Hinata is a Cookie Cutter Character

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Well I am a Westerner, and I did not know what a tsundere was until you explained, so thank you for that. But I see what you mean now. I should probably stop trying to inject/compare fiction with reality standards. But it's time and place with the tsundere character. I'm sure when I first saw/read what Sakura did I chuckled, but right now I'm using it for a debate, so I'm not really in the right environment to find it funny
lol sry if I sorta pushed you.
 

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*facepalms* *facepalms* *facepalms*
if i was off topic tell that to the other person. I was just pointing out the things of why I hate her. So calm down.

calm down? did I raise my voice? No, I was typing. Didnt see any caps in the post either. Just clearing up some falsities in your argument.

@ bold, thats why its of topic.
 
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Now this is real bashing right here...
Peace out, I'd rather not be a part of this discussion anymore.

Thats not even bashing. Cmon seriously? Get over yourself. If i was bashing sakura, my post would be WAY different trust me.
 

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So nobody comments on Hinata's supposedly underwhelming development, just what I though, so this is another Hinata vs Sakura thread albeit a subtle one.
 

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So nobody comments on Hinata's supposedly underwhelming development, just what I though, so this is another Hinata vs Sakura thread albeit a subtle one.

Actually now that you're here.
Also bunch of people did comment on Hinata's Development before things spun out of control a little lol

My issue with Hinata is that she isn't fleshed out, Shyness shouldn't be a character's only personality. And seeing she overpassed her shyness-

Whats more to her then?
 

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okay..... still isn't it strange that is off topic because you say it is? Like this is off topic because I'm this is off topic?

No its of topic because it has nothing to do with the OP.
And while we're of topic...


Its not hard to see sakura has a basic tsundere design with a crush on some guy who tried to kill her. If you like tsundere thats fine, but if you really believe that people like hinata because she is a Hyuga, then you are seriously misinformed.

Actually now that you're here
the manga is wrapping up, kishi is rapping up his development for his characters.

Everyone will have a resolution by the end of the manga.

They finished nagato's story, his mentality is pretty perfect to, as of his final appearance in the manga, so is itachi. Hinata has reached all her goals, and has failed in the past like many others, but now her development is complete.
 
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No its of topic because it has nothing to do with the OP.
And while we're of topic...


Its not hard to see sakura has a basic tsundere design with a crush on some guy who tried to kill her. If you like tsundere thats fine, but if you really believe that people like hinata because she is a Hyuga, then you are seriously misinformed.

I'm not. If you truly like a character you shouldn't be saying that she's awesome just because she is character with background. not saying that you do but tbh people never look through Sakura and that's why I hate it. I can't just like Hinata because she's shy and cute, that just means i admire her. That's what I call "fangirling"
 

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Actually now that you're here.
Also bunch of people did comment on Hinata's Development before things spun out of control a little lol

My issue with Hinata is that she isn't fleshed out, Shyness shouldn't be a character's only personality. And seeing she overpassed her shyness-

Whats more to her then?

Ehm, haven't you read chapter 615?, her purpose is to be with Naruto, because she was inspired by him, because he changed her, they share the same ninja way, that's why Hinata was the only one that could snap Naruto out of despair when his(and hers) beliefs where being questioned by Obito.
 

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No its of topic because it has nothing to do with the OP.
And while we're of topic...


Its not hard to see sakura has a basic tsundere design with a crush on some guy who tried to kill her. If you like tsundere thats fine, but if you really believe that people like hinata because she is a Hyuga, then you are seriously misinformed.


the manga is wrapping up, kishi is rapping up his development for his characters.

Yeah, i mean if you like Hinata you like her/ if you don't you don't. Hinata popularity is higher than Neji it seems so i don't think being a hyuuga has anything to do with it
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True, he is wrapping his character development for his characters
But she still needs a personality- her personality basically revolved around her being shy- take that away and we don't have Hinata's personality anymore.
Naruto has gotten growth and by the end of this series he grew into a strong shinobi- but doesn't mean Kishi isn't going to take away Naruto being a goofball, a bit of a pervert, jokester, postive, understanding.

@Sot
But thats basically reducing her to romance fodder then- and i don't think reflects very well for her character for her only purpose to be with naruto-
It shows she can't stand on her own as a character.
 
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My issue with Hinata is that she isn't fleshed out, Shyness shouldn't be a character's only personality. And seeing she overpassed her shyness-

Whats more to her then?

This is a brilliant post
 

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Ehm, haven't you read chapter 615?, her purpose is to be with Naruto, because she was inspired by him, because he changed her, they share the same ninja way, that's why Hinata was the only one that could snap Naruto out of despair when his(and hers) beliefs where being questioned by Obito.

Nice post :ls:
 

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@Sot
But thats basically reducing her to romance fodder then- and i don't think reflects very well for her character for her only purpose to be with naruto-
It shows she can't stand on her own.

Oh my, but she stood on her own, Naruto's ninja way is now hers too, Naruto's psyque was falling apart, but Hinata showed more mental strenght than him and was able to snap him out of it, that's having no personality for you?

To me that's not romance fodder material.
 
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Oh my, but she stood on her own, Naruto's ninja way is now hers too, Naruto's psyque was falling apart, but Hinata showed more mental strenght than him and was able to snap him out of it, that's having no personality for you?

her sole reason to exist is to be with naruto. She doesn't have any actual personality left now that she isn't shy. She's just... I don't know. What is she, independent of naruto?
 

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Oh my, but she stood on her own, Naruto's ninja way is now hers too, Naruto's psyque was falling apart, but Hinata showed more mental strenght than him and was able to snap him out of it, that's having no personality for you?

Yes, thats not a personality lol Other characters has brought Naruto into a different path of life too.
For example, Iruka snapped Naruto out of his depression when Jiraiya died
Being able to snap naruto out of falling Its not exclusive to Hinata.
Thats not her personality.

Naurto has his friends to raise him up, She did so like others have done so.
 
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her sole reason to exist is to be with naruto. She doesn't have any actual personality left now that she isn't shy. She's just... I don't know. What is she, independent of naruto?

Sole reason for Naruto to exist is to save Sasuke. Anyways I already explained why she has a personality outside of being shy in my previous post, whether you take it or not is not of my concern.
 

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Sole reason for Naruto to exist is to save Sasuke. Anyways I already explained why she has a personality outside of being shy in my previous post, whether you take it or not is not of my concern.

you actually didn't. in any way.
 

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Sole reason for Naruto to exist is to save Sasuke. Anyways I already explained why she has a personality outside of being shy in my previous post, whether you take it or not is not of my concern.

The level of falsity within this statement...
 

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Sole reason for Naruto to exist is to save Sasuke. Anyways I already explained why she has a personality outside of being shy in my previous post, whether you take it or not is not of my concern.

No it isn't.
yes, Sasuke is his friend- But Naruto only existence is not just to save Sasuke, Naruto still has his dreams of being Hokage, of helping other, proving to others he isn't weak
Saving Sasuke doesn't define Naruto. It does shows he is a good friend-but Naruto is not solely "SAVE SASUKE SAVE SASUKE."
 

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you actually didn't. in any way.

So she overcomes her shyness to save the person she loves from despair, then gives a speech without stuttering like in the confession, and you say she has no personality.
 
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