Communism

[Kenotthib]

Welcome to why we have the second amendment:

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States"




The second amendment creates security against corrupt government. Should they become corrupt we will already have the tools necessary to reform the United States. We also have a constitution that can be used to reform the United States as well. Only thing we need are some politicians to make the populace rebel.

Problem is people against our government are labeled as terrorist or radical and are eliminated. Our president can take out anyone labeled a threat via drones.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Problem is people against our government are labeled as terrorist or radical and are eliminated. Our president can take out anyone labeled a threat via drones.

When I say a revolution I mean a full blown revolt in cities across the nation. You can label people whatever you want but a label doesn't matter when you are having your entire population rise up against you. Our military is sworn to protect the constitution and if the government is telling them to disobey it in mass there will be many defectors that will protect the people of this country.

Also we have 300 million+ guns in this country. Enough to arm every citizen should a revolt happen. The first thing the government will try to do before taking away our rights is take away our guns. Only then could they even have a chance of enslaving us.

Fortunately our guns are a right so they cannot pre-emptively strike against us.

 

[Kenotthib]

When I say a revolution I mean a full blown revolt in cities across the nation. You can label people whatever you want but a label doesn't matter when you are having your entire population rise up against you. Our military is sworn to protect the constitution and if the government is telling them to disobey it in mass there will be many defectors that will protect the people of this country.

Also we have 300 million+ guns in this country. Enough to arm every citizen should a revolt happen. The first thing the government will try to do before taking away our rights is take away our guns. Only then could they even have a chance of enslaving us.

Fortunately our guns are a right so they cannot pre-emptively strike against us.

Unfortunately most americans are brainwashed by the Zionist controlled media and are unaware of how their government is slowly taking their liberties. I don't know if you believe that 9/11 was a inside job but there is a real document on operation northwoods. READ IT.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Unfortunately most americans are brainwashed by the Zionist controlled media and are unaware of how their government is slowly taking their liberties. I don't know if you believe that 9/11 was a inside job but there is a real document on operation northwoods. READ IT.

I believe it was an outside job by a terrorist we funded, trained, and armed like idiots. Then a dumbass of a president refused the Talibans offer to give us Bin Laden and his entire organization if we just left them in peace with their little plot of sand and mountains.

 

[Kenotthib]

There are a lot of holes in the story on how 9/11 came about.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

There are a lot of holes in the story on how 9/11 came about.

I wouldn't be surprised if they knew about the whole thing before hand. We have pretty good spies and intelligence. I can't see them over looking such a large operation especially since Al Quiada failed at blowing up the trade centers before.

 

[Kisturb]

Hello,everybody.
I'm a Chinese. I've joined the Communist Youth League of China since many years ago.
But I'm not an atheist. To be honest, in China Mainland, children have to try their best to join the organization as a glorious action.
As far as I know, the real communist society have never existed. It's just like paradise or heaven, it's not real.
Until now, China just announces that it's a socialism country, not a communist country.
So in some aspects, the theory of Marx is just a piece of shit.

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Hello,everybody.
I'm a Chinese. I've joined the Communist Youth League of China since many years ago.
But I'm not an atheist. To be honest, in China Mainland, children have to try their best to join the organization as a glorious action.
As far as I know, the real communist society have never existed. It's just like paradise or heaven, it's not real.
Until now, China just announces that it's a socialism country, not a communist country.
So in some aspects, the theory of Marx is just a piece of shit.

Join the organization? You mean the party?

Like I have always said. Communism is the perfect government for the perfect people that make the perfect decisions at the perfect time for the perfect reasons. Unfortunately humans are far from perfect so it can never work for us. If you had a society of Machines then communism might work since they do everything for logical reasons.

 

[Anorien16]

Join the organization? You mean the party?

Like I have always said. Communism is the perfect government for the perfect people that make the perfect decisions at the perfect time for the perfect reasons. Unfortunately humans are far from perfect so it can never work for us. If you had a society of Machines then communism might work since they do everything for logical reasons.

