Ho boy. This is a pretty big ass reply. At least you broke your response down into paragraphs, Calibro.
And that coming from the guy who has been on a hating spree for weeks now, finding any kind of excuse justified to just whine and complain to the point you even started bashing something so insignificant and redundant as the voting polls for two weeks straight? How are you going to explain that without being butthurt yourself? I'm not the one who can't accept that people don't share mine opinion and for that claim that they are wearing "obsessive, ignorant goggles".
I would say that this whole section has boiled down to a "I'm not a hater/fanboy!" defense where we're both just calling each other fanboys/haters, but you really don't seem like a fanboy. Which is kind of respectable. It's really just me trying to show that I'm not a hater here. The last few chapters I've been very negative/critical of, because as it so happens the last few chapters have been very poor. The arc as a whole has also been very poor. If we were in the Edolas arc or the Tower of Heaven arc, I'd be doing nothing but praising the chapters. Your perception of me as a hater isn't unjustified as I have been criticizing a lot lately, but I assure you there was a time when I had no criticisms to make about Fairy Tail. I didn't know that every other section was like that with their polls, but yeah, I just still think it's stupid overall to vote five out of five on literally every chapter. Guess I don't need to make the same complaint on a weekly basis, but I don't want this to happen either.
You are a hater pur sang if you call people fanboys just because they like how FT is right now, even more so when you actually bash stuff like polls. The fact that you even deny that, only proves that. Even more so when you start lying. Not only are you a hater, you are also a lier too as I stated on numerous occasions that I can perfectly understand that some people wouldn't like how FT is right now as that's a personal and subjective opinion just as I understand that people like how it is now. That's something that can't be said of you as what are doing right now is not "valid criticisms" as apparently saying that everyone who liked this chapter is a fanboy and that they are wearing "obsessive, ignorant goggles". That's not valid criticism, that's just you hating as I'm not insecure about my tastes, you are forcing your tastes on other people as I like those "faults" you are talking about. You consider them something, I something positive and I always accepted you. You on the other hand do not and you're too much of a child to even recognize it or to accept it. Who is actually wearing here these goggles?
This part really confuses me. Me denying that I'm a hater makes me a hater? Haha what? Maybe I misunderstood this though. Anyway, I have absolutely no problems with people saying they like Fairy Tail. They just have to have good reasons for it. One good reason to continue to like Fairy Tail is because Hiro Mashima is such a good artist. Every chapter manages to have stellar artwork. However, I can't really think of any good reasons to call the last few chapters, especially 324, PERFECT chapters. The time travel plot established makes absolutely no sense and is just downright confusing. The death of Future Lucy was forced and essentially fake drama. It's really hard to feel much of anything over her death. How could you give a perfect score to a chapter that doesn't make any sense? THAT doesn't make sense.
My statements about obsessive/ignorant goggles were in general and not directed at you. I wasn't saying you in particular were insecure about your tastes either. I'm just speaking generally, that if you can't handle criticism, you're insecure. There are people here and on numerous other communities about FT who have said things like "Okay I don't understand what's going on with this time travel story.......five stars." It's this attitude that upsets me. Fanboys/girls will always exist and they will always frustrate me. Just because it has the name Fairy Tail on it does
not make it quality. This is one thing people have to recognize. You should always, always ALWAYS look at the positives and negatives of anything you enjoy so as to support your opinion of the series. I'll give you an example: I'm a fan of Naruto/Naruto Shippuden and despite all the cringeworthy people in the community, I'll defend it and use it as a reference for other series I enjoy. But if you came up to me with legit reasons and said "I didn't like Shippuden because none of the secondary characters like Rock Lee got much screentime" then that's a completely valid complaint to make and I'll even agree. In contrast with the Fairy Tail community, no one is looking at the negatives at all, and anytime people do, they're dismissed as haters and all of their criticisms are ignored. Perhaps I'm conveying my message in the wrong way, but it's very frustrating to see a circlejerk mentality.
