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Some of what you said may be all well and good but beating your kids does not teach them a real lesson... sure, it will teach them not to "do it again," but only because they're afraid of getting hit again, not because they understand why what they did is wrong.
 

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LMAO that's very possible, unfortunately. I will hope and try my best to be successful. Then, I'll be okay with failure knowing that I tried. Hell, I am doing it for other people afterall, so life better not screw me hard or that would be beyond bogus. Thanks by the way. :D

What determination :x3:
 

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Its discipline and respect which kids lack and I believe that it is the responsibility of parents for a child's appropriate and successful upbringing. U_U. Unfortunately today, Parents themselves don't have discipline and don't understand morals maybe because of the society around them.-_-
 

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The children are not the one getting aggressive when the refuse to go to church lol. The parents are.
Though I agree children nowadays lack a bit of respect towards their parents.
 

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Sorry, but I'm not going to beat the shit out of my kid to raise him properly.
 

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What determination :x3:

Mehh, I'm not the most driven person; I spend too much time doing non-beneficial things such as being on NB. I could be lazier though. Anyway, enough about me. Hopefully we all learned a thing or two after visiting this thread.
 

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I was rather an obedient child...I was also forced to go to church and stuff, and I was obedient, but have become an emotional wreck. So which is better?
 

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I don't agree with a lot of your points.

1. Religion should not be enforced on children, they have to learn to think for themselves and make personal choices regarding this matter

2. Children should not be physically abused at a young age because it emotionally damages them. A more appropriate punishment must take place rather than hitting

I agree with your other point though.. too much freedom. Cussing is allowed, going out late is allowed, dressing inappropriately is allowed and so much other f*cked up things.

I remember my mum telling me when I was around 12, "My parents told me our generation was going to be a failure" but look at them now, we have Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and thousands of other brilliant people.

Don't worry, this generation is going to be fine.

I agree with your first point, but not going to church at an early age and not disciplining them leads to bad morals as a teen. (unless of course, the parents are atheist, which cancels out the first part)

For your second point, how young is at a young age? If it's 1-4 I agree, but after 4, kids need a little bit of abuse (slap upside the head, spankings, etc.)

Another thing, kids swearing is out of hand, especially to parents and adults. I always encounter this whenever I'm playing a mainstream video game (COD, Battlefield, etc.) which brings me to another point. Why the hell are there kids under 13 on these games? What's a seven year old doing on a M game? They have no idea what a Charizard or Articuno are, which is saddening. Those games allowed me to enjoy my younger childhood (and I still enjoy the Pokemon games), and gave me an imagination.

One more thing, you know it's out of hand when kids are drinking and smoking at 12-13.
 

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If I have a son, I'll teach him how to roll up a blunt and spit at people at the age of 2, I don't give a shit.
And then one day a politician will come up, declare and put a age on smoking... and anyone under the age caught smoking will be arrested. o_O. Plus that would be a disgrace to the guy on your ava
I don't think it's fair to judge parents until you have kids of your own.
I just told you.. "From what i see".
Some parents can abuse that and it just creates hate towards them. A slap would do just fine though :)
Thats what I meant. ;x Of course I agree some parents do abuse it. But once in a while is pretty fine.
The example you chose to prove your point was a bad one. Religious beliefs are something people tend to be rather passionate about regardless of whether they believe it or not. No atheist would want to be forced to church. Overall i get what youre saying, but its a different scenario for everybody. Some kids dont owe their parents anything.
1. Your a child.... you do as your parent tells you to... Sure when you grow up you can change.. but if your kid you really don't have the authority. Now if its something like "killing" or "drugs" then thats a different story. Whats wrong with church? or temple? those are places for a peaceful community... especially for kids.

2. Of course its a different scenario. But I'm just saying that kids of today need to learn respect. Whether its in school or at home or somewhere else.


The really sad thing is how the following generations will be even more pitiful, assuming that things won't change for the better.

By the way, don't be bias, man. Tell the truth, you're Asian or Indian (not Native American)? Well, I'm sure that you guys have your issues as well.

I'm Samoan/Indian/Mexican.... Raised as a American. Nothing more or less. I got to temple and church. Not that i believe in em.. but cause my parents feel better when i go along with them. Its a family kind of a thing.

Indians: Arrange marriage issues

Chinese Japenese: used to be arrange marriage issues.. but now its just being strict to studies and work.

I don't agree with a lot of your points.

