Additional Info To Support SO6P Was An Uzumaki Theory

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"They ate The Chakara Rich Flesh of The 9 Tails and survived.... A man from our Village had eaten the 8 Tails Legs and died.... Those 2 Brothers are exceptional....They must be related to the SO6P...." Raikage A about Kinkaku and Ginkaku

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Kinkaku and Ginkaku had high Chakra reserves and later survived even after being swallowed by Kurama and were able to use Kurama's Chakra(Nine-tails cloak)

They could use the Treasured Tools Of The SO6P with great Proficiency....
The Treasured Tools of the SO6P are a set of powerful tools, said to have once been wielded by the SO6P himself. They are considered the most powerful Shinobi Tools.Each of these items demonstrates unusual and distinctive abilities, however, their usage consumes an enormous amount of chakra, so much so that a normal human could die if they used them.

The above info can be useful to prove that the SO6P was an Uzumaki....

When you have a look below at the Naruto World Map.... The Land Of Whirlpools was nearest to the Land Of Fire.... Plus The Uzumaki's were on good terms with the Senju.... So it was obvious for the remaining survivers to relocate there following The destruction of The Land Of Whirlpools....

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But any Land Of Whirlpools Shinobi had direct access to 3 of the great nations.... The closest was The Land of Fire.... Then The Land Of Mist and The Land Of Lightning were other 2 great nations to which the Uzumakis had access to....

At some point of time between The death of SO6P and The destruction of The Land Of Whirlpools some of the Uzumakis
settled in different parts of the world and especially in The Land of Mist and The Land of Lightning....

Slowly their linage started to dissolve and along with it the name Uzumaki....The last survivers could only be recognized because of their immense Chakra reserves.... 2 of them being Kinkaku and Ginkaku....

So I think that Kinkaku's and Ginkaku's immense Chakra Reserves and the fact that they survived eating the 9 Tail's inside flesh after being swallowed by him as well as their ability to use Kurama's Chakra(9 Tails Cloak) is a hint of their Uzumaki Lineage and their ability to use The Treasured Tools Of The SO6P with such ease and The Raikage's words are a hint that The SO6P was an Uzumaki....

Hope You Enjoyed The Theory.... :D :D
 
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muh....you are letting me thinking :)
 

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Yeah, I think kishi hid their eyebrows and hair for a reason. + rep

EDIT: those horns resembles the RDS shinigami. The hair (it looks like a wig thing) is even shaped the same :)
 
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naah the sage can't BE a uzumaki he was around when ninjas or clans didn't even exist. If anything uzumaki's just came from him
 

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What A said was assumption and not fact, it bears no credibility. The Reasons they can use those tools with proficiency as seen during the war is because they had high chakra reserves due to the kyuubi's influence. I don't see it being such a great feat when Darui was also able to use them with ease. The Sage's death occurred centuries before the Uzumaki clan was destroyed being that konoha was founded 80years prior to the present. You have no proof that Gin and Kin had any blood relation to the uzumaki, and also the sage wasn't an uzumaki, but came from a line of priest according to the manga.
 

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But the uzumaki village was still around, when the gold and silver brothers were alive. The destruction of the uzumakis, happened probably around the time obito was born, and when kushina came to konoha.
 

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well thats not possible cuz their were no clans at the time wen SO6P was there...:p
 

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What A said was assumption and not fact, it bears no credibility. The Reasons they can use those tools with proficiency as seen during the war is because they had high chakra reserves due to the kyuubi's influence. I don't see it being such a great feat when Darui was also able to use them with ease. The Sage's death occurred centuries before the Uzumaki clan was destroyed being that konoha was founded 80years prior to the present. You have no proof that Gin and Kin had any blood relation to the uzumaki, and also the sage wasn't an uzumaki, but came from a line of priest according to the manga.

Look at it from Kishi's perspective. He wouldn't just state something like that if it wasn't possible. They also possessed the sage's tools. Where do you think they got it from? Also their heads resembles the hair and horns of the shinagami of the RDS, which is an Uzumaki sealing tech. Their hair and eyebrows are covered, so they might have red hair.

Kurama said that the only reason Naruto could make a link to his chakra was because he had Kushina's blood. Now that sounds like only Uzumaki's are able to handle kurama's chakra.

The manga just said he was a priest. It didn't say he came from a line of priests. Also, you have no proof that clans didn't exist then. We only know shinobi clans didn't exist before the sage. There is something called a family clan too.
 

