Old Hiruzen vs Zabuza Momochi

[Tazzilla88]

So according to the databooks Zabuza wanted to fight the gokage.
And well... He's obviously outclassed.
And if we are to give Zabuza his dream in any way he would have to fight an Old Hiruzen with only part one feats and no hype.

Mindset: Zabuza is trying to check things off his bucketlist. Hiruzen is indulging him.
Starting Distance: 15 Meters
Location: Konoha Training Grounds
Do you think Zabuza can defeat Old unhyped Hiruzen?

If not is there any Kage he would defeat.

 

[Naruto9001]

Hiruzen with not much diff. He was able to find Hashirama and Tobirama when they were hiding in BOD so he can find Zabuza though the mist.

 

[Tazzilla88]

I tend to think Hiruzen wins Mid Diff.
Mist won't be a problem.
Suiton is countered by KAton or Doton
Kenjutsu is countered by Monkey King Enma in Diamond Staff form

 

[Kages]

Lol this is why I stopped coming in VS threads.

Hiruzen wins no diff.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Lol this is why I stopped coming in VS threads.

Hiruzen wins no diff.

no diff? Old Hiruzen was strong. But he wasn't leagues above Kakashi. At least unhyped. Which is what I took from him.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

no diff? Old Hiruzen was strong. But he wasn't leagues above Kakashi. At least unhyped. Which is what I took from him.

He almost beat Oro ...

 

[RicardoA]

Even old Hiruzen wins, he was still kage afterall. With help from Enma victory is guaranteed.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hiruzen wins mid diff.

 

[Xakingas]

enma + 3rd would win

 

[Hmph]

the third would win, but anyone who thinks he would have an easy fight is insane. a simple kage-bunshin would shortern his life span after all lmao. and those hokages he fought against were nerfed, so there goes that.

 

[Wind Squid]

Lol this is why I stopped coming in VS threads.

Hiruzen wins no diff.

Zabuza actually has a chance at winning this via surprise mist attack

 

[Tazzilla88]

He almost beat Oro ...

um... No. He almost tied with Orochimaru. Before RDS it was very obvious Orochimaru was stronger.
That said he simply has a counter to Zabuza's arsenal so he should win around Mid Diff.

 

[Curse Mark]

hiruzen med diff.

 

[EZQ]

Zabuza actually has a chance if hiruzen has no knowledge (i find it hard, zabuza was feared around the world, i'm sure hiruzen knew about mist)

 

[Kages]

no diff? Old Hiruzen was strong. But he wasn't leagues above Kakashi. At least unhyped. Which is what I took from him.

Old Hiruzen = Orochimaru

But Orochimaru had Edo Tensei (weakened, but they were still there)

So Old Hiruzen> Oro without Edo Tensei.

Oro>>>>> 3T Kakashi

So Hiruzen >>>>> 3T Kakashi.

Hiruzen was leagues above Kakashi, and Zabuza as well.

Anyone who thinks Zabuza has a chance is out if their minds because Hiruzen is a perfect counter to him.

 

[Penguin]

I wouldn't say Hiruzen > Orochimaru without edos. Part 1 Orochimaru, then everyone gets buffed up part 2. Especially Sannin.

 

[Kages]

I wouldn't say Hiruzen > Orochimaru without edos. Part 1 Orochimaru, then everyone gets buffed up part 2. Especially Sannin.

Well still, Part 1 Oro>>> 3T Kakashi so it doesn't matter.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Can hiruzen hear Zabuza? Is he sensor? If not zabuza takes it easily.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Old Hiruzen = Orochimaru

But Orochimaru had Edo Tensei (weakened, but they were still there)

So Old Hiruzen> Oro without Edo Tensei.

Oro>>>>> 3T Kakashi

So Hiruzen >>>>> 3T Kakashi.

Hiruzen was leagues above Kakashi, and Zabuza as well.

Anyone who thinks Zabuza has a chance is out if their minds because Hiruzen is a perfect counter to him.

That's not really fair to say. He could have killed hiruzen right off the bat but he decided to play around

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This is after Hiruzen used only 4 jutsus 1 of which was a summoning. Another shadow shuriken. Earth Wall. And a Fire Dragon Flame Bullet. He was strained. It took him another chapter and a half of gather his chakra to perform Kage Bunshin no jutsu and Shiki Fuujin. Furthermore that'd also be using A>B>C logic. And Moreover. The only jutsus Orochimaru used were, Edo Tensei and the one which controls the Sword of Kusunagi.

Can hiruzen hear Zabuza? Is he sensor? If not zabuza takes it easily.

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[Icelerate]

Can hiruzen hear Zabuza? Is he sensor? If not zabuza takes it easily.

Hiruzen can use his scent to track Zabuza much like he tracked Hashirama and Tobirama while under the effects of BoD which takes away your eye sight completely unlike the mist which still allows you to see a bit.

OT: Hiruzen wins low-mid difficulty.

The only advantage Zabuza has is stamina, speed and strength but Hiruzen has more experience, intelligence, versitality and taijutsu.
Hiruzen's katons are useless but his doton will help defend from Zabuza's suiton. Zabuza's clones won't help much even if Hiruzen decides not to use any because even part 1 Sasuke took them out easily and Hiruzen did manage to hold his own against poor copies of Hashirama and Tobirama so he should have no trouble against poor copies of Zabuza. Hiruzen will win, if not

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in CQC. As you can see in that scan, Emna can extend itself and since Emna is as hard as diamond, Zabuza's blade isn't parrying it.