest he will die after using the technique to revive Madara.If Obito dies then he doesn't get to see Rin in the dream world, Obito wants to see Rin above all else so i cant see Obito dying just for Madara.

 

[foxyladyland]

that's a great explanation, but I wonder if nagato even knew about rinne tensei when yahiko died.

 

[Loki Helcast]

that's a great explanation, but I wonder if nagato even knew about rinne tensei when yahiko died.

i would say no he didnt but when obito explained about rinne tensei im sure nagato would have thought about it he was his best friend