Nagato would beat Madara?

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I think once Nagato summons the great Akamaru, its game over for Madara.
 

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EMS Madara.

It has already been stated that him and Hashirama are on entirely different levels than anyone else.

Nagato would pose a threat, but his lack of true mobility and Madara's monstrous Susanoo+Kyuubi combo would overwhelm the hell out of him.

Again. Read the OP. Damn people, is it that hard to read and understand the OP?
 

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Like KGB Kakuzu said, I think CQB would favor Madara due to the Sharingan predicting abilities. However, Madara's stamina is not on par with Nagato's, who could probably out last an entire army. Nagato was said to have not only large amounts of chakra, but it was exceptionally strong. Madara's chakra was also noted to be strong even for the Uchiha, but not large in amount. Nagato's strength>Madara's no contest (Asura Path; blocking a Jiraiya's punch, who was in Sage Mode, with a blinded Human Path with one hand).

Due to the lack of restrictions, I assume Kyuubi is permitted for Madara and the Animal Path is permitted for Nagato. I'm giving this fight to Nagato. He's mobile, probably faster, stronger, has Rinnegan. There isn't anything in Madara's arsenal that Nagato can't counter except for the Perfect Susano'o and Armored Kyuubi. Susano'o<Preta Path, Yasaka Magatama --- Shinra Tensei that crap. Madara can only prolong his defeat in my opinion, but when Madara pulls out the PS I don't know who'd win, Madara actually might win. Nagato's only chance of winning is to defeat Madara before the latter can use Perfect Susano'o, or to plainly out last Madara (which can be done).
 

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madar doesnt simply give nagato rinnegan randomly so i say NAGATO :scorps:
 

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Nagato counters everything. EMS does not cannot stand to a full healthy Nagato sorry buddy

-Sigh- No, he doesn't.

Summons are fodderized by PS.

Anything Nagato has besides CT is tanked by PS. CT is destroyed by multiple mountain busting slashes. Bijuu Dama was effortlessly tanked by PS with no to little damage. CST isn't destroying it so don't bother mentioning it. Using it is a horrible idea anyway as PS will tank it with little to no damage and Nagato won't be able to use Deva's powers for awhile which leads to him getting fodderized.

Due to the range and power of the sword slashes Nagato is never getting anywhere near Susanoo as the Kage were tossed in the air by a sword slash that wasn't even aimed for them so don't bother with that extremely flawed and ridiculous Preta Path>Susanoo tactic.

Gedo Mazo doesn't have the feats to stand against PS so don't bother mentioning it here. Any attack it has is tanked and it is beaten with multiple sword slashes.
 

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Like KGB Kakuzu said, I think CQB would favor Madara due to the Sharingan predicting abilities. However, Madara's stamina is not on par with Nagato's, who could probably out last an entire army. Nagato was said to have not only large amounts of chakra, but it was exceptionally strong. Madara's chakra was also noted to be strong even for the Uchiha, but not large in amount. Nagato's strength>Madara's no contest (Asura Path; blocking a Jiraiya's punch, who was in Sage Mode, with a blinded Human Path with one hand).

Due to the lack of restrictions, I assume Kyuubi is permitted for Madara and the Animal Path is permitted for Nagato. I'm giving this fight to Nagato. He's mobile, probably faster, stronger, has Rinnegan. There isn't anything in Madara's arsenal that Nagato can't counter except for the Perfect Susano'o and Armored Kyuubi. Susano'o<Preta Path, Yasaka Magatama --- Shinra Tensei that crap. Madara can only prolong his defeat in my opinion, but when Madara pulls out the PS I don't know who'd win, Madara actually might win. Nagato's only chance of winning is to defeat Madara before the latter can use Perfect Susano'o, or to plainly out last Madara (which can be done).

Madara cannot pull out his PS unless he has the Rinnegan. It's just regular Susano'o as proved in the manga and me long ago. The rest is correct though. We're basically arguing with Madara fanboys.
 

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-Sigh- No, he doesn't.

Summons are fodderized by PS.