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What A said was assumption and not fact, it bears no credibility. The Reasons they can use those tools with proficiency as seen during the war is because they had high chakra reserves due to the kyuubi's influence. I don't see it being such a great feat when Darui was also able to use them with ease. The Sage's death occurred centuries before the Uzumaki clan was destroyed being that konoha was founded 80years prior to the present. You have no proof that Gin and Kin had any blood relation to the uzumaki, and also the sage wasn't an uzumaki, but came from a line of priest according to the manga.

Firstly I've said A's words are a hint about Kin and Gin and SO6P being Uzumaki.... I'm not talking from A's POV.... It's just from an audience POV that those words carry a hint of Gin,Kin and SO6P carrying the same heritage perhaps Uzumaki,They already possesed great Chakra Reserves or they wouldn't have survived from Kurama swallowing them and living even after eating hatred rich Kurama's flesh was a feat....Just anyone cannot eat a Tailed Beasts flesh and Survive....Darui did get tired and I'v purposely set the relocation period between those two events.... Cause it takes a really huge time for a clan to dissolve....
 
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But the uzumaki village was still around, when the gold and silver brothers were alive. The destruction of the uzumakis, happened probably around the time obito was born, and when kushina came to konoha.

Seriously Bro.... Why should a Shinobi relocate only when his Land is destroyed....!!!!
 

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Look at it from Kishi's perspective. He wouldn't just state something like that if it wasn't possible. They also possessed the sage's tools. Where do you think they got it from? Also their heads resembles the hair and horns of the shinagami of the RDS, which is an Uzumaki sealing tech. Their hair and eyebrows are covered, so they might have red hair.

Kurama said that the only reason Naruto could make a link to his chakra was because he had Kushina's blood. Now that sounds like only Uzumaki's are able to handle kurama's chakra.

The manga just said he was a priest. It didn't say he came from a line of priests. Also, you have no proof that clans didn't exist then. We only know shinobi clans didn't exist before the sage. There is something called a family clan too.

Thanks.... :D :D
 
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I agree with the theory of the SO6P being an Uzimaki great great grand pappy. It doesnt matter if there weren't any "clans" or "Villages" around when he was alive. In fact, we dont exactly know what a "village" IS in the Naruto universe! Unless Hashirama looks at Sasuke and says "A village is a group of people with same ideals and interests who form a group which build housing or shelters into a close knit community and then surround those dwellings with a wall!" -.- no poop Sherlock! I dont think you have to ba an Uzimaki fan boy to say the Sage was an Uzi. The Uzimaki seemed to be outside the whole Uchiha/Senju rivalry. I dont see it as being a big deal really tho. If he was an Uzi, great! If he wasnt, fantastic! Green jacket, gold jacket? Who gives a flying poop?
 

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Firstly I've said A's words are a hint about Kin and Gin and SO6P being Uzumaki.... I'm not talking from A's POV.... It's just from an audience POV that those words carry a hint of Gin,Kin and SO6P carrying the same heritage perhaps Uzumaki,They already possesed great Chakra Reserves or they wouldn't have survived from Kurama swallowing them and living even after eating hatred rich Kurama's flesh was a feat....Just anyone cannot eat a Tailed Beasts flesh and Survive....Darui did get tired and I'v purposely set the relocation period between those two events.... Cause it takes a really huge time for a clan to dissolve....

What your implying is that anyone with high chakra reserves and the ability to survive (which is where A's speculation is grounded) is related to the Sage. By their character, they were savages and it's no surprise that while inside the kyuubi's throat they'd do anything to survive. Pertaining to Darui, his chakra reserves are great enough to not die of chakra exhaustion after using three of the Treasured Tools of the Sage and still had enough chakra left to continue fighting, hence why i don't see using the tools being a formidable feat of the Kin and Gin Bro's. The Uzumaki clan was destroyed after Kushina . kinKaku and Ginkaku were in kumogakure since the day's of the Second hokage. Vast difference, i think you have an inaccurate time frame.
 
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What your implying is that anyone with high chakra reserves and the ability to survive (which is where A's speculation is grounded). By their character, they were savages and it's no surprise that while inside the kyuubi's throat they'd do anything to survive. Pertaining to Darui, his chakra reserves are great enough to not die of chakra exhaustion after using three of the Treasured Tools of the Sage and still had enough chakra left to continue fighting, hence why i don't see using the tools being a formidable feat of the Kin and Gin Bro's. The Uzumaki clan was destroyed after Kushina . kinKaku and Ginkaku were in kumogakure since the day's of the Second hokage. Vast difference, i think you have an inaccurate time frame.

