A common misconception about sasuke.

[orochitheoni]

I stopped liking Sasuke when he put his hand through Naruto's chest and ran off to Orochimaru having said that your points are valid. Now that Sasuke is seeking the truth and thinking for himself he is a little more likeable. Hopefully Kishi will allow The Third to give his account of the Uchiha Massacre and I'll wait for Sasuke's decision on the matter of the war.

 

[Sephy100]

None of your "evidence" matters, its all moot and still boils down to the fact that sasuke cant see the larger picture. Or he couldnt I believe he is starting to see the light now that hes talking to hashi. The example of him wanting to kill those men in the diner because they were bad mouthing itachi is a perfect example of my point. Those men knew nothing of what really happened only what they were told by their leaders and fellow shinobi and were simply making small talk about the information that they had at the time. In fact them wanting itachi dead just further shows that most people in the village respected the uchiha and didnt think that they deserved to be slaughtered the way they were. They had been told itachi was responsible (they had no reason to think otherwise) and felt that he was a traitor. How elese were they suppose to feel? How else should they react? However sasuke thinking that they deserve to be hurt for sticking up for his clan shows the over all childish nature of sasukes character. And sasuke still wants to kill hundreds (maybe thousands) of innocent villagers that know nothing of the coup or the real reason behind the slaughter, they just want to live in a village where they can raise their children and run a business but sasuke still finds them at fault. That doesnt make him a complex character it makes him a short sighted one, one that is only concerned for HIS FEELINGS and HIS GOALS and cant see the over all context of the events that lead to itachi being talked about in that manner. HE may not liek what they said as you stated no one wants to hear a loved one bing bad mouthed but sasuke does not get to decide what people say and who they talk about. Its not his place and his reasoning is flawed

He's still a teenager. It's called teenage angst. He's struggling to figure out what his role should be. That's why he's taking the initiative to learn. He even asked Oro the true reason why he attacked Konoha. He tried to get the entire truth from Itachi. He still cares about his comrades even if he uses them.
He's a conflicting character that shows the way that we as humans think. Obviously he's a fake character but how many of us can relate to the fact that we hate something one minute then we love it the next or vice versa. We hate one person to the point that we want to kill them but then we learn more about them and get over our anger and feel pity for them. Stop making it seem as though he's not supposed to have flawed reasoning when he's only 16 years old.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

I am a uchiha fan....but like the guy said all this was explain well already...we all knew the reason...this thread is pointless

It may be pointless to use dude, but seriously you don't know how common it is that lots of people don't get it.

 

[AlphaScythian]

And good point, he probably wouldn't. It was only a few moments after one of his friends died that he lost all faith. Losing 5 at once would destroy him.

And its not just about losing here, but atrocity danzo made, naruto wouldn't sleep again, ever.

 

[AirWind]

The temporary solution for sasuke just took a few stories to complete with, if u wanna change his mind, just tell him one amazing story and let see how his mind influenced after that.

 

[TrollingSage]

Nah. The biggest misconception is that Sasuke is a guy.

 

[AlphaScythian]

The temporary solution for sasuke just took a few stories to complete with, if u wanna change his mind, just tell him one amazing story and let see how his mind influenced after that.

Hehe, do u think hashirama is telling him amazing story right now?

 

[spike2068]

He's still a teenager. It's called teenage angst. He's struggling to figure out what his role should be. That's why he's taking the initiative to learn. He even asked Oro the true reason why he attacked Konoha. He tried to get the entire truth from Itachi. He still cares about his comrades even if he uses them.
He's a conflicting character that shows the way that we as humans think. Obviously he's a fake character but how many of us can relate to the fact that we hate something one minute then we love it the next or vice versa. We hate one person to the point that we want to kill them but then we learn more about them and get over our anger and feel pity for them. Stop making it seem as though he's not supposed to have flawed reasoning when he's only 16 years old.

Thats my point though!! He is flawed! He is in the wrong and many many people on this base try to act as if what he is doing is justified. Understandable, perhaps to a certain degree. But justified.....abosolutely not. Im not saying he isnt young im saying he needs to grow up. I am simply stating that his character and his whole point of view is flawed in almost every example of reasoning that he has demonstrated.

