Hinata is a Cookie Cutter Character

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Describe to me how "developed" she is compared to Sakura. Really cause I wanna know. You can't just proclaim Hinata is the most developed female character. C'mon be serious. Is Hinata really that amazing?
Give him a break. You can find the answer in his avatar anyways.
 
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WHAT?!! Are you freaking kidding me?! Ok, Hinata is the most underdeveloped of the K11? Yeah. Ok. Show me something from Tenten's past. Or Shino's. Or even Sakura's. You can't. Because they have been given little to NO backstory, while Hinata is a fully fleshed out character, where we've seen a lot of her past, where her love for Naruto originated, the struggles she's faced in her life growing up in constantly being picked on, put down, and abused by family and classmates alike. Her love for Naruto is, of the K11 relationships, is the best. She's been there for Naruto and supported him and Naruto has done the same. Hinata nearly was killed by Pain trying to save Naruto's life all out of love for him. I didn't see Sakura going down there and doing that. Hinata is brave when she needs to be, has grown as the story advanced, and isn't the shy little girl she used to be, at least not to the same extent. She's more confident after proclaiming her love for Naruto, uses her love for him as motivation to keep fighting in the war against impossible odds, and it can be aruged that she even managed to save Neji during the war.

To say Hinata has no character development or call her a cookie cutter character is arrogant and misguided. She's been given more backstory than the K11 (not including Naruto). Oh, and by the way, character bashing is illegal on this site, so you're going to get reported and most likely banned. Congrats.
 

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Hinata is easily Top 10-15 in character development, you must be joking.
 

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WHAT?!! Are you freaking kidding me?! Ok, Hinata is the most underdeveloped of the K11? Yeah. Ok. Show me something from Tenten's past. Or Shino's. Or even Sakura's. You can't. Because they have been given little to NO backstory, while Hinata is a fully fleshed out character, where we've seen a lot of her past, where her love for Naruto originated, the struggles she's faced in her life growing up in constantly being picked on, put down, and abused by family and classmates alike. Her love for Naruto is, of the K11 relationships, is the best. She's been there for Naruto and supported him and Naruto has done the same. Hinata nearly was killed by Pain trying to save Naruto's life all out of love for him. I didn't see Sakura going down there and doing that. Hinata is brave when she needs to be, has grown as the story advanced, and isn't the shy little girl she used to be, at least not to the same extent. She's more confident after proclaiming her love for Naruto, uses her love for him as motivation to keep fighting in the war against impossible odds, and it can be aruged that she even managed to save Neji during the war.

To say Hinata has no character development or call her a cookie cutter character is arrogant and misguided. She's been given more backstory than the K11 (not including Naruto). Oh, and by the way, character bashing is illegal on this site, so you're going to get reported and most likely banned. Congrats.

By your own standards you would be bashing Sakura right now, and will also soon get banned :|

Dude it's just a question. And btw it's a her.
MangekyoMuslim is a her?
 

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WHAT?!! Are you freaking kidding me?! Ok, Hinata is the most underdeveloped of the K11? Yeah. Ok. Show me something from Tenten's past. Or Shino's. Or even Sakura's. You can't. Because they have been given little to NO backstory, while Hinata is a fully fleshed out character, where we've seen a lot of her past, where her love for Naruto originated, the struggles she's faced in her life growing up in constantly being picked on, put down, and abused by family and classmates alike. Her love for Naruto is, of the K11 relationships, is the best. She's been there for Naruto and supported him and Naruto has done the same. Hinata nearly was killed by Pain trying to save Naruto's life all out of love for him. I didn't see Sakura going down there and doing that. Hinata is brave when she needs to be, has grown as the story advanced, and isn't the shy little girl she used to be, at least not to the same extent. She's more confident after proclaiming her love for Naruto, uses her love for him as motivation to keep fighting in the war against impossible odds, and it can be aruged that she even managed to save Neji during the war.

To say Hinata has no character development or call her a cookie cutter character is arrogant and misguided. She's been given more backstory than the K11 (not including Naruto). Oh, and by the way, character bashing is illegal on this site, so you're going to get reported and most likely banned. Congrats.

You need to calm down my friend.
I didn't bash her; but i feel Hinata has a terrible character not only i backed up why i felt why i did. I didn't insult her character, i even said she is beter suited as a main character over sakura

Thanks for the congrats

Well I think the biggest problem Kishi made with Hinata (and honestly the other K11 members) was barely placing them in part II.

As such we only see her with the same shy and timid personality she has while around Naruto (i.e. that one demension personality), but as of 615 she has shown that she is no longer extremely shy.

