Tobirama is HERO !!!!

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He always know what loss is and that's the only reason he dont want any more back straps in this village , he only got one moto if you want peace 1.>take the red eyes down first 2.>reduce ramens taxes
 
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this is just a false statement. The Uchiha have been continuously punished for nothing. They were given a position in the village in which they would always be watched and given no trust and then years later they get tossed into a lonely part of the village and gets mistreated for the ninetails attack that they had nothing to do with. The village is more hateful than they are they just look like the bad guys because as a wise man once said "history is written by the victors"
you know why sage of 6 paths said "elder brother was key to peace but not the peace , love is the only think which will lead you to real peace "
 

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and i like the way you lie . Tobirama's just a heartless solider he knows what is coming towards them as you can see uchias always planed to take over after senju clans . Tobirama's always wanted them to not to cross the lines that's why he gave them role . so they can live there live peacefully
The village would have never existed in the first place if tobirama was in charge from the start. Also tobirama not wanting them to cross the line and the village utter lack of faith in them is what maid them want to betray the village. How could tobirama successfully prevent something that he was indirectly the cause of?
 

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you know why sage of 6 paths said "elder brother was key to peace but not the peace , love is the only think which will lead you to real peace "
Its ironic that you say that considering the fact that tobirama is a hostile man that lacks the love in his heart to trust the Uchiha. He thinks he is perventing the Uchiha from rebelling but ironically he is one of the very reasons they do.
 
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he was not the cause he was the cure of that things he never underestimated uchihas but the problem was with there eyes he knows that whenever uchihas loss love they will get more power and because of this power they will be pushed to darkness and try to gain more power and this will make them threat to village . at some point this have to be done so tobiramas just did it .
 

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You undermined your own statement by saying "Tobirama just wanted to secure his clan"...

The point of the village was to put that aside, and just have village shinobi who fight for the same cause. He wasn't able to trust the uchiha which is another one of his issues.

He isn't the savior of anything, the village at the time was the Uchiha and the Senju, without the Uchiha there would be no village. Tobirama didn't necessary help Hashirama.

Hashirama knew that political reasoning sometimes just isn't the best way to go!
 

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Tobirama was not for segregation or distrust. He gave the Uchuiha and important role because they were powerful and he wanted that to earn trust "Trust is not given, its earned"
Why is it that this base believes that Senju Clan fart rainbows, can do no wrong, and don't need to earn the trust of anyone despite Tobirama's obvious douche-baggery. BUT, Uchiha Clan and Madara, despite putting everything behind them, building the village, extending a hand of friendship is not trying to earn trust? Funny stuff.

One clan literally does just about everything to smooth things over and this man does basically nothing to accept peace. And yet he's a hero? Oh wow. Lol
 

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this guy has got the right idea.
Tobirama was hateful person and if he got his way the clans would have just continued battling each other. Batman gets results in a diff way from harvey dent. Tobirama's way gets no results unlike his brother who gave the world peace.

lol if he had "got his way" they would have killed madara then destroyed the rest of the uchiha and there wouldnt be any problems at all. Maybe that would have been the right call huh?
 

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why should they have to earn his trust and he does not have to earn theirs. He has just as much blood on his hand as any Uchiha and just as likely to betray them as they are likely to betray him.

Because the senju won thats why. Because the senju spared their lives thats why he doesnt have to earn it the losing side doesnt get to make demands
 
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