Misconception: Tobirama never hated Uchihas

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Bogard

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If he really hated Uchihas can someone explain me why he had a Uchiha(Kagami) in his team? Why did he decide to be the decoy to save their lifes if he could have send Kagami to be the decoy? All what Tobirama wanted is peace. He says it since he was young:
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But after some time observing Uchihas or hearing some rumours, he simply feared that Uchihas could turn evil and if they turn evil, it's really bad for the peace of the village:
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People say Tobirama hated the proposition of Madara being Hokage, but this is wrong. If you read, he even tells to Hashirama that it's no problem, only that it should be better to have the village opinion:
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Now do you tell me that saying that is wrong? Why would villagers accept to be under the commandment of someone they don't like, against their own will? It's called democratie.

He also gives his opinion concerning it, advising Hashirama concerning Uchihas mental problems and it's something he really had to since it's something we've seen plenty of times. Just look what happened later? All Uchihas we know who got depressed after experiencing true love turned evil(Obito, Madara, Sasuke), and if it happens, it's dangerous for the village

Like he says himself by giving them the police department, it was to try to canalyse them and their hatred:
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It's only that he feared.

So i don't think Tobirama hated Uchihas. He only feared their hatred to be obstacle for peace in the village. I thought it was clear but unfortunately it seems people can't read manga properly
Reason why he tried to canalyse their emotions
 

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Hated? No. But he did let his paranoia get the better of him, as did Madara.
 

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he just followed the path of his dad..though...
he is old enough to know people can change
 

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Completely agree with you OP

He had the most logical approach and his concerns were indeed legitimate.
 

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no, he hated the uchiha and wanted them all dead. that's why he made them police, so that everyone would hate them and wanna kill them. who doesn't hate cops i mean seriously f the police and f the mods.
 

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:devil: why would you make this thread when I just made a thread on Tobirama????? Just gonna steal my thread and make your own....... I hate you:dafq:
 
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I'm waiting for the "Tobirama killed Izuna so he's the cause of Madara going evil" cop out.
 

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If he really hated Uchihas can someone explain me why he had a Uchiha(Kagami) in his team? Why did he decide to be the decoy to save their lifes if he could have send Kagami to be the decoy? All what Tobirama wanted is peace. He says it since he was young:
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But after some time observing Uchihas or hearing some rumours, he simply feared that Uchihas could turn evil and if they turn evil, it's really bad for the peace of the village:
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People say Tobirama hated the proposition of Madara being Hokage, but this is wrong. If you read, he even tells to Hashirama that it's no problem, only that it should be better to have the village opinion:
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Now do you tell me that saying that is wrong? Why would villagers accept to be under the commandment of someone they don't like, against their own will? It's called democratie.

He also gives his opinion concerning it, advising Hashirama concerning Uchihas mental problems and it's something he really had to since it's something we've seen plenty of times. Just look what happened later? All Uchihas we know who got depressed after experiencing true love turned evil(Obito, Madara, Sasuke), and if it happens, it's dangerous for the village

Like he says himself by giving them the police department, it was to try to canalyse them and their hatred:
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It's only that he feared.

So i don't think Tobirama hated Uchihas. He only feared their hatred to be obstacle for peace in the village. I thought it was clear but unfortunately it seems people can't read manga properly
Reason why he tried to canalyse their emotions

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Explain that.
 

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yeah tobirama didn't give a poop about democracy he just hated madara and wanted to be like 'you can't be hokage'
 

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Tobirama was just very cautious of the Uchiha. Just a simple lack of trust.
 

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Very true..Tobirama always wanted peace for the village..if he hated the uchihas he would have them exterminated when he became the 2nd hokage but he didn't he even gave them a place of importance in the village.
 

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You can't say that as tobirama killed izuna, which is why madara went mad!




Kidding bro, nice thread, I agree.
 

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Put the uchiha in a corner because Madara turned bad..... He never TRUSTED the Uchiha........ Kagami was a kid.... And also, him picking Hiruzen for Hokage was pure BS. It should've been up to the people to decide. Just like for Hashirama.

He was too obsessed with the "Physical village".. that he forgot what matters the most is the people inside the village.

Him wanting to "channel" their hate was a excuse for his fear of another Madara. However, people worst then Madara have come from the Leaf Village, and its Hokage didn't do anything about them. This is why saying the whole thing of "Uchiha are a clan possessed by evil" based on 1 person's action is BS.

Hence why Tobirama is the Hot-headed younger brother.
 
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lol, prevention is better than cure agree tobirama was really that kinda guy he really wanted peace . But the thing is he never trusted or had faith in madara which his elder brother has, and he always feared uchiha turned aganist them and luv n hate biology thing remember when he says hatred makes sharingan or uchihas stronger
 

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Very true..Tobirama always wanted peace for the village..if he hated the uchihas he would have them exterminated when he became the 2nd hokage but he didn't he even gave them a place of importance in the village.

Not really a place of importance, he needed to keep an eye on them.
 

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****ing thank you.

Btw, you need a Minato avatar.
Haha it will come soon, don't worry. Zoro is boss though :D

:devil: why would you make this thread when I just made a thread on Tobirama????? Just gonna steal my thread and make your own....... I hate you:dafq:
Why?? :(

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Explain that.
He simply made his choice before dying. Doesn't mean villagers will have the same choice
 
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