Capturing 9 Tails was their mission which implies that they weren't rouge or villainous till then.... They became evil after consuming Kurama's hatred/negative energy.... And I'm saying that some Uzumaki's settled down in different parts of the world some time after the death of th SO6P as only then it makes sense why their Lineage dissolved.... When such Uzumaki descendants settled elsewhere and married and got spouses from other clans....Their Clan started getting dissolved.... It takes many years for a clan to dissolve.... For that reason my time frame is huge....
Kin and Gin have Uzumaki Ancestory.... That's what I want to say....
 
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Capturing 9 Tails was their mission which implies that they weren't rouge or villainous till then.... They became evil after conuming Kurama's hatred or negative energy.... And I'm saying that some Uzumaki's settled down in different parts of the world some time after the death of th SO6P as only then it makes sense why their Lineage dissolved.... When such Uzumaki descendants settled elsewhere and married and got spouses from other clans....Their Clan started getting dissolved.... It takes many years for a clan to dissolve.... For that reason my time frame is huge....
Kin and Gin have Uzumaki Ancestory.... That's what I want to say....

Where do you get this information? The Gold and Silver Brothers were the most notorious criminals in the history of Kumogakure, that is what is stated. The kyuubi's malice only affects a Jinchuriki when their in dilemma being that the kyuubi himself persuades the Jinchuriki. Mito clearly stated and proved that even with the Kyuubi sealed inside into the Jinchuriki's life would prevent the kyuubi's hatred to surface. The Uzumaki clan had their own clan and married within their clan, am not sure where you getting the idea that they dispersed after the Sage's death when that was never implied...what proof do you have of this?

When Kushina clearly stated that , sometime after , she was still young then and the few survivors were scattered. Your time frame is inaccurate.
 

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The brothers were the only ones "outside" the Uzumakis who became successful Jinchuurikis of Kurama, albeit pseudo-Jinchuurikis, and since they were said to be related to the Sage, well you guys get the picture. xd
 

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The brothers were the only ones "outside" the Uzumakis who became successful Jinchuurikis of Kurama,albeit pseudo-Jinchuurikis , and since they were said to be related to the Sage, well you get the picture. xd

Where was it said that Kin and Gin were Jinchuriki of the 9 Tails? Are you making more speculative propositions? A Jinchuriki is an individual with a tailed beast sealed within them. If your referring to the fact that they were able to infuse the kyuubi's Yin and Yang chakra with their own and use it as a weapon in battle, it's nothing short of what naruto has done with the shinobi alliance, save that they were able to stabilize, rejuvenate and balance the chakra with their own. Doesn't make them a Jinchuriki.
 

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Where do you get this information? The Gold and Silver Brothers were the most notorious criminals in the history of Kumogakure, that is what is stated. The kyuubi's malice only affects a Jinchuriki when their in dilemma being that the kyuubi himself persuades the Jinchuriki. Mito clearly stated and proved that even with the Kyuubi sealed inside into the Jinchuriki's life would prevent the kyuubi's hatred to surface. The Uzumaki clan had their own clan and married within their clan, am not sure where you getting the idea that they dispersed after the Sage's death when that was never implied...what proof do you have of this?

When Kushina clearly stated that , sometime after , she was still young then and the few survivors were scattered. Your time frame is inaccurate.

If you go on marrying in your own clan.... the clan will get really small and there will come a time that you have to marry an outsider or you will have to marry your own cousins(This one is sure absurd as you cannot marry your own cousins).... And regarding Gin and Kin....
Raikage said - "During their era The Hidden Cloud tried to capture the Nine Tailed Fox.Apparently the Fox swallowed the two of them." which implies they were trying to capture Kurama on orders of The Hidden Cloud(That time's Raikage).

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Where was it said that Kin and Gin were Jinchuriki of the 9 Tails? Are you making more speculative propositions? A Jinchuriki is an individual with a tailed beast sealed within them. If your referring to the fact that they were able to infuse the kyuubi's Yin and Yang chakra with their own and use it as a weapon in battle, it's nothing short of what naruto has done with the shinobi alliance, save that they were able to stabilize, rejuvenate and balance the chakra with their own. Doesn't make them a Jinchuriki.

Oh come now, you don't think they didn't become pseudo-jinchuurikis when one of them transformed? xd

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The thing speaks for itself, the word is pseudo and no it's not the same as "chakra transfer" like what Naruto did.
 
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