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Yes. Don't underestimate your opponent, I won many battles when I was a genin because people used to underestimate me.

Also, be wary of your surroundings, as you can use them to empower your own jutsus and defeat your opponent.

Should we continue?
 

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Yo, I'll be taking over your training from here on as I am Lili's senpai. It's been almost a month since you've had a reply so I'll try to catch you up to speed a lil bit to make up for lost time. You can check my profile for my status and what not in terms of training schedual. In the week, coming up I'll be reviewing everything Lili taught you and then I'll respond. Since Lightning is my speciality in teaching, this will be a little easier for us to get through.
 

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Alright, so you've been through the general training method that Lili and I use so this will be an easy transition. There are a few things I do differently from what Lili does. From this point onward, with the remaining methods, here is how the layout of the lessons will be.

(1) I will give you the method and explain to you, in depth, what the method entails and then allow for any questions of clarrification

(2) I will give you bullet points of words/phrases that I will ask you to define/explain that will show me if you understand this method if I am satisfied with your explanations, we will continue. If not I will have you tweak them.

(3) I will then post all the jutsu within the category with full explinations and then you will have to do the following
~Explain the Advantages of the Method
~Explain the Disadvantages of the Method
~Discuss Strategies you could use with jutsu from this method
If I'm satisfied with these three aspects, we will continue and repeat the cycle from the top.

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Alrighty then, onto the next method.
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Method 2: Currents/Wide Spread

The techniques in this next method all adhere to constant waves or currents of lightning, meaning you're constantly placing chakra into the technique as opposed to projectiles where you gather all your chakra and then release it all in one/several condensed shots. This is where the element gets into the real conductive nature of Lightning. In gathering your chakra for these techniques you will start like you would any other technique, you gather the fixed amount of chakra in the point of release. However, instead of releasing it in a confined condensed projectile you release a constant flow of lightning from the point of release and, generally through a medium like the ground, a weapon, or an object. You will not be releasing your chakra all at once, it will be flowing out of you from the point of release in a steady manor until the chakra you've built up for the technique is gone. Since you're focusing less on condensing the chakra and more on spreading it out to cover a wider range, this takes away from force and peircing ability and you get more of the electrocution properties. The techniques in this method are more so designed to have that stunning and overloading the body with lightning.

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In that case, describe to me how you would perform the following

  • Using your hands as medium to create a wave of lightning on the ground
  • Create a stream of chakra through a blade increasing it's sharpness
  • Coat yourself in lightning chakra from head to to like armor
 

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First I would channel lightning based chakra into my hands by performing the necessary hands seals. After I have done so I slam my palms down on the ground and send out pulses of electric energy flowing through it. Here is a custom jutsu I created with this method in mind:
(Raiton: Denki sonā) - Electric Sonar
Type: Supplementary
Rank: D
Range: 2.5 km radius (roughly 3 miles)
Chakra Cost:20
Damage Points:N/A
Description:User claps hands together, forms the hand sign Snake, and then presses their palm on the ground sending out a pulse of electric energy imbued with their chakra into the ground giving them the ability to know what general direction an opponent is in. It is a great counter against jutsu aimed at impairing vision, such as the Kirigakure no jutsu because no one has the ability to suppress the electrical pulses given off by the human body.
Note: Can only be used by Ryuken and those taught by Alchemist.
Note: Is not effective against speed enhanced shinobi such as Maito Guy and Rock Lee.
Note: Last for only three turns

I hope that jutsu illustrates my understanding of the method.

In regards to the second way to use the method I would stream lightning based chakra through a specialized chakra blade. By using the rapid vibrations of the protons that make up lightning I would add peircing power to the blade as well as the conductivity lightning provides making it a doubly dangerous weapon. The lightning also would add to the defense of the weapon making it more durable.

And lastly I would again make the necessary hand seals to focus my chakra and would have it seep for lack of a better term out of my pores making contact with my flesh nearly impossible without inflicting damage upon my opponent.
Here is another jutsu of my making that I hope illustrates what I mean:
(Raiton:Sutatikku shokku shōkōgun) Static Shock Syndrome
Type: Attack
Rank: C
Range: short-mid
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 30
Description: After rapidly making the hand signs Snake, Dragon, Sheep, Boar, Snake the user pours electricity from his open pores into those of his opponents sending needle sharp pain throughout their body.
Note: Can only be used by Ryuken and those taught by Alchemist.
Note: For those of the same nin rank or lower the opponent suffers -10 damage points for three turns.
Note: Weakens the visual acuity of opponents for three turns.

Is that sufficient Senpai?
 

