[Theory] The Uzumaki Clan's Red Hair and their Links to the Rikudou Sennin.

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

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Indubitably so

 

[KingHashirama]

Certain die hard senju fans like KingHashirama will probably disagree with you.

Tsunade is also Uzumaki as well as senju. If anything, she needs to be a lot more powerful than she is now, being stuck behind a tree with half a body.

I'm aware edo tensei is created by Tobirama Senju. Have we SEEN him use it? NOPE. Have we SEEN him get restrained and controlled like a little puppet BY his own technique by Orochimaru? YEAP.

So......yeah. The thousand hands was summoned by Hashirama in sage mode. You're right though, it's not a summoning, I'm thinking of the damn rashomon gates for some reason.

I'll give you that Kushina was the ONLY ONE uzumaki chosen to be a jinchurriki. Just like Nagato, another uzumaki was chosen to possess Madara's Rinnegan. Why didn't Madara simply chosen a powerful senju? Well, nevermind, I just remembered Madara awaikened the eyes before his death, and the senju may have already died out by then. BUT still, why Nagato Uzumaki? What was SO special about nagato?

And THAT reminds me, since the Senju are so powerful as it is....................................................Where are they?

Why no love for Senjus Kishi? Why you make Senjus die out? What did they do to be treated as a fodder clan? Not being relevant to the story in the beginning if they were feared and respected by all originally? See, let it be people like YOU or ME to write this story, we would've made the senjus more BADASS! In my opinion I don't think the senjus actually should've died out.

Sure Mito DID become a jinchuriki to better assist Hashirama. You're right on this, still doesn't go against my point, in saying we've seen more feats from the Uzumaki than the Senju, but hey, I can't force people to see the light.

Well, Alrighty, hopefully I've made my point clear.

Shes categorized as a Senju. ...

Tsunade is stronger then Naruto/ Nagato/Kushina.... all the Uzumaki shown. lmao. And her being alive even after being cut in half proves her prowess. Tell me when Naruto or Nagato or any other Uzumaki does that ;]

What was so special about Nagato Uzumaki? hmm.. Zetsu already explained his importance:

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The Senju do not have a distinct thing that sets them upart..

Also, there was no need for a Senju clan.. This is what your not getting... instead of putting random ass questions atleast think about the topic at hand.

Hashirama and Tobirama were Senjus... yes? But was there ever a mention of the Senju CLAN after the village was built? no. Because they did not specialize in things , or have a unique physical trait that set them apart.

Also, the main character.. is considered a Senju.... they haven't died out..
Only reason Nagato was picked is.. because he was a Senju by blood.

What you don't understand is.. Senju basically made the physical shinobi world..Every village started from the senju.... the organizational system.. started from the senju... =]

Also, Tsunade is already more badass then any REAL Uzumaki shown.

Hashirama's chakra is Senju blood ;x.

Name one Uzumaki that matches his prowess. =].

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Shes categorized as a Senju. ...

Tsunade is stronger then Naruto/ Nagato/Kushina.... all the Uzumaki shown. lmao. And her being alive even after being cut in half proves her prowess. Tell me when Naruto or Nagato or any other Uzumaki does that ;]

What was so special about Nagato Uzumaki? hmm.. Zetsu already explained his importance:

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The Senju do not have a distinct thing that sets them upart..

Also, there was no need for a Senju clan.. This is what your not getting... instead of putting random ass questions atleast think about the topic at hand.

Hashirama and Tobirama were Senjus... yes? But was there ever a mention of the Senju CLAN after the village was built? no. Because they did not specialize in things , or have a unique physical trait that set them apart.

Also, the main character.. is considered a Senju.... they haven't died out..
Only reason Nagato was picked is.. because he was a Senju by blood.

What you don't understand is.. Senju basically made the physical shinobi world..Every village started from the senju.... the organizational system.. started from the senju... =]

Also, Tsunade is already more badass then any REAL Uzumaki shown.

Hashirama's chakra is Senju blood ;x.

Name one Uzumaki that matches his prowess. =].

No, no no no no no, no, GOD no, no!

Where was is said ANYWHERE that the senjus started EVERY ninja village?

