Sasuke DOES NOT HAVE TSUKUYOMI!! ABSOLUTE PROOF!! HUGE MISCONCEPTION!

[The God of Wind]

That is not relevant? You are posting quite the third-grade stuck up rubbish now. The only person belching out nonsense, is you. I have told you to look into Shinto alignments, you call that nonsense. I have shown you this scan with clear cut Yin/Yang and light/darkness associations, you call that nonsense. You disregard Databook as nonsense. But you are right? Yeah, sure.

Yeah, so Kishi named MS Jutsu's after Shinto God's, how does that help you?

I am quite aware, it is a strong foothold for my argument. Kagutsuchi is also a Shinto God, which puts it up there with all the other MS jutsu's. Proving my point that it is in fact Sasuke's second eye power.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Yeah, so Kishi named MS Jutsu's after Shinto God's, how does that help you?

I am quite aware, it is a strong foothold for my argument. Kagutsuchi is also a Shinto God, which puts it up there with all the other MS jutsu's. Proving my point that it is in fact Sasuke's second eye power.

Its not his 2nd eye power because chakra nature kekkei genkei.

Similar to other Mangekyō Sharingan abilities, Kagutsuchi's name is derived from Japanese myth and religion. Kagutsuchi is the God of Fire in Shinto and the one who brought death into the world by burning his mother Izanami to death as she gave birth to him. This made his father, Izanagi, kill him with the Totsuka sword.

Now i gove that kagutsuchi is a god of shinto but it is not a MS jutsu its a jutsu granted by blaze release kekkei genkei which in theory can only mastered by an ms user

his 1st ms ability is Tsukuyomi and his 2nd Amaterasu he masters blaze release chakra nature in this time too

 

[shelke]

Yeah, so Kishi named MS Jutsu's after Shinto God's, how does that help you?

I am quite aware, it is a strong foothold for my argument. Kagutsuchi is also a Shinto God, which puts it up there with all the other MS jutsu's. Proving my point that it is in fact Sasuke's second eye power.

Disprove Databook ALL you want. It's created by the author and is irrefutable. I am off this thread as it's getting quite redundant now.

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[The God of Wind]

Disprove Databook ALL you want. It's created by the author and is irrefutable. I am off this thread as it's getting quite redundant now.

P.s: You are on my friends list? |:

uhhm I am not arguing against the DB. All I'm saying is that the 3rd DB's info stops at Itachi and his Susanoo and refers only to him and his techniques. Simply making it outdated but not wrong.

 

[htmwall]

Its not his 2nd eye power because chakra nature kekkei genkei.

Similar to other Mangekyō Sharingan abilities, Kagutsuchi's name is derived from Japanese myth and religion. Kagutsuchi is the God of Fire in Shinto and the one who brought death into the world by burning his mother Izanami to death as she gave birth to him. This made his father, Izanagi, kill him with the Totsuka sword.

Now i gove that kagutsuchi is a god of shinto but it is not a MS jutsu its a jutsu granted by blaze release kekkei genkei which in theory can only mastered by an ms user

his 1st ms ability is Tsukuyomi and his 2nd Amaterasu he masters blaze release chakra nature in this time too

whenever an uchiha uses a MS ability they pop out their eyes and veins will appear.
here's sasuke using blaze release through his right eye

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and here he uses amaterasu with his left eye.

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so blaze release is sasuke's right eye ability.and amaterasu is his left.
and he never has shown tsukuyomi only powerful genjutsu.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

uhhm I am not arguing against the DB. All I'm saying is that the 3rd DB's info stops at Itachi and his Susanoo and refers only to him and his techniques. Simply making it outdated but not wrong.

But this argument this entire thread is not about susanoo its about whether or not sasuke has tsukuyomi and you've insulted everyone who doesnt share your opinion. which makes you look like a jackass

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

whenever an uchiha uses a MS ability they pop out their eyes and veins will appear.
here's sasuke using blaze release through his right eye

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and here he uses amaterasu with his left eye.

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so blaze release is sasuke's right eye ability.and amaterasu is his left.

Blaze release is a kekkei genkei every time sasuke has used genjustu his ms has been activated and there is no evedence MS enhances basic sharingan tech

 

[htmwall]

Blaze release is a kekkei genkei every time sasuke has used genjustu his ms has been activated and there is no evedence MS enhances basic sharingan tech

where did you get the idea of blaze release being a kkg?
it is obvious that it is his right eye ability that's why he was able to control amaterasu way more better than itachi ever did,even if he just used it for one day.
and for evidence for MS enhancing sharingan abilities here is this

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the more they get dark the more they get powerful,when sasuke had awakened his MS,he became dark.
thus his eye powers became more powerful including his genjutsu

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

where did you get the idea of blaze release being a kkg?
it is obvious that it is his right eye ability that's why he was able to control amaterasu way more better than itachi ever did,even if he just used it for one day.
and for evidence for MS enhancing sharingan abilities here is this

