Third raikage vs 2nd hokage

[Penguin]

Nice counter! Tobirama can take this. Raiton is not > to Suiton. This is not Pokemon.

 

[Kages]

Raikage wins by feats. But Tobirama probably wins.

 

[Medical Sage Tsunade]

railkage wins mid diff

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Well, since Tobirama's mind>>>>Naruto's mind

how so? hes older but he seems like a bigoted racist rather than any kind of calm minded fighter

Raiton is not > to Suiton. This is not Pokemo

it stopped suigetsu's transformation and running raiton along mei's suiton enabled kages to electrocute madara. so if tobiramas suiton comes from his mouth third can put his hand in the river and run it back to the source

Here we find out that it is Tobirama who discovered both the reason for the sharingan eye and its connection to Uchiha emotions.

he could have been TOLD that by an uchiha under his reign. maybe he asked them why the sharingan appears. no proof he discovered some secret alone

Yes the Raikage is nigh invincible, but he's a close-range fighter

that matters little considering his inhuman speed and reflexes

He can see the scar, first of all, so he knows the Raikage can be hurt.

unlike naruto he wouldnt have figured out raikage's skin is invulnerable int he first place. water dragon would just slide right away from him. and tobiramas shown no other attacks

he can at least keep the Raikage at bay with what we can assume are massive water techs

as i said he can flow his raiton into the suiton. it has nowhere to go but the source

edo summon(s), he can deduce that both the Raikage's defense and offense seem unbeatable.

or he thinks raiton armour is doing all the work and tries to counter that. he wouldnt realise that its the third's iron skin that is the ultimate shield

herefore a functioning edo can keep coming back just as much as the Raikage resists attacks

or it sits around paralysed by electricity. as per kage's plan to stop madara from absorbing

 

[Joki]

With hype Tobirama is even slightly comparable with the current god tiers, he craps on 3rd Raikage easily. Also lol at the "3rd raikage rapes anyone who can't use fuuton because only fuuton is capable of damaging him" logic.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

thats what the manga told us. your saying dodai, the most knowledgable guy in the cloud, lied for no reason? thats just as massive a hype as anything tobiramas got

 

[DemonicAvenger]

lol utter stomp. unless you have fuuton how can you hurt third?

- Bijudama and variants

- PS Slash

- Daikodan

- Amaterasu

Ect. Ect.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Bijudama and variants

already failed

PS Slash

a thousand microscopic slashes on the cellular level failed. if raiton armour keeps out cellular damage, a shockwave from a sword does jack all

Amaterasu

raiton no yoroi kept out FRS's thousand microscopic blades and cellular damage. burn at the armour all it likes. raikage can just activate more when it burns through

 

[RicardoA]

water is a conduct for lightening go back to pre-school

Don't flame me but in Naruto Raiton isn't > Suiton.
The strongest technique decides who win in this case. Since we haven't seen Tobirama in real action for now i say Third Raikage.

 

[Marios]

Tobirama obviously.

The way Kishi portrays the manga: other Kage < MS Madara = MS Izuna <= Tobirama < Hashirama.
And I don't see why someone smart wouldn't ask themself if the strong shield could resist the strong spear.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Tobirama is no Hashirama, but he is up there. He rivalled the Uchiha for years, did he not?

3rd raikage is simply not on that level.

 

[Omnipotent]

I'm going with... Tobirama.

 

[ItachiStyle]

We have too few feats for Tobirama to really know... rep wise, the implication is he was stronger, but we need more feats... which we shall soon get methinks.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Tobirama obviously.

The way Kishi portrays the manga: other Kage < MS Madara = MS Izuna <= Tobirama < Hashirama

tobirama has literally done nothing in 500 chapters. he gets torn apart in less than a second

Tobirama is no Hashirama, but he is up there. He rivalled the Uchiha for years

utterly no proof of that. meaning you literally just made shit up out of your ass. and fodder uchiha =/= onyl man who can take a biju hand to hand without seals

 

[Joki]

thats what the manga told us. your saying dodai, the most knowledgable guy in the cloud, lied for no reason? thats just as massive a hype as anything tobiramas got

Who said he lied? Kishi>Dodai and Kishi has said only an Uchiha can beat another Uchiha and only a sannin can beat another serious sannin. There's such thing as fallacious claims in the manga, you're making one.

I like your sig, LolRaditz, I guess since he doesn't have any fuuton he gets raped by 3rd Raikage since he can't damage him.

 

[ItachiStyle]

Raditz could probably solo most of the JLA. Superman's strength is probably a good match for Saiyan Saga Vegeta. By the end of that manga they're basically gods.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Kishi has said only an Uchiha can beat another Uchiha

where? if your referring to itachi, itachi said this, not kishi

By the end of that manga they're basically gods.

and so is superman in some incarnations

There's such thing as fallacious claims in the manga

unlike the sannin and uchiha example, dodai is an unbiased third party with knowledge on all of third's battles and abilities. even hachibis attacks had no effect. and fuuton, the ultimate counter to raiton armour, failed

 

[Icelerate]

I don't have an opinion on this match up but I have two questions, one for Joki and one for USSJ.

@Joki, How exactly is Tobirama, by hype, close to demi god level?

@USSJ, A perfect susanoo sword slash will do serious damage on 3rd Raikage and multiple will kill him. Why do you think otherwise when the hell stab, a vastly inferior tech compared to PSSS managed to penetrate through the 3rd Raikage like a hot knife into butter?

If the hell stab can gravely injure the 3rd Raikage, I see no reason why the perfect susanoo, which has better hype than the hell stab and is much more powerful going by feats, can't do anything. Unless of course you think the hell stab can slice multiple mountains with ease.

 

[Joki]

where? if your referring to itachi, itachi said this, not kishi


unlike the sannin and uchiha example, dodai is an unbiased third party with knowledge on all of third's battles and abilities. even hachibis attacks had no effect. and fuuton, the ultimate counter to raiton armour, failed

If you had not blatantly erased half my post, Kishi did indeed explicitly say only Sannin can beat other Sannin. How the hell is Dodai's opinion more relevant than Kishi? Also glad to see you agree 3rd Raikage shits on Raditz easily since he has no fuuton, it's not like you ignored that part because you realized how ridiculously fallacious your argument was or anything.

I don't have an opinion on this match up but I have two questions, one for Joki and one for USSJ.

@Joki, How exactly is Tobirama, by hype, close to demi god level?

@USSJ, A perfect susanoo sword slash will do serious damage on 3rd Raikage and multiple will kill him. Why do you think otherwise when the hell stab, a vastly inferior tech compared to PSSS managed to penetrate through the 3rd Raikage like a hot knife into butter?

If the hell stab can gravely injure the 3rd Raikage, I see no reason why the perfect susanoo, which has better hype than the hell stab and is much more powerful going by feats, can't do anything. Unless of course you think the hell stab can slice multiple mountains with ease.

Because unlike Nagato and co who were completely bound by Kabuto's far inferior ET and turned into complete mindless drones by Kabuto effortlessly, Tobirama actually resisted Orochimaru's senju enhanced Edo Tensei to some extent, that hype alone puts him at at least comparable level to the top tiers.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

utterly no proof of that. meaning you literally just made shit up out of your ass. and fodder uchiha =/= onyl man who can take a biju hand to hand without seals

You'll get your feats soon enough.

The senju brothers grew up fighting. They were fighting adults as children.