Nagato is an Uzumaki. Sure he's related to the senju by blood, but he's not fully senju. He doesn't have the powerful physical body like senjus do. So again, why Nagato? Wouldn't it make more sense to give the senju, the eyes? Since the Uzumaki are like a "stemed" off branch of the senju, and the Senju is BASICALLY the full package?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Lineage means "Kinship" according to context, it means "blood relative" not descendants

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Lineage means "Kinship" according to context, it means "blood relative" not descendants

Thank you, but he may not listen.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Thank you, but he may not listen.

I've already explained to him 100 times that there was no contradiction between Zetsu and Kushina's statement, Zetsu said Nagato was of Senju Lineage and Kushina said the Uzumakis were distant blood relatives, if we take Zetsu's word into context, Lineage does not translate into descendant but "blood relative" aka "kinship" since you can't be a distant blood relative and be a descendant at the same time, that would be contradicting because a descendant clan is an immediate/direct relative and not a distant relative/clan, smh

 

[FearxDeath]

Perhaps I did make a mistake in not providing many more especific explanations as to how can the hair color be affected by blood. But I was thinking, if the red color of the Sharingan is due to blood coloring the irises, then why can't blood also affect the color of hair? The lack of blood makes one's skin color fade, doesn't it? Why can't it do the same with hair, if not scientifically, then at least in fiction?

Don't people of the same blood tend to have the same hair color, eye color or skin color, or all of them together? As to why could chakra, which is spiritual energy, mix up with blood... Yes, chakra is spiritual energy, but that doesn't mean it can't be tangible. Look at Chidori. You can see it and touch it. Same with Rasengan. Chakra runs inside their bodies via especial conduits. Just like blood. That similar way to work made me think of a possible relationship between blood and chakra together in the Uzumaki's case.

Maybe it sounds too illogical to you, but I thought it would be reasonable enough for a fiction series.

At the risk of sounding standoffish i will give you a rebuttle of my thoughts of this.

1) I can understand the eyes and the skin because those areas naturally have blood flow through them, if you cut the skin it will blood and so will the eye, have you ever heard of a blood shot eye? But hair on the other hand has nothing to do with blood. It never even reaches the blood as it is in the epidermis of the skin while the blood flow is under there. And thats for body hair, hair on your head is above the skull which is an area with very little blood flow if any. But that is just my take on it.

2) Some people of the same blood do have different hair, eyes, etc.. But that is all genetics evolving recessive and dominant traits. For instance let us say that brown hair is a recessive trait while black hair is dominant. The way you determine the odds of what traits the kids would have is by using punnets square. If the mom and dad both had black hair then that would be 2 dominant traits and thus the kid would always have black hair. But if the mom had black hair and the dad brown then with brown being recessive they would have a 3/4 chance of having a kid with black hair and a 1/4 chance of having one with brown. That is what we call genetic variation.

3) Ofcourse chakra can be tangible , Gai is a good example of that, especially he hidorama. But your making the jump from ninjas being able to make intangible chakra and harness it into a tangible form to saying that chakra is found in the blood. Now one thing I can agree with you on is that chakra could be found in the blood and perhaps there may even be some kind of intricit connection between the two, but you lose me at the red hair lol

 

[KingHashirama]

Lineage means "Kinship" according to context, it means "blood relative" not descendants

do you even understand the definition of kinship?

Kinship: Noun
1. Blood relationship.

That is what Kushina refered to..

Zetsu named the name of the lineage Uzumaki are from. . You have to a be a Senju hater to not understand this..

No, no no no no no, no, GOD no, no!

Where was is said ANYWHERE that the senjus started EVERY ninja village?

Nagato is an Uzumaki. Sure he's related to the senju by blood, but he's not fully senju. He doesn't have the powerful physical body like senjus do. So again, why Nagato? Wouldn't it make more sense to give the senju, the eyes? Since the Uzumaki are like a "stemed" off branch of the senju, and the Senju is BASICALLY the full package?

-sigh- Did I say they started every village? I stated they are basically the creators.....

Hashirama - Responsible for the Villages.. (Other countries copied his stuff)

Tobirama - Put into plan the organizational system ... (Other villages copied)

Tsunade - Creator of Medical ninjutsu... respected by every medical ninja.

BECAUSE HE IS A SENJU.... dude why are you argueing with a manga fact? reason he was picked is because hes from the Senju lineage.....

The name of the lineage of the Senju clan and Uzumaki clan of Hashirama's time is called the SENJU lineage... do you understand?


So your telling me a lineage can't have a branches? And yes Senju is basically the full package.. unless you find someone on Hashirama's chakra level.

