[Theory] The Scroll of Sealing Belonged To The Uzumakis And Not To The Senjus

[TrollingSage]

Well, Mito was the one who sealed Kurama inside of herself, so Mito was the one who performed the seal. Hashirama and Mito got married, so she gave the info on the technique to Hashirama.
It doesn't make sense for him to develop his own version of the seal, while an Uzumaki like his wife can just show him the original tech

Nevertheless, Kushina said it was based on the uzumaki sealing tech, not that it was the actual tech. Meaning it was a variant of it.
Not to mention it's likely that fodder jounin was simply taking the piss out of Naruto. Only Hiruzen and few jounins actually witnessed the fox being sealed, and its also highly unlikely said jounin would know the contents of the scroll.

No, the Fuinjutsu itself came from the Uzumakis, this is the official Viz Translation

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Not only the type of seal (Four Trigrams,etc.) but the very fuuinjutsu itself came from her village Uzushiogakure

It still says "based on a jutsu developed by my village". Ergo, a variant, or derivative of the jutsu.
It's the same shit

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Nevertheless, Kushina said it was based on the uzumaki sealing tech, not that it was the actual tech. Meaning it was a variant of it.
Not to mention it's likely that fodder jounin was simply taking the piss out of Naruto. Only Hiruzen and few jounins actually witnessed the fox being sealed, and its also highly unlikely said jounin would know the contents of the scroll.

It still says "based on a jutsu developed by my village". Ergo, a variant, or derivative of the jutsu.
It's the same shit

Nope, the original jutsu itself came from the Uzumakis, which came from Rikudou who himself was an Uzumaki

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[Giest]

it seems like a good theory to me.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Nevertheless, Kushina said it was based on the uzumaki sealing tech, not that it was the actual tech. Meaning it was a variant of it.
Not to mention it's likely that fodder jounin was simply taking the piss out of Naruto. Only Hiruzen and few jounins actually witnessed the fox being sealed, and its also highly unlikely said jounin would know the contents of the scroll.

It still says "based on a jutsu developed by my village". Ergo, a variant, or derivative of the jutsu.
It's the same shit

He was actually a chunin like Iruka...

I guess it could be true, but I still don't see why someone would make his own version, while his wife has knowledge of the original jutsu.

 

[TrollingSage]

Nope, the original jutsu itself came from the Uzumakis, which came from Rikudou who himself was an Uzumaki

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Dude dont be like that. It's clear that scan meant sealing jutsus in general. Bee and Naruto were sealed with different sealing techs, the other jinks probably have different seals as well. Your own scan from Kushina says "based on a jutsu developed by my village", not "based on a jutsu developed by the sage".

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Dude dont be like that. It's clear that scan meant sealing jutsus in general. Bee and Naruto were sealed with different sealing techs, the other jinks probably have different seals as well. Your own scan from Kushina says "based on a jutsu developed by my village", not "based on a jutsu developed by the sage".

You're merely denying the elephant in the room, it is clear as day that the Fuuinjutsu of Jinchuuriki and not the variants of the seal came from the Uzumakis which came from the Sage who himself was an Uzumaki that's why the Uzumakis have the Fuuinjutsu, because Rikudou was also from the same clan.

And FYI, Mizuki was the one telling the truth in that chapter while the rest were hiding the truth from Naruto, Mizuki had no reason to lie that the scroll was used to seal Kurama inside Naruto so it remains a canon fact.

 

[NarutoKage2]

But we know Naruto's seal is an original Uzumaki seal and mizuki said that it was the seal from the scroll that Minato used...

yeah....and?
i dont disagree on that, read what i wrote again.

 

[TrollingSage]

You're merely denying the elephant in the room, it is clear as day that the Fuuinjutsu of Jinchuuriki and not the variants of the seal came from the Uzumakis which came from the Sage who himself was an Uzumaki

And FYI, Mizuki was the one telling the truth in that chapter while the rest were hiding the truth from Naruto, Mizuki had no reason to lie that the scroll was used to seal Kurama inside Naruto so it remains a canon fact.

Dude I like your theories, but there's just way too many holes in this one
First of all, you're the one denying the elephant in the room
1. That scan was talking about fuinjutsu in general, that much is clear
2. Mizuka was trying to get Naruto riled up and give him the scroll, the truths he was meant to help him to that effect. What makes you think he wouldnt add a few lies to help. If you're going to insist what the fodder says is cannon, mind explaining how he knew the contents of the scroll then? Or what sealing jutsu was used to seal Naruto

 

[Transcendence]

Dude dont be like that. It's clear that scan meant sealing jutsus in general. Bee and Naruto were sealed with different sealing techs, the other jinks probably have different seals as well. Your own scan from Kushina says "based on a jutsu developed by my village", not "based on a jutsu developed by the sage".

Who was the first known Jinchuriki in the Manga? (Minus the Sage)

Mito Uzumaki. Naruto's seal was developed in the Uzumaki's village but an Uzumaki was the first to use a seal to become a Jinchuriki. Every Jinchurki sealing after that is inherently derived from the one's developed from the Uzumaki village/Mito's variant.