1. Religion should not be enforced on children, they have to learn to think for themselves and make personal choices regarding this matter

2. Children should not be physically abused at a young age because it emotionally damages them. A more appropriate punishment must take place rather than hitting

I agree with your other point though.. too much freedom. Cussing is allowed, going out late is allowed, dressing inappropriately is allowed and so much other f*cked up things.

I remember my mum telling me when I was around 12, "My parents told me our generation was going to be a failure" but look at them now, we have Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and thousands of other brilliant people.

Don't worry, this generation is going to be fine.
1. Then they should not be sent to school. Religion is nothing but school. Kids learn the "Big bang theory".. so there is something wrong with learning about something spiritual? And how is going to church with your parents.. just to show respect to them.. enforcing religion? You can go there and not believe in it..

2. even animals hit their kids ;x. lmao. "hitting" teaches a child whats wrong or not. This "spoiled" generation is really lacking that.

Oh your a old guy. lol. Well sir, my generation puts your generation to shame. There are a whole lot of things my generation does that are just... shameful. Of course our generation has brilliant people in it. But majority wise? lol no. In the direction we are.. its going to be a failure.



Although some of your points are valid,

I don't agree with the "beating" part, because African American/Hispanic/Whites usually use that parenting style.

There's no "downfall", it's only the beginning of a change,

Society is changing, kids are changing, and therefore parenting needs to change.

You can't tell a child "your going to church" and not stress "why" church is so important.

When it comes to raising a kid, you can't use "rigid" parenting, it will not work with today's kids.

For example,

You're constantly told "Respect your elders", BUT, are the elders "respectable"?Do they behave like "elders"?

The world as we know it, is changing at a fast pace, so either you hold on to your "old age values", or "change" your parenting style along with the world.
1. ACtually.. the whole "moving out" thing has been going on for a long time.. but it wasn't at the rate as it is today. And especially not at a young age.

2. You actually can..tell a kid why church is important.. As far as I know.. church is whole lot better then schools (not the teachers , but the surroundings) right now... Spiritual life just teaches peace and etc. Nothing wrong with that. In fact those ideas lead to great men. Once you grow up you start making your own choices of course. And then you tell your parents that you can't do that anymore. But saying, " HELL NAH I'M NOT GOING TO THAT SHITTY PLACE".. now thats just rude...

3. "It will not work on today's kids".. IT WILL WORK, IF PEOPLE TRY.... A parent hits their kid for doing something bad.. the child says something to his/her teacher.. she files a complaint about parent abuse.. ITS BECAUSE THE FREAKING KIDS ARE GETTING SPOILED.

4. If you think the current change is good for the world? Then the United States of America = Place of Terrorism.

And I'm not a parent, a scholar.

I was rather an obedient child...I was also forced to go to church and stuff, and I was obedient, but have become an emotional wreck. So which is better?


You were a great kid to your parents then. I respect you. "Emotional wreck". ahaha I feel you. I used to cry when my dad yelled at me AHAHAHA man old memories. But uh to counter that you just gotta you know tell them not to be mean or w.e :D Plus I'm sure your not a kid anymore.
 
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1. Your a child.... you do as your parent tells you to... Sure when you grow up you can change.. but if your kid you really don't have the authority. Now if its something like "killing" or "drugs" then thats a different story. Whats wrong with church? or temple? those are places for a peaceful community... especially for kids.

2. Of course its a different scenario. But I'm just saying that kids of today need to learn respect. Whether its in school or at home or somewhere else.
As a child you do the things a parent tells you to a certain extent. Im 17, so what youre saying very much applies to me currently. I am respectful for the most part to my parents. I dont cuss around them, i show up on time, dont stay out past curfew and help around the house. But when it comes to decisions that they make that arent in my best interest, i usually dont comply. This is mainly probably because i am vastly different and have different views than both of my parents. At the end of the day im an individual and i really dont understand doing things simply because you are asked to do them. And whats wrong with church is that if you have atheistic beliefs than church is not likely to be an enjoyable experience. There are plenty of other productive, peaceful things you can have your kid do other than religious practices. I agree with your last statement, although i believe youre generalizing a tad too much.
 