 

[Sephy100]

Thats my point though!! He is flawed! He is in the wrong and many many people on this base try to act as if what he is doing is justified. Understandable, perhaps to a certain degree. But justified.....abosolutely not. Im not saying he isnt young im saying he needs to grow up. I am simply stating that his character and his whole point of view is flawed in almost every example of reasoning that he has demonstrated.

He is justified because his whole clan was slaughtered by his own brother. His clan was ordered to death by a warmonger. The entire village villified his brother without knowing the full truth. He killed his own brother because of Danzo. The village is quick to change their minds for everything when it suits their needs. They spoke badly of the Uchiha & Itachi behind Sasuke's back. He had no family to live with. All these reasons would make a person go mad and twist their rational. He's trying to learn though so he's clearly trying to sort his feelings out. Stop saying he needs to grow up when this whole Madara & Hashi flashback is because he's growing up and trying to find the truh. If you can't see why he is justified in killing the village then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Thats my point though!! He is flawed! He is in the wrong and many many people on this base try to act as if what he is doing is justified. Understandable, perhaps to a certain degree. But justified.....abosolutely not. Im not saying he isnt young im saying he needs to grow up. I am simply stating that his character and his whole point of view is flawed in almost every example of reasoning that he has demonstrated.

Like i said in my thread, i'm not choosing sides but i was just simply stating why he wanted to destroy kohona, is deeper then just some selfish reason. Though i do agree he needs to grow up, Him re-thinking about destroying kohona and reviving the kages to help him is him kinda growing up.

 

[cptenn94]

i will just point out, that while you analyzed WHY sasuke thinks the way he does, he is still being a selfish emo, and wants to destroy everything his brother built with his sacrifice, just to make himself feel better. I dont love or hate sasuke, but honestly, that is how he is. Now after learning his brother truly loves him and wont hate him no matter what he does, sasuke is begining to reason, and understand, that itachi sacrificed himself for others. Now sasuke is trying to find the meaning behind WHY itachi chose to do what he did. I suspect that after talking to the hokages, he will change and be good, but then after meeting madara will got bad again, and then later fight naruto, and then in the end realize he should follow in his brothers footsteps.(naruto may as hokage shed the light about itachis sacrifice, and then that would take away a ton of sasukes hate)

dont forget, one of sasukes life goals is to create an new uchiha clan. After listening to hashi, he will want to create a curse of hatred free uchiha clan.

 

[U C H I H A]

Agreed - people misunderstand, Obito and Sasuke too much.

 

[~Zonta~]

Great thread bro and well structured one. Thanks for an awesome read

People just don't realize that Sasuke is a complicated character that represents a real person, unlike Naruto who is a one-dimensional character.

I agree that Sasuke sure is a complicated character but I disagree Naruto being One Dimensional character. Sasuke had a rough life for sure but same goes with Naruto as well. Itachi died for Sasuke and village so instead of proving Itachi died for the village Sasuke is going to destroy the village is this going to make Itachi a hero ?? Nope nor his name would be cleared.

Sasuke had his family till he was 7 but for Naruto he was alone his father and mother died for the village moreover Naruto was made a Jhichuurikki. He was treated like trash because of it for a reason which he was not responsible to begin with and had no one to support nor to console him. But he developed himself to become stronger and to become hokage.

Both had same options for choosing the path Naruto chose the path of righteousness where as Sasuke took path of darkness which was never intended by Itachi because he wanted Sasuke on righteous path.

 

[spike2068]

He is justified because his whole clan was slaughtered by his own brother. His clan was ordered to death by a warmonger. The entire village villified his brother without knowing the full truth. He killed his own brother because of Danzo. The village is quick to change their minds for everything when it suits their needs. They spoke badly of the Uchiha & Itachi behind Sasuke's back. He had no family to live with. All these reasons would make a person go mad and twist their rational. He's trying to learn though so he's clearly trying to sort his feelings out. Stop saying he needs to grow up when this whole Madara & Hashi flashback is because he's growing up and trying to find the truh. If you can't see why he is justified in killing the village then I don't know what to tell you.