Anything Nagato has besides CT is tanked by PS. CT is destroyed by multiple mountain busting slashes. Bijuu Dama was effortlessly tanked by PS with no to little damage. CST isn't destroying it so don't bother mentioning it. Using it is a horrible idea anyway as PS will tank it with little to no damage and Nagato won't be able to use Deva's powers for awhile which leads to him getting fodderized.

Due to the range and power of the sword slashes Nagato is never getting anywhere near Susanoo as the Kage were tossed in the air by a sword slash that wasn't even aimed for them so don't bother with that extremely flawed and ridiculous Preta Path>Susanoo tactic.

Gedo Mazo doesn't have the feats to stand against PS so don't bother mentioning it here. Any attack it has is tanked and it is beaten with multiple sword slashes.

Again, it's been proved by a thread i made months ago and the recent flashback chapters that Madara doesn't have PS with EMS.
 

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Again, it's been proved by a thread i made months ago and the recent flashback chapters that Madara doesn't have PS with EMS.

There are still people who believe PS=Rinnegan? Get up to date with the manga.
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PS armored Kyuubi. /discussion
 

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Lmao that is not PS dude.

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Swords=PS Swords
Arms=PS Arms
Nose=PS Nose
Head=PS Head
Diamond where Madara resides is on both.

Same destructive capabilities.



That's Perfect Susanoo put onto the Kyuubi. Not up for debate its a manga fact.
 

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Swords=PS Swords
Arms=PS Arms
Nose=PS Nose
Head=PS Head
Diamond where Madara resides is on both.

Same destructive capabilities.



That's Perfect Susanoo put onto the Kyuubi. Not up for debate its a manga fact.

Your still wrong. That's just Susano'o body armor in the first manga page you showed. If it can stand alone without the Kyuubi then I'll accept that it's PS. Until then it's not PS.
 

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Any ems user is inferior to any rinnegan user. Therefore rinnnegan Nagato > Ems Madara even with the kyuubi.
 

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Your still wrong. That's just Susano'o body armor in the first manga page you showed. If it can stand alone without the Kyuubi then I'll accept that it's PS. Until then it's not PS.

That is PS shaped into armor for the Kyuubi genius. Where do you think the armor was shaped from? The PS used against the Gokage is what it looks like when it stands alone.

That is PS, not debatable, manga fact. Go take your denial elsewhere. Your opinion means nothing in the face of the manga.
 

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Is everyone forgetting about the motherf**king GEDO STATUE??? Even with the ninetails, Nagato can summon the Gedo Statue th combat the thing. The only threat to the statue is the fusion of Kurama and Perfect Susano'o.

In all fairness and seriousness, Nagato would beat Madara EMS with moderate difficulty and defeat Madara + Kurama the 9 -tails with UNPRESCEDENTED difficulty. However, If we speak of REANIMATED Madara, then the result would be Marara winning with moderately high difficulty.
 

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Is everyone forgetting about the motherf**king GEDO STATUE??? Even with the ninetails, Nagato can summon the Gedo Statue th combat the thing. The only threat to the statue is the fusion of Kurama and Perfect Susano'o.

In all fairness and seriousness, Nagato would beat Madara EMS with moderate difficulty and defeat Madara + Kurama the 9 -tails with UNPRESCEDENTED difficulty. However, If we speak of REANIMATED Madara, then the result would be Marara winning with moderately high difficulty.

Gedo Mazo's feats don't put it in the same league as PS alone let alone Kyuubi wearing PS as armor. Nagato summons the Gedo Mazo and still gets destroyed.
 

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I'm pretty sure Madara had Perfect Susano'o with Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. It's common sense, why would you need the Rinnegan to achieve a purely Mangekyou Sharingan technique? Tsunade questions how Hashirama was capable of overpowering Madara with his Perfect Susano'o - Madara retorts with stating that only Hashirama could defeat him.

Madara using Perfect Susano'o against Hashirama:
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Side-note: This was not directed towards everyone, just those who refuse to accept the facts. If it's something you personally believe, it's a theory. If it's from the manga, it's a fact. It's that simple.
 
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