Logical deduction my friend. Try it.

OT: Shouldn't it be obvious? "Scroll of SEALING". Oh look here. Uzumaki's are known for what? SEALING YOU SAY. Can it not be anymore obvious... Anybody attempting to refute that is wrong.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Dude I like your theories, but there's just way too many holes in this one
First of all, you're the one denying the elephant in the room
1. That scan was talking about fuinjutsu in general, that much is clear
2. Mizuka was trying to get Naruto riled up and give him the scroll, the truths he was meant to help him to that effect. What makes you think he wouldnt add a few lies to help. If you're going to insist what the fodder says is cannon, mind explaining how he knew the contents of the scroll then? Or what sealing jutsu was used to seal Naruto

No, the scan was talking about Rikudou's fuuinjutsu itself

So you're saying Mizuki was lying wherein fact he was the one telling the truth in that chapter about Naruto being the Jin of Kurama when Iruka Hiruzen and the others were hiding that fact from Naruto? You cannot disprove his statements, logic dictates that he was telling the truth, and he did not need to know the technical info in the scroll to know the common fact that the scroll was used to seal Naruto.

 

[TrollingSage]

Who was the first known Jinchuriki in the Manga? (Minus the Sage)

Mito Uzumaki. Naruto's seal was developed in the Uzumaki's village but an Uzumaki was the first to use a seal to become a Jinchuriki. Every Jinchurki sealing after that is inherently derived from the one's developed from the Uzumaki village/Mito's variant.

Logical deduction my friend. Try it.

OT: Shouldn't it be obvious? "Scroll of SEALING". Oh look here. Uzumaki's are known for what? SEALING YOU SAY. Can it not be anymore obvious... Anybody attempting to refute that is wrong.

Perhaps you didnt read my post well or your comprehension skills are lacking. I was saying the seal was DERIVED from an uzumaki sealing tech, not the seal itself, which is exactly what Kushina says in that scan. Also that scroll was actually "the scroll of forbidden jutsus". Naruto learnt shadow clone jutsu from the scroll.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Perhaps you didnt read my post well or your comprehension skills are lacking. I was saying the seal was DERIVED from an uzumaki sealing tech, not the seal itself, which is exactly what Kushina says in that scan. Also that scroll was actually "the scroll of forbidden jutsus". Naruto learnt shadow clone jutsu from the scroll.

The scroll's official name is Fūin no Sho 封印の書 which literally translates to The Scroll of Seals. the official databook said so.

 

[Transcendence]

^^There you go. A flaw in your response.

It is called the Scroll of Seals, not the Scroll of Forbidden Jutsu.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Yeah i somewhat agree. Probably it was so6p who created that scroll.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Nice theory I always suspected the Scroll of Sealing came from the Uzumaki considering they were masters in sealing techniques.

 

[TrollingSage]

Mito Uzumaki. Naruto's seal was developed in the Uzumaki's village but an Uzumaki was the first to use a seal to become a Jinchuriki. Every Jinchurki sealing after that is inherently derived from the one's developed from the Uzumaki village/Mito's variant.

So u are sayin every other village made their variant of the uzumaki seal? Isnt it obvious then that shodai also made his variant in his scroll which he carries around? Afterall, there is shadow clone tech and he has his own variant the multiple wood clone tech.

Secondly the scroll contained forbidden sealing tech(Hence refereed to as scroll of forbidden jutsu), that doesnt mean it is automatically an uzumaki book. Other villages had their variant written including cloud village, shodai had his.
I am just saying it more than possible he learnt from them when formed an alliance with his relatives because no 1 refers to it as an uzumaki book. There is an uzumaki clan mask, if u make ur variant it will derived form uzumaki clan but not original

 

[ROSH2]

gjb sir Naruto specialist
SO6P is a Uzumaki it his family name after he discovered ninjutsu Uzmaki family change to Uzumaki ninja clan they are sealing jutsu specialist but Senju clan or 1 hokage aren't sealing jutsu specialist because of that 1hokage can't create sealing jutsu scroll

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

gjb sir Naruto specialist
SO6P is a Uzumaki it his family name after he discovered ninjutsu Uzmaki family change to Uzumaki ninja clan they are sealing jutsu specialist but Senju clan or 1 hokage aren't sealing jutsu specialist because of that 1hokage can't create sealing jutsu scroll

That is the idea yes

 

[Honord Sage]

If you remember the Shadow Clone Jutsu is a Jonin Level jutsu,that Naruto master before graduating as a Genin it was His graduation exam, could be Naruto is a natural with Uzumaki jutsus that are high level over the normal ones.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

If you remember the Shadow Clone Jutsu is a Jonin Level jutsu,that Naruto master before graduating as a Genin it was His graduation exam, could be Naruto is a natural with Uzumaki jutsus that are high level over the normal ones.

I think it's because Naruto had a natural affinity with the scroll since it belonged to his predecessor Rikudou Uzumaki