[Theory] The Uzumaki Clan's Red Hair and their Links to the Rikudou Sennin.
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Lol, actually, I've never looked at it from that point of view. If we abide by what you say, then the Uzumaki could be more powerful than them by far... Hashirama and perhaps Tobirama being the only exceptions. The Uchiha have proved to be threatening because there are a lot of them causing havoc, or making names for themselves, Shisui, Itachi, Sasuke, Izuna, Madara, Obito... But when it comes to the Senju...
Well, Hashirama and Tobirama. Again. Oh, and maybe Tsunade, but since the blood is mixed, I wouldn't be able to say. And then again, her blood also carries some Uzumaki traits, which now that I think about it, could have a relationship with her medical ninjutsu lol!
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2nnd Mizukage performed summoning. Summoning generally requires blood...Problem is, Edos don't have blood, do they?
However, this is a very good and well-though-out theory; good job.
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Exactly, and again, no real disrespect to the senjus, I actually like them, it's just, when are we REALLY going to see them go all out? What secrets do they possess? I mean we see the secrets of Uchiha, and the Uzumaki, but what secrets do the senjus have? They have to have something special, they can't just be sage mode, physical brute strength monsters, could they? I was really getting into it, when Tobirama was explaining about the senjus way of peace. I was thinking, FINALLY something about senjus, then he went on to talk about the uchihas and they're headaches and stuff.
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=D alrighty. But honestly it was a good theory. Oh and also, what if his hair changed colors due to the Juubi's chakra? O_O!
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Could be. But then the whole Senju having high chakra wouldn't make sense. Unless the trait can be passed on.
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I'm trying to make uzumaki blood different from senju blood? Where did that come from?
Anyway, I'm not saying the senjus SHOULD make sealing techniques, or rds, or any of that, you obviously don't understand the point of what I'm saying.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING REALLY SPECIAL FROM THEM YET! LIKE I SAID IN MY FIRST POST, UNTIL KISHI COLLABORATES AND SHOWS US WHAT THE SENJUS CAN REALLY DO, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE UZUMAKIS AND UCHIHAS..
What does this sound like to you? ^ "All about the uzumaki and uchihas" Doesn't that sound like fanboying to you?
So I'm NOT REALLY saying senjus are inferior, I'm saying the senjus are not in the spotlight right now, as in, they're not the main focus, until we see what they can do.
Of course the rds is the uzumaki sealing technique. What I'm trying to get through to you, is what can the senjus themselves do?
Do you see what I'm trying to say, it's not that damn hard. It's tough dealing with people that can't get it through their heads.
In my opinion, even though the Senju Clan has the closest ties with the Sage, their power comes more from Nature than from their links with him. That's why, I think the Senju's ties with the sage are the closest but not the strongest. The strongest ties are by far the Uzumaki's. I think the most outstanding quality from the Senju Clan is their usage of Nature to enhance their strenght, and since chapter 621, I belive the Senju Clan are the fist Sage Mode users ever in history.
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Man I sure can't wait to see what new abilities we will see from the senju clan soon, oh boy.
KingHashirama
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-sigh- mate.. did you understand what I posted?
I listed COUPLE of things the Senju can do.. what did you do? you chose to ignore them....
If your talking about special as in something only the Senju can do.. then I'll have to ask the same for the Uzumaki..
You said the Senju aren't in the Spotlight right now.. and its only the Uzumaki and Uchiha.. you said that right?
But yet the current chapters are about the Senju Leader. Naruto throughout his whole life is considered a Senju by Obito.
The one person which Uzumaki fans go to make the Uzumaki all OP or "main".. Nagato.. in the end was shown to have importance ONLY because he was related to the Senju...
Technically Uchiha's are the strongest by far. =x. But too be realistic. I'm still going with the Senju.
SO6P didn't just specialize in sealings. He was a GOD OF SHINOBI. He was a overall kind of a person, hence his resemblance to the Senju clan of thousand skills.
As far as the persona and the looks go... Uchiha by far the closest to me.
That would be something if they are the first SM users in history. But what if that SM is only stricted to Hashirama?
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I still think arguing over who's stronger between Senju and Uchiha is pointless. Think about it this way, is it safe to assume The Uchiha and The Senju are like the parts in which the Sage of Six Paths split? It is. Elder Son equals Uchiha, Younger Son equals Senju.
The Elder Son has the Sage's spirit and eyes. The Younger Son has the Sage's vital force and physical prowess. In my opinion, when two things are merely parts of a whole, and when both are necessary to make a complete being, then neither of them is the strongest. If the Uchiha and The Senju represent the two aspects that made the Sage of Six Paths, then the Uchiha and the Senju are EQUALS. Parts of a whole. They aren't stronger than each other, or weaker. So for me, that discussion is basically pointless.
Now, if we're going to speak not in general, but especifically about someone... Then I can say Hashirama is stronger than Madara, regardless of what does Madara use... Madara can have the Kyuubi, or Hashirama's DNA, or whatever he wants, but he would still lose to Hashirama. Unless of course, he became the Juubi's Jiinchuuriki... That would be another level.
The Elder Son has the Sage's spirit and eyes. The Younger Son has the Sage's vital force and physical prowess. In my opinion, when two things are merely parts of a whole, and when both are necessary to make a complete being, then neither of them is the strongest. If the Uchiha and The Senju represent the two aspects that made the Sage of Six Paths, then the Uchiha and the Senju are EQUALS. Parts of a whole. They aren't stronger than each other, or weaker. So for me, that discussion is basically pointless.
Now, if we're going to speak not in general, but especifically about someone... Then I can say Hashirama is stronger than Madara, regardless of what does Madara use... Madara can have the Kyuubi, or Hashirama's DNA, or whatever he wants, but he would still lose to Hashirama. Unless of course, he became the Juubi's Jiinchuuriki... That would be another level.
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I saw what you put, that's why I didn't say anything, now you're saying you could say the same about Uzumakis? Well let's see, they're well versed with sealing jutsus, they created rds, they were used as the jinchurriki of the nine tails..
You know what, because you're obviously not getting it, I'm going to make it easy so we can all agree..
We've seen MORE of the uzumaki then we have senju. And I'm fully aware that the manga is directed towards senjus, but also uchihas. And if you noticed, we've only seen hashi and madara as kids. So we still haven't seen sh*t yet. WE DID see Hashi's sage mode summoning, that was badass. But it's Hashirama, what about the other senjus? See what I'm saying?
Let's just wait, I don't feel like arguing right now and putting sense into people like I always do.
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SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO
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it is peculiar that only Uzumakis were capable of becoming Kurama's Jinchuuriki that they have to be imported from Uzushiogakure like Kushina wherein it was customary for Shinobi villages to chose the Kage's relative as the Bijuu's host, in this respect we can see that Uzumaki vitality and life force is far superior to the Senjus.
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KingHashirama
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And your forgetting Tsunade? The woman who nearly killed Jiraiya as kids..... And the greatest Medic ninja of all time.
Only 1 Uzumaki was CHOSEN as a jinchuriki for the 9-tails.. that was Kushina.. Mito herself chose to be the jinchurikit to better assist her husband. Naruto was selected because Minato believe he was the boy of the prophecy...
Also, you keep forgetting Edo Tensei is created by the Senju..
And also, "Thousand hands" is not a summoning.. lol.
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SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO
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Regarding that normal condition of being close to the Hokage, could there be some sort of bond between Kushina and Mito? I don't know why but there's something telling me Mito could have been Kushina's Grandmother.