You are a hater. You can say how much you dislike each and every chapter that has been and that has yet to come to your hart contents as long as you do it in a respectful way and don't use any offensive language. You however have no the right to insult or bash people just because they don't agree with your opinion as you have been hating on people just because they don't share your pessimistic vision and find FT fine as it is.
Well yeah, saying you were butthurt is a bit out of place. I understand ya on that one. Once again, I'm not a "hater", I just haven't found any valid reasons to enjoy this series or any chapters again aside from the good artwork Mashima continues to put out there. I wouldn't call myself a pessimist about Fairy Tail, but Hiro Mashima sure has done a good job snuffing out optimism I've had for this series. Best example: Sting giving up. How can you give your fans hope like that, that Sting could finally be the character to end the cycle of friendship powerups and Fairy Tail always winning, and have him wipe the floor with FT in a 1v5, only to drop him and have him give up without even putting up a fight? Things like these are why I can't be optimistic.
Once again you are being extremely subjective. Consistently good? In the case of OP and Naruto I could personally still go with that, however with Bleach? Then you have just proven what I said, namely that you are being extremely subjective as IMO Bleach isn't even close in being "consistently good", still people keep voting 5 stars. The point is that you are whining about it in FT, while people do exactly the same in the other threads and did you complain about it there? If not then you are a hater as you only complained about it in the FT threads just because it's FT and you don't like it. That's hating alright as the situation is exactly the same in the other threads as once again you refuse to accept that there are people who simply liked these chapters while analyzing it.
Yeah you're right, this is pretty subjective. I personally would call those series consistently good, especially Bleach because I love it, but it's really about FT here and not those.
I don't really keep up with any other series or feel like posting in discussion threads about them. All I'm doing now is catching up on One Piece and waiting for the Bleach anime to return. So yeah, the only series I'm really involved in is OP, and I'm only 97 episodes in. Therefore I don't really post in any other sections. But if there's consistent circlejerking when some chapters are in fact ass, then yeah, that's a problem in any other section too. I don't hold double standards.
I accept that there are people who like it and that there are who don't. You don't accept that people like it. Who ever said we don't look at the negative stuff? I can't speak for everyone, however I know I'm not the only one who actually likes the stuff you are bashing and thus there is no reason for us criticize those things. I'm not going to claim I liked everything for a 100%, but neither has there ever been a reason to start giving severe criticism. Likewise we could say you didn't look at the positive stuff and that you are only searching for ways to give critics. Not to mention whatever is positive and negative is subjective, something you just refuse to accept. You are yourself extremely biased as the situation you are describing here is the same as in the other threads. Of course when you have more people, you have a larger variety of answers but that's the way it is.
The only other people I see posting anything critical is maybe CrimsonFire. That's it. You did say that the time travel is confusing, but you didn't indicate your rating of the chapter or illustrate whether or not you think the confusing time travel story is good or bad. I cannot see how you haven't found a reason to not give criticism of the series. There have been many things to criticize about the series, like how Erza's recent powerup LITERALLY breaks every magic rule established in the entire series and serves only as a cheap way for Erza to win a fight that she had no logical way of winning. In my Tenrou/Post-Tenrou thread, I stated many positives about the series, such as how Laxus returning to fight Hades was awesome or how Acnologia destroying Tenrou was super cool. There just hasn't been anything to be positive about lately.
So in the end yes you are hater. So this is my final warning and I repeat myself for a 100th time you can find this the worst manga in history, I don't care about that, that's your personal and subjective opinion. But you have absolutely no right to start enforcing that subjective opinion to bash on other people who oppose it as just because people thought this was a great chapter and arc, you started harassing them including an administrator. So if I were you I would start considering my words a lot more carefully as it remains a fact you provoked people verbally just because they liked this chapter and arc. You are free to criticize the chapter and arc, but not the members who don't share the same opinion.
Fair enough, I'll try to ease up on my wording. However I don't really get why you brought up the fact that you're an administrator, lol...that makes no difference to me. No one gets any special treatment from me unless they're my friend or they've earned my respect.
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