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the more they get dark the more they get powerful,when sasuke had awakened his MS,he became dark.
thus his eye powers became more powerful including his genjutsu

Where did i get the idea. Because blaze release is one of Sasukes chakra natures. and pare your "proof" thats talking about 1 tomoe to 2 to 3 to ms to ems. the the evolutionary chain of the sharingan

 

[htmwall]

Where did i get the idea. Because blaze release is one of Sasukes chakra natures. and pare your "proof" thats talking about 1 tomoe to 2 to 3 to ms to ems. the the evolutionary chain of the sharingan

if it is his chakra nature why he didn't used it before awakening the MS?why,simply because it's a MS ability!
and my proof hit the right spot,it never specified the sharingan evolution,it was only stating a general fact,you just made a mere assumption out of it.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

if it is his chakra nature why he didn't used it before awakening the MS?why,simply because it's a MS ability!
and my proof hit the right spot,it never specified the sharingan evolution,it was only stating a general fact,you just made a mere assumption out of it.

You obviously did not read what i said at all i said and i quote "Its not his 2nd eye power because its chakra nature kekkei genkei.

Similar to other Mangekyō Sharingan abilities, Kagutsuchi's name is derived from Japanese myth and religion. Kagutsuchi is the God of Fire in Shinto and the one who brought death into the world by burning his mother Izanami to death as she gave birth to him. This made his father, Izanagi, kill him with the Totsuka sword.

Now i gove that kagutsuchi is a god of shinto but it is not a MS jutsu its a jutsu granted by blaze release kekkei genkei which in theory can only mastered by an ms user

his 1st ms ability is Tsukuyomi and his 2nd Amaterasu he masters blaze release chakra nature in this time too" end quote

you and op make the Assumption That sasukes genjutsu isnt tsukuyomi so dont even try it. more evedence there are two blaze release jutsus hows does Sasukes eye the have multiple justu then thats my point

 

[htmwall]

You obviously did not read what i said at all i said and i quote "Its not his 2nd eye power because its chakra nature kekkei genkei.

Similar to other Mangekyō Sharingan abilities, Kagutsuchi's name is derived from Japanese myth and religion. Kagutsuchi is the God of Fire in Shinto and the one who brought death into the world by burning his mother Izanami to death as she gave birth to him. This made his father, Izanagi, kill him with the Totsuka sword.

Now i gove that kagutsuchi is a god of shinto but it is not a MS jutsu its a jutsu granted by blaze release kekkei genkei which in theory can only mastered by an ms user

his 1st ms ability is Tsukuyomi and his 2nd Amaterasu he masters blaze release chakra nature in this time too" end quote

you and op make the Assumption That sasukes genjutsu isnt tsukuyomi so dont even try it. more evedence there are two blaze release jutsus hows does Sasukes eye the have multiple justu then thats my point

two blaze release jutsus,are just because blaze release is the ability to control amaterasu flames and shape them in any form,of course it will have many jutsus,but in the end it's the same thing,just like obito he has the ability to warp stuff in or out of his dimension and send parts of his body to it,it seems different,but it is still the same MS ability:kamui.
and as for sasuke having tsukiyomi,itachi used it just one day after awakening it effectively at the age of 13 on sasuke,and he manipulated time within it.while what we've seen from sasuke until now as genjutsu even having more practice with the MS,was really weak compared to what we have seen from 13 years old itachi.so it's safe to assume that tsukuyomi is reserved to itachi,unless you say that current sasuke is way below kid itachi in genjutsu.

 

[KingHashirama]

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And then he used one from his LEFT eye that caused the same type of strain as before. So are they both Tsukuyomi? NO! Neither of those Genjutsu were Tsukuyomi.

I don't see the Tsukuyomi shown or any genjutsu shown in your pic...
Also, notice how the emphasis made by the scan is on his right eye.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

two blaze release jutsus,are just because blaze release is the ability to control amaterasu flames and shape them in any form,of course it will have many jutsus,but in the end it's the same thing,just like obito he has the ability to warp stuff in or out of his dimension and send parts of his body to it,it seems different,but it is still the same MS ability:kamui.
and as for sasuke having tsukiyomi,itachi used it just one day after awakening it effectively at the age of 13 on sasuke,and he manipulated time within it.while what we've seen from sasuke until now as genjutsu even having more practice with the MS,was really weak compared to what we have seen from 13 years old itachi.so it's safe to assume that tsukuyomi is reserved to itachi,unless you say that current sasuke is way below kid itachi in genjutsu.

Its already been stated sasuke had a larger chakra reserve than itachi. Susanoos requirements is it jutsu that represents "darkness of the spiritual world" (tsukuyomi) and "light of the material world" (amaterasu). Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is weaker than itachis primarely because For one hhe asnt had it that long for two hes not a genjutsu specialist. but Danzo compared sasukes tsukuyomi to itachis. Every susanoos diferent why cant the effect of tsukuyomi be different