Ants kinda do that......

 

[YowYan]

To me, a democratic nation, is a indirect communist nation. A democratic nation is just better at hiding the fact you have no rights.

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[ROSH2]

Communism too unrealistic & capitalism is too much selfish Egoism
both are useless

 

[King-Panda]

Hello,everybody.
I'm a Chinese. I've joined the Communist Youth League of China since many years ago.
But I'm not an atheist. To be honest, in China Mainland, children have to try their best to join the organization as a glorious action.
As far as I know, the real communist society have never existed. It's just like paradise or heaven, it's not real.
Until now, China just announces that it's a socialism country, not a communist country.
So in some aspects, the theory of Marx is just a piece of shit.

Wow, I was somehow wanting someone from china/north korea here to debate, although I wasn't expecting one...

I don't live in china, so you know stuff from there better than me...

But I ask you, what happens if there's a group of people that are against the government ideas?

Problem is people against our government are labeled as terrorist or radical and are eliminated. Our president can take out anyone labeled a threat via drones.

Agree with you again.... Normally when there is a group against the government they do everything they can in order to brainwash athe people to believe that group is the bad one, as you said, terrorists, etc... But glad there's democracy, where everything is debated, and once can't simply ignore strong/better ideas

To me, a democratic nation, is a indirect communist nation. A democratic nation is just better at hiding the fact you have no rights.

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Madness, pure madness.. I also once asked myself why people don't just make money and give it too the poor and that... That sounds so nice and easy, but it would cause a negative impact #BusinessManTalk

 

[Ashflura]

Not the way North Korea is doing it.
Equality is nice, but then there are some more deserving of others. Everyone should be given the basic necessities of life, but left with the choices to excel in education or not. Some prefer the easy life, while others prefer to travel, and others want to know all the secrets of life. It would be insulting to study for a profession for several years aiding society, while being the same paycheck as the janitor next door. A government should be able to provide, and confide.

 

[King-Panda]

Not the way North Korea is doing it.
Equality is nice, but then there are some more deserving of others. Everyone should be given the basic necessities of life, but left with the choices to excel in education or not. Some prefer the easy life, while others prefer to travel, and others want to know all the secrets of life. It would be insulting to study for a profession for several years aiding society, while being the same paycheck as the janitor next door. A government should be able to provide, and confide.

Exatly, as said in one of the thoughts in the thread, people that would go through years and years of hard work in education, would receive the same as someone that didn't and had a job like cleaning? Not disrespecting cleaners here of course...

What makes more and more people to be doctors, engineers, and that is the passion and also the prospect for their future, to have a nice life in the future... If they knew they would receive the same as a road cleaner for example, they wouldn't bother that much... So the government would have then have to control what people do??

Hmmm doesn't sound good to me

 

[Ashflura]

A government should invest more in the studies that will aid society more. You know lowering prices for people studying to become researchers, surgeons, pharmacists, etc. And increasing if they need to junk food, alcohol and cigarettes, to divert people's attention to a healthier and more active lifestyle.
Having a passion to help others should never be knocked down but encouraged. I went through quite a bit of hardship when I made the decision to study agriculture, my mum thought I was going backwards. But I'm sticking with my guns and mentality to give back to society by improving their food source hopefully and educating others just how wrong the limit of food we digest each day and other stuff. A sort of mentor would be nice.

 

[ZK]

This thread is hilarious.
Everyone just yells 'Communism!' and label themselves intellectuals.
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) A one-party Communist state is a contradictio in terminis.
Marxism-Leninism, Anarcho Communism > Stalinism, Communist States.

China and North Korea have nothing to do with Communism. China's system of government is a form of state capitalism.

 

[King-Panda]

This thread is hilarious.
Everyone just yells 'Communism!' and label themselves intellectuals.
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You must be registered for see links

) A one-party Communist state is a contradictio in terminis.
Marxism-Leninism, Anarcho Communism > Stalinism, Communist States.

China and North Korea have nothing to do with Communism. China's system of government is a form of state capitalism.