 

[L Lawliet]

Wow, you guys are still at it?

 

[From the Dark Spire]

I've already explained to him 100 times that there was no contradiction between Zetsu and Kushina's statement, Zetsu said Nagato was of Senju Lineage and Kushina said the Uzumakis were distant blood relatives, if we take Zetsu's word into context, Lineage does not translate into descendant but "blood relative" aka "kinship" since you can't be a distant blood relative and be a descendant at the same time, that would be contradicting because a descendant clan is an immediate/direct relative and not a distant relative/clan, smh

You know he won't get it.

do you even understand the definition of kinship?

Kinship: Noun
1. Blood relationship.

That is what Kushina refered to..

Zetsu named the name of the lineage Uzumaki are from. . You have to a be a Senju hater to not understand this..




-sigh- Did I say they started every village? I stated they are basically the creators.....

Hashirama - Responsible for the Villages.. (Other countries copied his stuff)

Tobirama - Put into plan the organizational system ... (Other villages copied)

Tsunade - Creator of Medical ninjutsu... respected by every medical ninja.

BECAUSE HE IS A SENJU.... dude why are you argueing with a manga fact? reason he was picked is because hes from the Senju lineage.....

The name of the lineage of the Senju clan and Uzumaki clan of Hashirama's time is called the SENJU lineage... do you understand?


So your telling me a lineage can't have a branches? And yes Senju is basically the full package.. unless you find someone on Hashirama's chakra level.

Well anyway, it doesn't change the fact that we've seen more from the Uzumakis than the senjus.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Wow, you guys are still at it?

Yes, it's THAT serious.
He's trying to argue with me... ME.

 

[KingHashirama]

You know he won't get it.

Well anyway, it doesn't change the fact that we've seen more from the Uzumakis than the senjus.

And exactly what have we seen from the Uzumaki?

Senju showed us:

- they can use S/T jutsu
- Master element affinities
- Skilled warriors
- Physically strong
- Medical ninjutsu experts
- can crack a stone room with just sheer chakra power.


o-o

 

[From the Dark Spire]

And exactly what have we seen from the Uzumaki?

Senju showed us:

- they can use S/T jutsu
- Master element affinities
- Skilled warriors
- Physically strong
- Medical ninjutsu experts
- can crack a stone room with just sheer chakra power.


o-o

Allow me to be technical with your points.

- They can use s/t? HYPE! Haven't yet seen it in the manga
- Master elements? SURE You can have this one, I mean HEY, it's not like other shinobis haven't mastered elements.
-Skilled warriors? WHO Hashirama and Tobirama? Two people?
- Physically strong? YAWN
- Medical ninjutsu experts? Well we only know ONE medical ninjutsu expert from the senju, and she's half senju, half UZUMAKI
- Can crack stone with their will power? ............OKAY, I'll admit, that's badass.

 

[L Lawliet]

Allow me to be technical with your points.

- They can use s/t? HYPE! Haven't yet seen it in the manga
- Master elements? SURE You can have this one, I mean HEY, it's not like other shinobis haven't mastered elements.
-Skilled warriors? WHO Hashirama and Tobirama? Two people?
- Physically strong? YAWN
- Medical ninjutsu experts? Well we only know ONE medical ninjutsu expert from the senju, and she's half senju, half UZUMAKI
- Can crack stone with their will power? ............OKAY, I'll admit, that's badass.

In that last line, you should also mention that only 2 Senju are able to do that so far

 

[KingHashirama]

Allow me to be technical with your points.

- They can use s/t? HYPE! Haven't yet seen it in the manga
- Master elements? SURE You can have this one, I mean HEY, it's not like other shinobis haven't mastered elements.
-Skilled warriors? WHO Hashirama and Tobirama? Two people?
- Physically strong? YAWN
- Medical ninjutsu experts? Well we only know ONE medical ninjutsu expert from the senju, and she's half senju, half UZUMAKI
- Can crack stone with their will power? ............OKAY, I'll admit, that's badass.

- Do you know what Hype is? Hype is titles like "God of Shinobi" without any proof.. Saying a specific character has a specific jutsu is not hype

- The whole Senju clan.. lmaoo.. Considered the strongest clan even without Hashirama.

- Shes a full blood senju. Unless you have manga calling her a part Uzumaki.

- Thats already more powerful then any Uzumaki feat.

