Nagato or BM Naruto?

[lanakui8]

You say debate honestly and you're making up numbers.

Anyone and EVERYONE who looks at my post will see that my numbers are in no way shape or form made up, I have PROVEN that they are true by the canonical mechanics of shadow clone jutsu.

So once again, unless you can show how my reasoning is invalid, your assertion that i am "making up numbers" is completely and utterly false.

Here i'll even post the evidence for you again:


And explicit proof that Naruto had less than 7% of his KCM chakra:
- just holding the KCM cloak drains naruto's KCM reserves, and after holding it for just a chapter the drain is significant enough for kurama to tell naruto

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- from that point on, KCM Naruto spams his chakra cloak for 12 hour straight, plays tag with ei and defeats the white zetsu army, then

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- then he spends more time holding the KCM cloak and then arrives to fight edo itachi and nagato.

so if he starts at 100% at night, held that for 12 hours and divided his remaining chakra by 13+, you arrive at less than 7% chakra.

now tell me what is wrong with the reasoning I have used to get to those numbers?

Debate honestly child.

 

[Zexion~]

base naruto bracing himself against the technique says hi.

FRS travelling across an entire mountain range in 1 second says being sent flying doesn't matter, nagato is still very much blitzable in between shinra tenseis.

Lol the 100 other shadow clones helping him brace for it say whats up? lol im not saying that you cant brace it but when people say that it wont hurt you doesnt mean it would send you across the terain

 

[lanakui8]

You my good sir are an idiot :|

Once again calling someone "an idiot" is in no way shape or form an argument, and thus since you have completely ignored my arguments, you have conceded them.

 

[lanakui8]

Lol the 100 other shadow clones helping him brace for it say whats up? lol im not saying that you cant brace it but when people say that it wont hurt you doesnt mean it would send you across the terain

Sorry, if I should have made it clearer about him needing the 100 shadow clones.

 

[Zexion~]

I still say Nagato Takes This

 

[HadouKage]

Proof is all throughout the manga.

Why else do you think it takes specific people to be a Jinchuuriki. Their bodies have to be able to handle the chakra.

If anybody needs proof for that they need help in life

Gakido absorbs infinite chakara

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

Gakido absorbs infinite chakara

Nope aaaaaaaaa

 

[Zexion~]

yes it does... The Preta Path (餓鬼道, Gakidō) grants the user the ability to absorb an infinite amount of chakra in any form using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal (source Naruto Wikia ) Naruto wikias source =the data book

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

yes it does... The Preta Path (餓鬼道, Gakidō) grants the user the ability to absorb an infinite amount of chakra in any form using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal (source Naruto Wikia ) Naruto wikias source =the data book

I've seen the Databook page.

It never states that the Jutsu can absorb an infinite amount if chakra. DA also has an explanation as to why preta would fail (in the Naruto > Edo Madara thread I believe. But I'm to lazy to go fetch it)

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Btw, we may have to hold off on that debate for a bit. I got a few things coming up the next few days.

 

[Zexion~]

Np And i have no idea how to acces the data book so i couldnt prove you wrong

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

Np And i have no idea how to acces the data book so i couldnt prove you wrong

I already know what the Databook page says. No need to post it.

 

[Sensational]

Databook may not say infinite chakra but it does say every jutsu

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[Neutra1 Knight]

Databook may not say infinite chakra but it does say every jutsu

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Every Jutsu doesn't mean infinite.

It simply states that it has the ability to absorb any Jutsu, not that it doesn't have some limit to the amount it c an absorb at any given moment.

 

[Sensational]

Every Jutsu doesn't mean infinite.

It simply states that it has the ability to absorb any Jutsu, not that it doesn't have some limit to the amount it c an absorb at any given moment.

It doesn't imply that it can't either.

 

[Neutra1 Knight]

It doesn't imply that it can't either.

Yet if it doesn't say that it can then you can't imply that.

That would be like me saying that Sasuke could use Izanami because it's never said that he couldn't.

 

[Penguin]

Not hating, just stating

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And fact is that preta has no limits

This is fact. Nagato wins High Diff.

 

[HadouKage]

It doesn't imply that it can't either.

Actually it does, it explains that the chakara is absorbed into a bottomless swamp
Bottomless = Endless
Endless = No limit
No Limit = Infinite

Every Jutsu doesn't mean infinite.

It simply states that it has the ability to absorb any Jutsu, not that it doesn't have some limit to the amount it c an absorb at any given moment.

So we pick and choose what we want to read? :|
Read the whole description

 

[Shinobi2000]

Nagato's absorbtion would be canceled by Naruto's sage's mode chakra of nature. He can make a clone to gather the nature chakra. another two clones in Beast mode to get nagato busy while launching TBB near to him, not at him. When it blasts Naruto with his speed cuts off Nagatos head with help of simple kunai. ( at least if he was thinking like me that is hehe ) Even if Nagato can see him he's got no speed do doge it nor counter it. But still even if he counters it with shinra tensei there are Naruto clones to finish this off.

With Naruto's speed, sage mode, kyubii mode and beast mode, and kage bunshin Nagato stands no chance.

 

[Zexion~]

Well THis Is BM naruto and sage Mode naruto would get his ass beat

 

[Durante]

Sorry, if I should have made it clearer about him needing the 100 shadow clones.

Your math based on chakra measurement is wrong in many ways.

Why?

Well probably first in the manga: it's non-motion based. Meaning you don't know how much time passes or how long they take.

And in the anime: I guess the same applies, you don't see an one hour episode of Naruto jumping trees and farting on his comrades.


The only good way of measuring I can think of was by the ninja info cards Kabuto would carry.. Or using the stats on a naruto game

In any case, Nagato superior ninjutsu - Naruto superior chakra reserves.

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