Instead of calling this ridiculous, why not tell us about your views, you intellectual....

when you're probaby the one with a different idea, Instead of sending a wiki link, I haven't got time or patiente to read it all, so if you got something to say, and I presume you have read it, you could say a summary of the most important things.... Better than calling this stupid...

A government should invest more in the studies that will aid society more. You know lowering prices for people studying to become researchers, surgeons, pharmacists, etc. And increasing if they need to junk food, alcohol and cigarettes, to divert people's attention to a healthier and more active lifestyle.
Having a passion to help others should never be knocked down but encouraged. I went through quite a bit of hardship when I made the decision to study agriculture, my mum thought I was going backwards. But I'm sticking with my guns and mentality to give back to society by improving their food source hopefully and educating others just how wrong the limit of food we digest each day and other stuff. A sort of mentor would be nice.

agriculture? Interesting, I have met a man few weeks ago in a place we stayed which was agricultor himself... He was really wise...

Anyway, sorry my ignorance, but what's agriculture about nowadays? I know what it is ofc, but what kind of prospects does it offer to you??

I am looking forward to do something related to geology (alongside biology or chemistry maybe) or biology/chemistry (medicine, chemist, etc)....

Here in UK the price is normally 9K, 9.000 pounds, and they loan it to you, then when you are employed and get 21K or more per year, they take like 3% of your salary. If you receive less or not employed, you don't pay. If it has been 30 years or more it cancels out... Not too bad I think, it kinda helps those that really want to succeed but haven't got much money

 

[Darthlawsuit]

To me, a democratic nation, is a indirect communist nation. A democratic nation is just better at hiding the fact you have no rights.

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Nope. The US two party system is somewhat like it, we need to fix that little issue someday. Oh we have rights. The federal/state government has been trying to take away those rights and our court systems are striking down those laws as unconstitutional. Sherrifs are also refusing to enforce some illegal laws. The politicians are trying to take them away but their attempts keep failing at both the vote and in the courts.

Benjamin Franklin said this:

Democracy is three wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

Even if 99% vote in favor of something if it violates their rights then it is illegal.

This thread is hilarious.
Everyone just yells 'Communism!' and label themselves intellectuals.
(

You must be registered for see links

) A one-party Communist state is a contradictio in terminis.
Marxism-Leninism, Anarcho Communism > Stalinism, Communist States.

China and North Korea have nothing to do with Communism. China's system of government is a form of state capitalism.

It used to be very communist in the beginning then they figured out that doesn't work. Communism is either a fantasy or a failed system.

 

[YowYan]

Nope. The US two party system is somewhat like it, we need to fix that little issue someday. Oh we have rights. The federal/state government has been trying to take away those rights and our court systems are striking down those laws as unconstitutional. Sherrifs are also refusing to enforce some illegal laws. The politicians are trying to take them away but their attempts keep failing at both the vote and in the courts.

Benjamin Franklin said this:

Democracy is three wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

Even if 99% vote in favor of something if it violates their rights then it is illegal.


It used to be very communist in the beginning then they figured out that doesn't work. Communism is either a fantasy or a failed system.

Nope. There's plenty of political/corporate policies and scams that the people are against, but their efforts will either get ignored or fed the illusion that (govt.) will fix those things. Like the FED, the disappearing of trillions, NDAA, and what not.

When talking about rights, I'm looking at it from a wider perspective. The small efforts of some good samaritans are good, but somewhat futile underneith the hand of Imperialism.

 

[Stencil]

This thread is hilarious.
Everyone just yells 'Communism!' and label themselves intellectuals.
(

You must be registered for see links

) A one-party Communist state is a contradictio in terminis.
Marxism-Leninism, Anarcho Communism > Stalinism, Communist States.

China and North Korea have nothing to do with Communism. China's system of government is a form of state capitalism.

There is much truth in that.
However, North Korea say that they're a 'democracy' but 99% of this 'democracy' is linked straight to communism. As for China they're getting out of it. Still not a perfect model for state capitalism.