Birth of Rinnegan (Theory)

[Sai Bomb]

So I was thinking multiple things, and I thought of an interesting theory of how to unlock the rinnegan... basically just hear me out...

Supposedly as far as we know now, Nagato was given Madara Uchiha's eyes, and Madara said (when he was old guy status) that he was temporarily borrowing the eyes he had.

Basically my theory is that in order to unlock the rinnegan, it has already been confirmed that you must have Uchiha and Senju DNA to do so... but I was wondering if it is the same process as the Mangekyo Sharingan

THEORY: Someone with both Senju and Uchiha DNA must undergo a huge loss and/or suffer a very big emotional loss of someone/something, thus unlocking the rinnegan...

These are the two pieces of evidence I have to support the hypothesis...

1) Nagato (as far as we know) was given the eyes of Uchiha... (Tobi said that he gave him the rinnegan, but may have just meant that he gave Nagato the eyes and had planned from the begining to evolve them into the rinnegan.) They may have just been normal Uchiha eyes, but mixed with Nagato's Uzumaki/Senju DNA, created the rinnegan after watching his parents death.

2) Madara had mentioned that he had awoken "these eyes" (meaning the rinnegan) shortly before his death... now I haven't quite figured this part out, but since we know he was hooked up to all the hashirama cells when he was super old, it is possible that he had witnessed another tragedy, and since he had both DNA at that point it would awaken the Rinnegan this time.

Again this is just a theory I came up with, lemme know what you think / if you agree or disagree!

 

[-Raviel-]

This is a good theory but I disagree

 

[Newkage]

Pretty interesting

 

[Lordgeorge16]

1) Nagato (as far as we know) was given the eyes of Uchiha... (Tobi said that he gave him the rinnegan, but may have just meant that he gave Nagato the eyes and had planned from the begining to evolve them into the rinnegan.) They may have just been normal Uchiha eyes, but mixed with Nagato's Uzumaki/Senju DNA, created the rinnegan after watching his parents death.[/COLOR][/I]

As much as I hate to admit it, Nagato indeed had Madara's eyes transplanted after they had evolved into the Rinnegan. 'Tis quite a shame, really, I would've liked it a lot more if Nagato was somehow born with it and/or triggered it on his own.

2) Madara had mentioned that he had awoken "these eyes" (meaning the rinnegan) shortly before his death... now I haven't quite figured this part out, but since we know he was hooked up to all the hashirama cells when he was super old, it is possible that he had witnessed another tragedy, and since he had both DNA at that point it would awaken the Rinnegan this time.

This does make sense, but all we know right now is that Madara implanted himself with that weird Hashirama face-boob thing and, as a result, gained the Rinnegan before he transplanted it to Nagato and subsequently went into hiding and gave himself a new Sharingan in his left eye.

 

[GwemBaba]

Nice theory, I guess we'll find out.

 

[Twin Steps]

Hmmm, both of your points seem likely
Though I'll go with (1), th' one bout Nagato Uzumaki1

 

[DrProof]

You're onto something.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Madara awoke it during his twilight years, I doubt traumatic experience is the stimuli for its' awakening.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I think it takes to true self in order to awaken rinnegan, just like with izanami.
Basicly madara acquired senju power but nothing happened (so i kinda not sure if senju DNA is a must, ES supposedly had father eyes), so madara over time had given up on all his plans revenge and etc. thus accepted his destiny and his true self, and this is when rinnegan awakened.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

why would Madara give his Sharingan to Nagato for the latter to transform it into the Rinnegan when he himself had both senju and uchiha dna in his body which are the catalysts of the Rinnegan's awakening?

 

[Lordgeorge16]

-snip, ignore this post. I misread something-

 

[Sai Bomb]

Hmmm, both of your points seem likely
Though I'll go with (1), th' one bout Nagato Uzumaki1

Yeah I think I like that one better as well lol

 

[AlphaScythian]

why would Madara give his Sharingan to Nagato for the latter to transform it into the Rinnegan when he himself had both senju and uchiha dna in his body which are the catalysts of the Rinnegan's awakening?

Madara cant subdue the world if he can walk like few miles around gedo mazo, so he gave it some1 capable tat could resurrect him

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Point #1 is impossible because Madara had the Rinnegan when he was Edo Tensei'd

 

[VongolaX]

I have a feeling that Madara sealed it when implanting them and after witnessing his parents death it unlocked. I don't think you have to be uzamaki to open anything

 

[Sai Bomb]

Point #1 is impossible because Madara had the Rinnegan when he was Edo Tensei'd

Yeah, but itachi had his eyes when he was edo tenssei'd and sasuke took his

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Yeah, but itachi had his eyes when he was edo tenssei'd and sasuke took his

But those were his MS eyes when he died, if Madara died when he gave his EMS eye to Nagato then he would be revived with EMS only but he had the Rinnegan.

 

[Lordgeorge16]

But those were his MS eyes when he died, if Madara died when he gave his EMS eye to Nagato then he would be revived with EMS only but he had the Rinnegan.

I don't think the fact that it was a Mangekyo, Eternal Mangekyo, or a Rinnegan makes any kind of difference with the Edo Tensei. If I had to guess, the Jutsu caster can restore a body to its prime when it gets summoned. Naturally, Kabuto would want to use EMS/Rinnegan Madara, not old, withered Madara.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I don't think the fact that it was a Mangekyo, Eternal Mangekyo, or a Rinnegan makes any kind of difference with the Edo Tensei. If I had to guess, the Jutsu caster can restore a body to its prime when it gets summoned. Naturally, Kabuto would want to use EMS/Rinnegan Madara, not old, withered Madara.

But that's the point, if his prime didn't have the Rinnegan and he needed Nagato to awaken it for him during his old age then he would not have the Rinnegan at all when he was revived with ET

 

[Lordgeorge16]

But that's the point, if his prime didn't have the Rinnegan and he needed Nagato to awaken it for him during his old age then he would not have the Rinnegan at all when he was revived with ET

What? Nagato didn't awaken the Rinnegan for him. It's been stated numerous times that Madara activated the Rinnegan on his own, and before everyone thought he died (Because we now know that he hid in a cave for many years instead), he transplanted those eyes into Nagato either around the time of his birth, or at a very young age.