We have seen the flaw of Hinata's character. She lacked self confidence. Because of her background story (which is one of the better backgrounds) we see the heavy expectations on her stalemated her growth, and let to her own family resenting her. As such she isn't confident, and leads to trouble/failure on missions as Kurenai pointed out.

However, over the course of the series she actually gained self confidence and it shows in the fight against Madara and Obito.

I'd say another flaw in her character is that Kishi mostly portrays or introduces her when she is around Naruto and as such her thoughts generally revolve around him where as had she been in a situation that didn't involve him...her thoughts and maybee even shyness would be rather different.


With her background and recent developement personality wise (even more than before & after her fight with Neji), she has shown wonderful developement. ESPECIALLY due to the fact that she's a side character.

Alright, i'll give you that. Her growing out of her shyness i can see that counters my point about her growth. But i wouldn't exactly say its a "flaw" that she's majorly crushing on Naruto and he is the apple of her eyes
 

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>states she's the most underdeveloped female
>states she can't stand on her own
>has cleary skipped the last chapters where Hinata appeared

At least Hinata's ''1 dimensional'' character development hasn't regressed like the pink haired girl's one.
 

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WHAT?!! Are you freaking kidding me?! Ok, Hinata is the most underdeveloped of the K11? Yeah. Ok. Show me something from Tenten's past. Or Shino's. Or even Sakura's. You can't. Because they have been given little to NO backstory, while Hinata is a fully fleshed out character, where we've seen a lot of her past, where her love for Naruto originated, the struggles she's faced in her life growing up in constantly being picked on, put down, and abused by family and classmates alike. Her love for Naruto is, of the K11 relationships, is the best. She's been there for Naruto and supported him and Naruto has done the same. Hinata nearly was killed by Pain trying to save Naruto's life all out of love for him. I didn't see Sakura going down there and doing that. Hinata is brave when she needs to be, has grown as the story advanced, and isn't the shy little girl she used to be, at least not to the same extent. She's more confident after proclaiming her love for Naruto, uses her love for him as motivation to keep fighting in the war against impossible odds, and it can be aruged that she even managed to save Neji during the war.

To say Hinata has no character development or call her a cookie cutter character is arrogant and misguided. She's been given more backstory than the K11 (not including Naruto). Oh, and by the way, character bashing is illegal on this site, so you're going to get reported and most likely banned. Congrats.
It's funny how the majority of Hinata's fans need to bring Sakura in almost every comment about Hinata.
 

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WHAT?!! Are you freaking kidding me?! Ok, Hinata is the most underdeveloped of the K11? Yeah. Ok. Show me something from Tenten's past. Or Shino's. Or even Sakura's. You can't. Because they have been given little to NO backstory, while Hinata is a fully fleshed out character, where we've seen a lot of her past, where her love for Naruto originated, the struggles she's faced in her life growing up in constantly being picked on, put down, and abused by family and classmates alike. Her love for Naruto is, of the K11 relationships, is the best. She's been there for Naruto and supported him and Naruto has done the same. Hinata nearly was killed by Pain trying to save Naruto's life all out of love for him. I didn't see Sakura going down there and doing that. Hinata is brave when she needs to be, has grown as the story advanced, and isn't the shy little girl she used to be, at least not to the same extent. She's more confident after proclaiming her love for Naruto, uses her love for him as motivation to keep fighting in the war against impossible odds, and it can be aruged that she even managed to save Neji during the war.

To say Hinata has no character development or call her a cookie cutter character is arrogant and misguided. She's been given more backstory than the K11 (not including Naruto). Oh, and by the way, character bashing is illegal on this site, so you're going to get reported and most likely banned. Congrats.
Lol background isn't character development. It's just details. Oh and he isn't character bashing. Bashing is when your just saying stuff about the character that no one cares about. This guy is actually giving points unlike most bashers so don't get mad that he's calling out on Hinata.
 

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It's funny how the majority of Hinata's fans need to bring Sakura in almost every comment about Hinata.

That's ironic, considering most Sakura apologists tend to bring up Hinata whether it's relevant or not to the criticism.
 
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Describe to me how "developed" she is compared to Sakura. Really cause I wanna know. You can't just proclaim Hinata is the most developed female character. C'mon be serious. Is Hinata really that amazing?

I'll do it for her. We know nothing about Sakura before the series of Naruto started. At least, have never seen it anyway. Hinata has been given more backstory and flashbacks in that regard than anyone of the K11 that isn't Naruto. Sakura hasn't evolved much as a character, only matured, in that she's still after Sasuke despite how many crimes he's committed and making an attempt on her life. She's still punching Naruto in the head and berating him over stupid things. Naruto saves Konoha and defeats Pain and what does she do? Punch him in the head and call him a fool, for NO reason.

