is madara the next SO6P

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....So why can't he create a new body for himself and use that to become the jinchuriki of the 10 tails?

Much detail on the techniques hasn't been reviled but what is know is that even with this technique the Sage couldn't defeat the juubi and was forced to seal it into himself. Creating a new body wouldn't change anything. His soul needs to be placed into the original body, which is something that can only be done with Rinne Tensei.
 

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Much detail on the techniques hasn't been reviled but what is know is that even with this technique the Sage couldn't defeat the juubi and was forced to seal it into himself. Creating a new body wouldn't change anything. His soul needs to be placed into the original body, which is something that can only be done with Rinne Tensei.

Rinne Tensei is something he should have then, isn't it?

There doesn't seem much room to speculate. "creates imagination into reality".
 

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No, So6p can defeat him and he won't be the Juubi's Jinchuriki.
 

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hashiramas basic wood dome protected him from bijudama & you're claiming that shinsuusenju will be one-shotted despite the fact that bijudamas blast radius is relatively small compared to it.
Bijudama's blast radius covered susanoo, kurama, and all mokuton, its not that small. Make a bigger bijudama and it will hurt alot.
nobody was talking about perfect susano & if the tactic you are talking about couldve worked then madara wouldnt have lost at VOTE.
Thats stupidest argument u can bring here. Manga has lots of PIS/CIS.
Here is the example for ya. Madara used normal sword to finish hashirama, hashi caught it with wooden hands. If madara used sword slash from the start he'd win. Also TBB didnt explode upon rashoumon (very convenient), not to mention that beam bijudama wouldnt backfire on madara.

Bottom line, madara never lacked power to kill hashi, and while SM is great, madara could've easily exploited the time u need to enter it.
 
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nobody is ever coming close to SO6P's level. I took the word "close" literally
 

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@ Immortal Itachi: Using Rinne Tensei on yourself is futile as it requires a life, something an edo doesn't have to give. His soul is already in the impure world...Rinne tensei would basically be relocating it to the original body.
 

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@ Immortal Itachi: Using Rinne Tensei on yourself is futile as it requires a life, something an edo doesn't have to give. His soul is already in the impure world...Rinne tensei would basically be relocating it to the original body.

Hey it's P.D.G, haven't seen you in a while
 

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@ Immortal Itachi: Using Rinne Tensei on yourself is futile as it requires a life, something an edo doesn't have to give. His soul is already in the impure world...Rinne tensei would basically be relocating it to the original body.

Where does it say Rinne Tensei requires you to give your life?
 

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He might have the sO6P power, but he won't be the SO6P
 

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Well he has the Rinnegan and the body (Senju DNAAA) but, he hasn't shown anything close to "creation of all things" or "defeating a freaking god" so the best you could say is that right now he (although he is a little dead) is the best anti-Sage.

But seriously, this "next So6P" is beginning to become something like the "god of the shinobi".
 

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Bijudama's blast radius covered susanoo, kurama, and all mokuton, its not that small. Make a bigger bijudama and it will hurt alot.
you didnt explain how hashiramas basic wood dome took a bijudama & wasnt even scratched yet shinsuusenju gets one-shotted.
Thats stupidest argument u can bring here. Manga has lots of PIS/CIS.
Here is the example for ya. Madara used normal sword to finish hashirama, hashi caught it with wooden hands. If madara used sword slash from the start he'd win. Also TBB didnt explode upon rashoumon (very convenient), not to mention that beam bijudama wouldnt backfire on madara.
Bottom line, madara never lacked power to kill hashi, and while SM is great, madara could've easily exploited the time u need to enter it.

the bold is the dumbest argument you can bring. once something happens in the manga, all debate about the subject ceases.

hashirama canonically evaded the sword slash so what you said is very pointless.

tbb doesnt just instantly explode. it is able to be caught & redirected.

yes madara lacks the power to kill hashirama.
 

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That scan seems to suggest that one is able to survive Rinne Tensei with proper chakra levels. Perhaps Obito's is imperfect because he has only one eye, or his chakra is too low, so he'll die from the technique?
 

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yes madara lacks the power to kill hashirama.


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Madara is able to to make 25 mokuton clones, all wielding the rinnegan and EMS not to mention respective abilities for each doujutsu but also the ability to act co-ordinately without madara's actual presence. Based on Mokuton's composition Pretapath will render it useless on contact and this goes for each clone. Madara has already stated that his EMS is able to see throuhgh hashirama's mokuton bunshin and also has the abilitiy to anticipate attacks.

Given that he has his edo abilities, he is able to use all the jutsu he copied from hashirama and possibly to the extents of shinshuusenju as Senjutsu only acts as an amplifier for the technique, and Mokuton itself possesses similar biological function to that of Jugo; given it's composition of course. Added to this, the rinnegan is a greater potential threat in comparison with the kyuubi, which hashirama himself stated was overwhelming. At the end of the day, EMS renders Bringer of darkness useless and Hashirama has no arsenal to counter Madara and his mokuton//rinnegan wielding bunshins. Hashirama canonically bested EMS Madara in his prime at high difficulties. His Edo-tensei form however is far beyond what he was capable of at vote; Madara would take this quite comfortably as he canonically has full knowledge of what hashirama is capable of.

Pertaining to the statement you've misinterpreted about "Full power" I would believe you can use a dictionary. If not bear in mind that "Power" is the ability to do something. Uchiha madara based on power accomplishments; Perfect susano'o is technically his full power hence the statement but in this case the topic is his edo state, as in it, he is able to do much more and to add that it has been canonically stated that his edo-state is beyond his prime when he possessed this power, perfect susano'o. Which nullifies your argument.

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That scan seems to suggest that one is able to survive Rinne Tensei with proper chakra levels. Perhaps Obito's is imperfect because he has only one eye, or his chakra is too low, so he'll die from the technique?

Credibility. Character statements have been proven wrong many times and an example was konan saying the rinnegan is a treasure of Amegakure and they were nagato's eyes. Any information she wields. Konan's statement was mere speculation, she has no knowledge of the rinnengan's techniques nor their rudiments being that only those who are able to decipher the Uchiha stone tablet with their Sharingan, knows of the Sage's secrets and the Rinnegan. Nagato has never read the tablet himself. She bears no credibility hence, Obito's statement that he most likely recited from Madara himself, that the Requirement of Rinne Tensei are the users soul over-rules konan's assumption.
 
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