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Yes, it'll suffice

Method 2

(Raiton: Raikou Oonami) - Lightning Release: Lightning Surge
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.

(Raiton: Sandaa Saaburu) - Lightning Style: Thunder Saber
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range:Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: Hits opponent with an electric field shield that explodes and can blow back the enemy.

(Raiton: Jibashi) - Lightning Release: Electromagnetic Murder
Rank: C
Type: Offense
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30 (+5 if used in conjunction with a water jutsu)
Description: This jutsu allows the user to create a wave of electricity from the user's hands. This jutsu can vary in power from a small surge to shock an opponent to a powerful stream of lightning capable of ripping through solid rock. It is ideal to use in conjunction with a water jutsu.

(Raiton: Raigeki no Yoroi) - Lightning Release: Lightning Strike Armour
Rank: C
Type: Offense/Defence
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: The user surrounds themselves with electricity. The intense electric field protects them by electrocuting anyone who comes into contact with it, but only works for one attack.

(Raiton: Iwa Nadare) - Lightning Style: Stone Avalanche
Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Descripton: By forming hand seals Snake → Upside down Tiger → Hands clapped together and running up a cliff face, the user causes stone and rock above him to become dislodged and rain down past him onto his opponents below by releasing a wave of electrical energy. However, this is extremely location-based and needs to be done uphill of a mountain for it to work

(Raiton: Ikazuchi no Kiba) - Lightning Release: Lightning Fang
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Mid
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user sends an electrical essence into the clouds, allowing them to create lightning strikes in the desired location.

(Raiton: Kangekiha) – Lightning Release: Wave of Inspiration
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 25
Damage point: 30 (normally) 50 (when used in conjunction with water technique)
Description: After using a Water Style technique, the user releases a wave of electricity that can electrocute any water within range, electrocuting and knocking back an opponent in contact with the water. When used without a water technique, its power is moderate. The technique can be used extremely quickly, so that it finishes almost in conjunction with the previous jutsu.

(Raiton: Ikazuchi no Utage) - Lightning Release: Lightning Burial ~ Banquet of Lightning
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Mid/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user brings their hands together and an electrical energy will begin to crackle around them. They will then slam their hands to the ground to send an electric current racing through the earth. When the current approaches its target, it can split into multiple tendrils to attack separate targets individually.

(Raiton: Hiraishin) – Lightning Release: Flying Thunder God
Rank: B
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user raises their hands to the air to draw in lightning chakra from the sky and then shoot the lightning energy at the enemy target.

(Chō Biburāto Raitontō) - Super Vibrating Lightning Release Sword
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A (+15 to kenjutsu and standard attacks)
Description: The user channels their lightning chakra into a blade, increasing its vibrating frequency and giving it more cutting power than standard wind techniques.

(Raiton: Dai Denki hōden no Jutsu ) - Lightning Release: Large Electrical Discharge Technique
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: By Performing the ram hand seal the user will manipulate their chakra and they then raise their hand to the sky and an electrical discharge is triggered shocking the target.

(Raiton: Shuriken Seigyo no Jutsu) - Lightning Release: Shuriken Control Technique
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user will take out two large shuriken or Windmill Shuriken and channel their raiton chakra into them. They will then throw them at their target to pin them down and maintain a connection with the shuriken through a electrical cable that delivers a numbing shock to paralyse the target and restrict their movements.
Note: Numbing Effect lasts for one turn.

(Raiton: Ikazuchi Hakai) – Lightning Release: Lightning Destruction
Rank: A
Type: Attack
Range: Short – Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: After performing a small sequence of hand seals the user will place their hand on the ground converting their chakra in to lightning. The user then sends an enormous bolt of electricity that cuts through the ground in the direction of the enemy. The shape of the bolt is a triangular with the base in the direction of the user and the tip headed towards the target. It causes devastating destruction on its way and generates enough heat and power to destroy whatever it comes into contact with.

(Raiton: Sanda Appu) – Lightning Release: Thunder Up
Rank: A
Type: Offence
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: The user concentrates a lot of lightning chakra into their hand and compressing it into a ball of energy and then releases it at once, causing a huge explosion.

(Raiton: Raiden) - Lightning Release: Lightning Chain
Rank: S
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 40
Damage points: 80
Description:This technique requires the user to firstly create a shadow clone, each of them then activate the Lightning Cutter on opposite hands to one another. Connecting the two techniques together, forming a chain of sorts, they are then able to use the resulting beam to slice through objects with great ease.
Note: Must first perform the shadow clone technique.

Before we progress, do you have any questions about the list of techniques here?
 