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As a child you do the things a parent tells you to a certain extent. Im 17, so what youre saying very much applies to me currently. I am respectful for the most part to my parents. I dont cuss around them, i show up on time, dont stay out past curfew and help around the house. But when it comes to decisions that they make that arent in my best interest, i usually dont comply. This is mainly probably because i am vastly different and have different views than both of my parents. At the end of the day im an individual and i really dont understand doing things simply because you are asked to do them. And whats wrong with church is that if you have atheistic beliefs than church is not likely to be an enjoyable experience. There are plenty of other productive, peaceful things you can have your kid do other than religious practices. I agree with your last statement, although i believe youre generalizing a tad too much.
Religion is now being enforced because parents have the mentality that out their is bad (Drugs, and gangs).. so they think by making you go to church and etc is good.

Also, church is fun bro. o.o You don't have to believe in the stuff they do. But you can enjoy the music and etc. I do know the preaching and etc gets annoying when they have different ideals. I got to temple and church for my parents, but I just focus on the good points.

Every religion has a lesson to be taught.
 

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Religion is now being enforced because parents have the mentality that out their is bad (Drugs, and gangs).. so they think by making you go to church and etc is good.

Also, church is fun bro. o.o You don't have to believe in the stuff they do. But you can enjoy the music and etc. I do know the preaching and etc gets annoying when they have different ideals. I got to temple and church for my parents, but I just focus on the good points.

Every religion has a lesson to be taught.
Yeah fortunately the place i live in doesnt have to worry all that much about illegal activities as far as gangs go. Kids party and do drugs but thats just part of growing up and every kid is going to do it at some point. I agree with you on religion having many benefits. The morals and principals they lay down usually can be applied to everyday life and can make you a better person. But church isnt for me, and ive never really needed help distinguishing right from wrong. Everyone differs obviously
 

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Yeah fortunately the place i live in doesnt have to worry all that much about illegal activities as far as gangs go. Kids party and do drugs but thats just part of growing up and every kid is going to do it at some point. I agree with you on religion having many benefits. The morals and principals they lay down usually can be applied to everyday life and can make you a better person. But church isnt for me, and ive never really needed help distinguishing right from wrong. Everyone differs obviously
Yea I gotcha man. I haven't done drugs bahahahaha :D.

But as long as we agree on the main parts ;]
 

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Spoiling a child has nothing to do with not beating them or not forcing one to go to church. That will only cause both physical and emotional/mental trauma, and I feel extremely sorry for your future children.

Showing your child the difference between right and wrong, and learning things like self-restraint, honesty, diligence...is much more important, than "showing off" how your kid goes to church. Children shouldn't feel that they owe their parents anything, they should feel a desire to return love in gratitude for what their parent has done for them.
 
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I agree with this to some point. Kids these days are jerks, and for the longest time seeing other peoples kids made me never want to have any of my own. I can't believe some of the things I see when I go out to the store or wherever. Kids are way too spoiled. Nowadays you can't punish your child or it's considered abuse and the parents can get into trouble. I think this is a load of crap. The Bible teaches you that if you love your child you will discipline them in a proper way. I agree with this. It's true my girls are spoiled, but they know better than to act in a bad way and if they do mess up they are spanked. We are very old school around my household, we take no crap from our kids but we show them respect and in return we recieve that same respect. We also teach them right from wrong, and don't sugar coat things but still keep it age appropriate so that they can understand. Some people just shouldn't have kids either I have noticed. Sometimes instead of wanting to slap someone elses kid for acting a fool I wanna slap the parent for continuously letting them act that way. I miss the values of the olden days. I know that the world is changing and parents want their kids to have more freedom, but I think it should be done more responsibly.
 

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Spoiling a child has nothing to do with not beating them or not forcing one to go to church. That will only cause both physical and emotional/mental trauma, and I feel extremely sorry for your future children.

Showing your child the difference between right and wrong, and learning things like self-restraint, honesty, diligence...is much more important, than "showing off" how your kid goes to church. Children shouldn't feel that they owe their parents anything, they should feel a desire to return love in gratitude for what their parent has done for them.

o_O.... I turned perfectly fine..... you can look at all the presidents of the U.S.... or any other leaders of the olden times. No matter what the time.. Parenting has always been the same.
 

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king words have merit but i have also noticed parent becoming ever more foolish arrogant and self denial

i hear the words treat other the way u want to be treated but that doesnt seem to apply to adults tell the truth take responsibility

heard it alot from parents and adults when i was younger but have i seen it from them nope

and they say dont make excuses well guess what excuse adults love to make regardless of whatever they do or done


they love to say BECAUSE IM AN ADULT THAT! thankfully i was born in the early 90's now those late 90's and 2000 kids man they need discipline
 
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