Your insulting many other Uzumaki fans , with this stuff, claiming the Uzumaki are whole lot more important then the Senju clan.. the same clan that Naruto represents. And also, get out of the fantasy, Uzumaki clan hasn't shown shit except sealing techs.

In that last line, you should also mention that only 2 Senju are able to do that so far

only 1. Because he defines the true power of the Senju blood.

 

[L Lawliet]

- Do you know what Hype is? Hype is titles like "God of Shinobi" without any proof.. Saying a specific character has a specific jutsu is not hype

- The whole Senju clan.. lmaoo.. Considered the strongest clan even without Hashirama.

- Shes a full blood senju. Unless you have manga calling her a part Uzumaki.

- Thats already more powerful then any Uzumaki feat.

Your insulting many other Uzumaki fans , with this stuff, claiming the Uzumaki are whole lot more important then the Senju clan.. the same clan that Naruto represents. And also, get out of the fantasy, Uzumaki clan hasn't shown shit except sealing techs.



only 1. Because he defines the true power of the Senju blood.

It's not like I have a personal crusade against you or anything, but you are woefully, absolutely wrong there. The power of one person states the power of a Clan? Since when are all Uchiha as strong as Madara? Since when are all Nara as smart as Shikaku and Shikamaru? Since when are all Hyuuga as skilled as Neji? Since when?

It's not that you can't say what you say, you can. Whether you're right or wrong, that's another issue. A Clan is a Clan. A single shinobi is a single Shinobi.

 

[KingHashirama]

It's not like I have a personal crusade against you or anything, but you are woefully, absolutely wrong there. The power of one person states the power of a Clan? Since when are all Uchiha as strong as Madara? Since when are all Nara as smart as Shikaku and Shikamaru? Since when are all Hyuuga as skilled as Neji? Since when?

It's not that you can't say what you say, you can. Whether you're right or wrong, that's another issue. A Clan is a Clan. A single shinobi is a single Shinobi.

Wrong, Madara Uchiha's eyes = Full power of the Uchiha lineage

Hashirama's Chakra = Full power of the Senju lineage.

And since when are all the Uzumaki skilled as Mito?

The strongest shinobi from that clan represents the clan's prime strength. In this case its the Senju which are about chakra power.. And Hashirama Senju represents the Senju lineage, whether its the Uzumaki or Senju Clan.

Hashirama is the person who reps the power of their bodies.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

It's a futile exercise to reason with this:

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Can't see the pic.

In that last line, you should also mention that only 2 Senju are able to do that so far

- Do you know what Hype is? Hype is titles like "God of Shinobi" without any proof.. Saying a specific character has a specific jutsu is not hype

- The whole Senju clan.. lmaoo.. Considered the strongest clan even without Hashirama.

- Shes a full blood senju. Unless you have manga calling her a part Uzumaki.

- Thats already more powerful then any Uzumaki feat.

Your insulting many other Uzumaki fans , with this stuff, claiming the Uzumaki are whole lot more important then the Senju clan.. the same clan that Naruto represents. And also, get out of the fantasy, Uzumaki clan hasn't shown shit except sealing techs.



only 1. Because he defines the true power of the Senju blood.

The Whole senju clan is the strongest even without Hashirama? So where is this "strongest clan" now?

How is Tsunade a FULL senju? Are you REALLY going to completely deny she has uzumaki blood thanks to Mito Uzumaki birthing Hashirama's child, half senju, half uzumaki? And then THAT child the father or mother of Tsunade!

Sure the manga says nothing about her being uzumaki, but it's still fact, they pronounce her with her surname.

I could care less about the uzumaki fans, I'm a fan of them all. The BEST of them all being Shino Aburame, but that's not the point.

 

[L Lawliet]

Wrong, Madara Uchiha's eyes = Full power of the Uchiha lineage

Hashirama's Chakra = Full power of the Senju lineage.

And since when are all the Uzumaki skilled as Mito?

The strongest shinobi from that clan represents the clan's prime strength. In this case its the Senju which are about chakra power.. And Hashirama Senju represents the Senju lineage, whether its the Uzumaki or Senju Clan.

Hashirama is the person who reps the power of their bodies.

Okay, I can see a bit of the point you have there. I get it. What you're saying is that Madara and Hashirama each represent like, the perfect, ultimate stage of their Clan's powers, right? Is that what you're saying? That each Senju and each Uchiha has the potential of becoming a Hashirama and a Madara respectively?