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Yes, it'll suffice

Method 2

(Raiton: Raikou Oonami) - Lightning Release: Lightning Surge
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.

(Raiton: Sandaa Saaburu) - Lightning Style: Thunder Saber
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range:Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: Hits opponent with an electric field shield that explodes and can blow back the enemy.

(Raiton: Jibashi) - Lightning Release: Electromagnetic Murder
Rank: C
Type: Offense
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30 (+5 if used in conjunction with a water jutsu)
Description: This jutsu allows the user to create a wave of electricity from the user's hands. This jutsu can vary in power from a small surge to shock an opponent to a powerful stream of lightning capable of ripping through solid rock. It is ideal to use in conjunction with a water jutsu.

(Raiton: Raigeki no Yoroi) - Lightning Release: Lightning Strike Armour
Rank: C
Type: Offense/Defence
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: The user surrounds themselves with electricity. The intense electric field protects them by electrocuting anyone who comes into contact with it, but only works for one attack.

(Raiton: Iwa Nadare) - Lightning Style: Stone Avalanche
Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Descripton: By forming hand seals Snake → Upside down Tiger → Hands clapped together and running up a cliff face, the user causes stone and rock above him to become dislodged and rain down past him onto his opponents below by releasing a wave of electrical energy. However, this is extremely location-based and needs to be done uphill of a mountain for it to work

(Raiton: Ikazuchi no Kiba) - Lightning Release: Lightning Fang
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Mid
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user sends an electrical essence into the clouds, allowing them to create lightning strikes in the desired location.

(Raiton: Kangekiha) – Lightning Release: Wave of Inspiration
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 25
Damage point: 30 (normally) 50 (when used in conjunction with water technique)
Description: After using a Water Style technique, the user releases a wave of electricity that can electrocute any water within range, electrocuting and knocking back an opponent in contact with the water. When used without a water technique, its power is moderate. The technique can be used extremely quickly, so that it finishes almost in conjunction with the previous jutsu.

(Raiton: Ikazuchi no Utage) - Lightning Release: Lightning Burial ~ Banquet of Lightning
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Mid/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user brings their hands together and an electrical energy will begin to crackle around them. They will then slam their hands to the ground to send an electric current racing through the earth. When the current approaches its target, it can split into multiple tendrils to attack separate targets individually.

(Raiton: Hiraishin) – Lightning Release: Flying Thunder God
Rank: B
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user raises their hands to the air to draw in lightning chakra from the sky and then shoot the lightning energy at the enemy target.

(Chō Biburāto Raitontō) - Super Vibrating Lightning Release Sword
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A (+15 to kenjutsu and standard attacks)
Description: The user channels their lightning chakra into a blade, increasing its vibrating frequency and giving it more cutting power than standard wind techniques.

(Raiton: Dai Denki hōden no Jutsu ) - Lightning Release: Large Electrical Discharge Technique
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: By Performing the ram hand seal the user will manipulate their chakra and they then raise their hand to the sky and an electrical discharge is triggered shocking the target.

(Raiton: Shuriken Seigyo no Jutsu) - Lightning Release: Shuriken Control Technique
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user will take out two large shuriken or Windmill Shuriken and channel their raiton chakra into them. They will then throw them at their target to pin them down and maintain a connection with the shuriken through a electrical cable that delivers a numbing shock to paralyse the target and restrict their movements.
Note: Numbing Effect lasts for one turn.

(Raiton: Ikazuchi Hakai) – Lightning Release: Lightning Destruction
Rank: A
Type: Attack
Range: Short – Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: After performing a small sequence of hand seals the user will place their hand on the ground converting their chakra in to lightning. The user then sends an enormous bolt of electricity that cuts through the ground in the direction of the enemy. The shape of the bolt is a triangular with the base in the direction of the user and the tip headed towards the target. It causes devastating destruction on its way and generates enough heat and power to destroy whatever it comes into contact with.

(Raiton: Sanda Appu) – Lightning Release: Thunder Up
Rank: A
Type: Offence
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: The user concentrates a lot of lightning chakra into their hand and compressing it into a ball of energy and then releases it at once, causing a huge explosion.

(Raiton: Raiden) - Lightning Release: Lightning Chain
Rank: S
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 40
Damage points: 80
Description:This technique requires the user to firstly create a shadow clone, each of them then activate the Lightning Cutter on opposite hands to one another. Connecting the two techniques together, forming a chain of sorts, they are then able to use the resulting beam to slice through objects with great ease.
Note: Must first perform the shadow clone technique.

Before we progress, do you have any questions about the list of techniques here?
Just one. Will I have to wait until I become an S-class nin before I can use the S rank jutsu?
 