Hinata has begun as a shy girl who ordinarily wouldn't speak or voice her opinion, but now she's become strong, confident, and believes in herself and others more than ever. That is character development and character progression. The key ingredients to any good story.
 

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That's ironic, considering most Sakura apologists bring up Hinata wether it's relevant or not to the critics.
I personally like both, so I don't tend to do that. I can't say that for those who actually do that. Sadly, it will always be like that when it comes to Sakura's and Hinata's fans. U_U
 

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That's ironic, considering most Sakura apologists tend to bring up Hinata whether it's relevant or not to the criticism.
There's no need to bring up Hinata cause you guys are just too delusional that we don't haft to mention her.
 

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It's funny how the majority of Hinata's fans need to bring Sakura in almost every comment about Hinata. lol

It's as if they're insecure about their own favorite character and need to bring down other characters to make their favorite look better.
I find it funny how people selectively forget that Naruto didn't want anyone to interfere in that fight, before going ahead and bashing Sakura for heeding his wish by not interfering, especially when everyone else was doing the same.

Hinata also didn't even know Naruto was a Jinchuuriki. What was she expecting would happen when she got defeated by Pein (as she knew she would?). If Naruto hadn't had the Kyuubi within him, all that would have happened was that Naruto goes through further distress by witnessing her death before being captured anyways.

I'll do it for her. We know nothing about Sakura before the series of Naruto started. At least, have never seen it anyway. Hinata has been given more backstory and flashbacks in that regard than anyone of the K11 that isn't Naruto. Sakura hasn't evolved much as a character, only matured, in that she's still after Sasuke despite how many crimes he's committed and making an attempt on her life. She's still punching Naruto in the head and berating him over stupid things. Naruto saves Konoha and defeats Pain and what does she do? Punch him in the head and call him a fool, for NO reason.

Hinata has begun as a shy girl who ordinarily wouldn't speak or voice her opinion, but now she's become strong, confident, and believes in herself and others more than ever. That is character development and character progression. The key ingredients to any good story.
I really hate it when people here in the west don't understand the concept of a tsundere. Sakura is obligated through her character-archetype to hit the main protagonist even in the most serious of situations :|
 
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I'll tke back her saying she has the worst character for a female- she because obviously she is better than ino, ten ten...etc..etc..

But i feel she doesn't have a real definite flaw(s) and she still pretty generic to me.
I feel it isn't hard to copy n past a character like her
 
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It's as if they're insecure about their own favorite character and need to bring down other characters to make their favorite look better.
I find it funny how people forget that Naruto didn't want anyone to interfere in that fight, going ahead and bashing Sakura for heeding his desire and not interfering, especially when everyone else was doing the same.

Hinata also didn't even know Naruto was a Jinchuuriki. What was she expecting would happen when she got defeated by Pein (as she knew she would?). If Naruto hadn't had the Kyuubi within him, all that would have happened was that Naruto goes through further distress by witnessing her death before being captured anyways.

The conflict between sakura and hinata is simply because it will be naruhina vs narusaku until one of them is cannon. Even if its a thread that isnt about parings hinata fans for the most part will dislike sakura and vica versa.
 
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Lol background isn't character development. It's just details. Oh and he isn't character bashing. Bashing is when your just saying stuff about the character that no one cares about. This guy is actually giving points unlike most bashers so don't get mad that he's calling out on Hinata.

Background character isn't development? Really? Do you realize how arrogant that sounds? "There is no such thing as a small character, only a small actor." - Constantin Stanislavski. That quote branches to all forms of media, not just movies and plays. She has shown clear development. Look at Hinata when she was in the academy compared to her during the war and you won't see the same character.

And yes it is character bashing. Just because you give reasons doesn't validate it or make it ok. He isn't saying why he hates Hinata, he's saying why Hinata is a bad character. That's character bashing. If it was just an 'I don't like this character and this is why' thread it'd be more acceptable. You can debate with that person and understand them. But to say a character is a cutout or call them worthless? THAT'S character bashing. I think Tenten's pathetic, but I haven't made a thread about it. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
 

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The conflict between sakura and hinata is simply because it will be naruhina vs narusaku until one of them is cannon. Even if its a thread that isnt about parings hinata fans for the most part will dislike sakura and vica versa.
Correction. There will be conflict even after one of them is canon, with the losing side arguing how their pairing made way more sense and how Kishi did a total asspull.
 
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