Is there proof that they entire village talked trash behind his back about the uchiha? And how were they supposed to know the "whole truth" go and demand to know from a select group of ninja that they could never threaten or force into telling them? How exactly were they supposed to know? And how did talking about itachi suit their needs? What did anyone in the village gain from that? He is not justified revenge is never justified it is a selfish act point blank. It doesnt suit anyone but yourself and does nothing but hurt people who care about you along the way. Him killiing his brother was his own choice, he didnt have to go after itachi, he could have simply stayed and LISTENED to the people telling him to leave it alone. And the uchiha were ordered to death because of thier own plans. No coup=no killing. and there were those that did not want to kill the uchiha, that wanted to try to resolve things diplomatically but more of the leaders opted for action instead. Do the children and grand children of those that stuck up for the uchiha and those that had no idea what was going on deserve to die for something they had nothing to do with. To say yes simply shows the shortsightedness and selfishness of your argument. He is not justified, and even after this talk with the kages if he still attempts destruction he wont succeed since even the writer of the story knows thats not how it should happen. I dont think he will attempt it anymore which makes his character urk me a little less but his previous form of thinking was akin to a child throwing a very big tantrum to me.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Great thread bro and well structured one. Thanks for an awesome read

Your welcome, and thanks for the constructive criticism

 

[spike2068]

Like i said in my thread, i'm not choosing sides but i was just simply stating why he wanted to destroy kohona, is deeper then just some selfish reason. Though i do agree he needs to grow up, Him re-thinking about destroying kohona and reviving the kages to help him is him kinda growing up.

Agreed, now that he is beginning to actually use logic in his decision he isnt as unlikable as before

 

[spike2068]

Great thread bro and well structured one. Thanks for an awesome read



I agree that Sasuke sure is a complicated character but I disagree Naruto being One Dimensional character. Sasuke had a rough life for sure but same goes with Naruto as well. Itachi died for Sasuke and village so instead of proving Itachi died for the village Sasuke is going to destroy the village is this going to make Itachi a hero ?? Nope nor his name would be cleared.

Sasuke had his family till he was 7 but for Naruto he was alone his father and mother died for the village moreover Naruto was made a Jhichuurikki. He was treated like trash because of it for a reason which he was not responsible to begin with and had no one to support nor to console him. But he developed himself to become stronger and to become hokage.

Both had same options for choosing the path Naruto chose the path of righteousness where as Sasuke took path of darkness which was never intended by Itachi because he wanted Sasuke on righteous path.

Exactly! Sasuke did have a hard time but so did naruto and countless others in the village, hell iruka watched his family die by the hands of the fox and still got over it like a man and trained naruto

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

i especially love when they said oh but naruto got over hatred and revenge, sasuke should too, he has no excuse.

Now i wonder, if naruto faced a guy who had his arm full of father, mother, jiraya, kakashi, iruka and sakura eyes. How would naruto do?
Would he get over it?

naruto had person to he him get rid of that hatred but sasuke he is only pushed deeper into it

 

[Cascade]

i dont understand why anybody is giving this guy props...sure he put together a nice thread with proof...but he proved something that everybody already knew...if you guys are actually amazed or have come to a realisation because of this thread...maybe ur too young to be watching Naruto...Go watch Fairy Tail...

 

[Naruto9001]

People just don't realize that Sasuke is a complicated character that represents a real person, unlike Naruto who is a one-dimensional character.

Naruto isn't a one dimensional character, just because someone chooses the path of evil dosen't make them a complicated character. Obito choose to destroy the world because of one of the most simplest things. If you want to know what a complicated character is watch Berserk.

Agreed - people misunderstand, Obito and Sasuke too much.

What is there to misunderstand when you try to kill your sensei, his wife and his son, put paper tags on a baby, unleash Kurama on everyone and start a war because your best friend killed your crush.