Jiraya beating Itachi and Kisame at once?

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When and where? Im pretty sure he escaped the genjutsu when he fought the fake Itachi (although it was a % of his power but still)

he actually didn't sakura and chiyo had to help him on that one and that's not even tsukuyomi
 

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But what's stopping Itachi from using amaterasu at the toad summons while they are fighting kisame and remember it took jiraya a longtime to summon them would itachi n kisame give him that much time?

u forget j man has genjutsu also with his fusion with ma and pa and j man is crafty enough to figure it out because he outclass them in experience
 

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proof or stfu

Read the Manga retard he never wanted to harm Konoha, killing Jiraiya would've done the opposite. He only went there to remind Danzo he was still alive and not to harm Sasuke.
 

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itachi and kisame were talking about naruto the 9tails jinchuriki whom they didnt have any info about his abilities
like he just beatup gaara

There's no way they were talking about a little dumb naruto who to that point had not even reached one tailed level yet, they were talking about jiraya...itachi even said that everyone has a weakness which is when they got a girl to keep jiraya busy to avoid fighting him
 

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Itachi did not want any conflict that's all.
 

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u forget j man has genjutsu also with his fusion with ma and pa and j man is crafty enough to figure it out because he outclass them in experience

But can't itachi just use amaterasu on the three of them? the sound genjutsu also takes awhile...and also like i said it takes awhile to summon the two toads...can jiraya survive with his hands together against itachi's susano, amaterasu and so on along with kisame
 

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There's no way they were talking about a little dumb naruto who to that point had not even reached one tailed level yet, they were talking about jiraya...itachi even said that everyone has a weakness which is when they got a girl to keep jiraya busy to avoid fighting him

this^^ .........................
 

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Itachi did not want any conflict that's all.

True too but the two of them still did go after naruto, they didn't have to fool jiraya with a woman and find naruto alone to make themselves heard. Roughing up kakashi back at the river is enough to let themselves be known.
 

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proof or u pulling this out your azz

Here's the link to what he's talking about, check the spoiler about chapter 144:



Unfortunately, he didn't get it completely right. Its not that they were talking about Jiraiya the whole time, but they were actually talking about Kyuubi or a fully realized Naruto Jinchuurinki in the beginning. So the part about Jiraiya = Itachi + Kisame was accurate in the translation, its just the first couple panels that were translated very wrong.
 

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I wrote a theory about this 2 times long ago. Since Itachi went to konohagakure to send Danzo a message and wasnt really interested in capturing the kyuubi he likely didnt go all out.
 

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I also think Itahci might have been given information from Akatsuki to Jiraya.
 

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itachi did say that but he's a liar ,so U_U
 

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Jeez, it's been discussed several times, Itachi was lying to Kisame coz he was protecting Konoha and its interests the whole time.
 

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Itachi, solos, fused-kasime almost solos, this is a joke
 

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The whole Kisame fusion thing is irrelevant...Jiraiya's FROGS take care of him so he basically just has to worry about Itachi. People may be right in assuming that Itachi was lying, fine...but Kisame had no reason to lie. He knows wassup if he fought Jiraiya.
 

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kishi hadnt yet planned how strong to make itachi that's all, there's a big discrepancy between part one and two.

in shippuden, kishi made itachi and jiraiya equals. equal score in databook, same manner and time of death, similar life and feats. itachi had just had a lot more screentime because he's more important to the story, and got shown as a free edo tensei. jiraiya's feats are largely off panel including over a hundred s-rank missions. itachi has the edge in genjutsu and ms, jiraiya has the edge in bunshin and sm, itachi is smarter, jiraiya is more versatile in tactics and strategy. it could go either way.
 

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You wishing too hard there lol I love Jiraiya but I doubt he can beat Itachi, if you put Kisame in the mix Jiraiya won't stand a chance.
 

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Itachi needed Kimsame because he's weak. J-man was powerful as hell, he almost beat all of the 6 Paths of Pain.
 
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