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Yes, though, once you become an S-ranked ninja you'll get the S-ranked techniques auto I won't have to show them to you again.
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Now I want you to do the following

~Explain the Advantages of the Method
~Explain the Disadvantages of the Method
~Discuss Strategies you could use with jutsu from this method
 

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The main advantage of the method is obviously the wide spread nature of the attacks making it difficult to dodge or counter depending on ones oponent. Of course the disadvantage would be the fact that if your opponent can counter or somehow dodge then the it can leave you open to attacks.
The way I would use the method is shown in the link below, though I lost this sparring session I feel that I held my own despite my limited experience.
 

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The link doesn't work, it blocks me from accessing it so I can't see what you have. Also there is a tremendous lack of detail and explanation on the advanteges and disadvantages. These are rather obvious and shallow layouts that can be applied to any situation or any form of techniques. There are specifics about this element and specific method that you're not seeing. Look through the training again and the techniques and do this over again. Need help, just ask.
 

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The link doesn't work, it blocks me from accessing it so I can't see what you have. Also there is a tremendous lack of detail and explanation on the advanteges and disadvantages. These are rather obvious and shallow layouts that can be applied to any situation or any form of techniques. There are specifics about this element and specific method that you're not seeing. Look through the training again and the techniques and do this over again. Need help, just ask.
I think I may need some help for this method.
 

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Alrighty then. As far as advanteges go think of what the disadvanteges of the first method. In the first method techniques are self sustaining therefore you cannot control them once you release them right? What can you do with these techniques that you can't do with projectiles.

As for disadvanteges think about how I said youhave to use your chakra for techniques like this and then answer his question, would you be able to use other techniques while you're using this one?

Think a little bit more and give and use those tips and then give me a response. Then try to think of some strategies
 

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The main advantage of this method is it's ability to be widespread. Unlike the first method which is condensed in a small and general area, the second method can take up a wide range making accuracy (though still important) less necessary. Also you can cancel these jutsu even if already released while projectiles are usually launched or used at close range.
The main disadvantage is the need to constantly monitor the jutsu and to continue to stream currents through your body. Though streams can be used from mid-long range, they can give ones opponent ample time to react and counter them.
I've since used a few of the jutsu you have shown me in a sparring session. The best application I can find for the stream form of raiton jutsu is to try to constantly keep my opponent off guard and at a distance while I further formulate a strategy:
I would first use (Raiton: Dai Denki hōden no Jutsu ) - Lightning Release: Large Electrical Discharge Technique
to keep my opponent at a distance while I formulate my plan for attack. Next I would circle my opponent at mid range and release (Raiton: Ikazuchi Hakai) – Lightning Release: Lightning Destruction
following closely in it's wake toward my opponent. While they are focusing on this jutsu I would draw my sword and activate the (Chō Biburāto Raitontō) - Super Vibrating Lightning Release Sword
acticking them while they are already off balance and in theory increasing my chances for a successful strike.
 

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Excellent on the advantages and disadvantages.

Now for your strategies, I understand the whole, formulating a strategy but the thing with the RP, in fights you have time to think of a strategy before you actually conduct your move. From what you said, distancing your opponent to come up with a strategy, and then coming up with a strategy where you'd want to come close range, is rather wasteful when you can just use the time contemplating what you want to do for your next move before you post it and then go close range. That being said, if you want to go close range, you keep your opponent close to you, if you want to distances them than you do that.

With your strategy it seems you'd like to distract them while you attack them from another angle or plane. That is a common and basic strategy. That doesn't mean it's bad, it's good actually, however, you just need to know how to do so. Battle are all about trying to get your opponent to make that one fatal mistake. In most battles now a days, it's all about the win, everybody wants to kill quickly. There's no poetic fighting anymore, catch your opponent off guard to injure them. Not enough to incapacitate them, but merely make it harder for them to fight. Also people want to kill kill kill, never capture, or weaken, or knock out, or toy with.

Anyway that's a peeve of mine everybody has their own method. And for future reference, when I ask you to make strategies, you do not have to feel as though you're obligated to stay with techniques just from this element. I want you to tell me how you would use these elements but you can also talk about how you'd use these techniques with other elements or techniques. Everything is all about the right combinations and right timing. using all of one element only serves to harm you, as It would be all to easy to just use one or two wind techniques to counter a complete three move turn of lightning jutsu (speaking purely of canon here). Since I've made you wait long enough I won't ask you to re-make this strategy, I'll just expect more from you next time around.

One more thing, you can also think defensively, think of how an opponent may attack you and then you come up with a defense/counter. Just throwing that out there ^^

Questions?
 
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