Killer Bee vs Gaara,Konkuro,Temari

[Champ]

The person who used the raiton to do that is much better at it than bee,and A,who is also better than bee,cudnt do anything to the sand,just because bee can infuse a pencil or run chakra though his swords,dosent mean he can do it on a level of A,and he has never been shown doing what you say IIRC. If gaara could hold down susanoo,he can hold down bee,and a desert of sand can hold down v2 bee no problem. Temari used the cast net herself,it is her jutsu,and so is kiri kiri mae,which she can spam now.

Going full bijuu will make him easier to hit with kiri kiri mae,as well as giant sand arms,his sand held susanoo,it can hold bee.


No one will let him use TBB,and no one will let him go full bijuu

If he's skilled enough to send raiton through other objects, then im sure he can send it through his body. A never tried to get through his sand. Gaara never held down Susano'o. Bee v2 will be like Kimimaro ripping right through his sand. They can't stop him from goin full Biju, nor can they stop his relentless Biju dama's

 

[Icelerate]

Temari had help from other futon users attacking the 3rd Raikage.

Just letting you know that amongst the three fan users that attacked the 3rd Raikage, Temari was by far the strongest and the main benefit they gave Temari was the ability to increase the area of effect of Wind Cast Net because the 3rd Raikage could easily dodge one done by only Temari. Anyway I agree with you.

 

[genii96]

If he's skilled enough to send raiton through other objects, then im sure he can send it through his body. A never tried to get through his sand. Gaara never held down Susano'o. Bee v2 will be like Kimimaro ripping right through his sand. They can't stop him from goin full Biju, nor can they stop his relentless Biju dama's

A used the force he was about to hit sasuke with,so whether he attacks the sand or not,he was at full force coming down,and gaara's sand blocked it easily while also blocking an enton from below,neither the force of A nor the fprce and heat of the enton flinched the sand.

Gaara restrained susanoo with his sand in the war,and his sand was lightened,hence weaker than normal.

Kimimaro's strongest bone broke on gaara's sand,killer b cant dodge sand hail,nor can he dodge kiri kiri mae,and he cant dodge them when done together and added with poison cloud from kankuro,especially with no intel on how it works,while they have full intel on him.

Also with full intel,they can just allow him close and hit him,he has no intel on their powers while they know his abilities.

Gaara can use giant sand arms to hold his tentacles while temari cuts him up.




@ iccelerate,
title says kankuro vs sasori,not kankuro vs edo sasori,so i2's their first fight. Killer b has no intel on them,why would he transform like that?,sand sibs have full intel on him and would end the fight quickly. A kiri kiri mae from the start,or gaara using the sand underneath bee instantly to crush his legs would do.

C3 is a village buster,hachibi's tbb is a mountain buster,i'd say they are on the same level or c3 is stronger.

Air sand protective wall is a village sized sand shield,composed of the strongest minerals and chakra,it was unfazed when it blocked c3,so i am not overhyping anything

 

[Champ]

A used the force he was about to hit sasuke with,so whether he attacks the sand or not,he was at full force coming down,and gaara's sand blocked it easily while also blocking an enton from below,neither the force of A nor the fprce and heat of the enton flinched the sand.

Gaara restrained susanoo with his sand in the war,and his sand was lightened,hence weaker than normal.

Kimimaro's strongest bone broke on gaara's sand,killer b cant dodge sand hail,nor can he dodge kiri kiri mae,and he cant dodge them when done together and added with poison cloud from kankuro,especially with no intel on how it works,while they have full intel on him.

Also with full intel,they can just allow him close and hit him,he has no intel on their powers while they know his abilities.

Gaara can use giant sand arms to hold his tentacles while temari cuts him up.




@ iccelerate,
title says kankuro vs sasori,not kankuro vs edo sasori,so i2's their first fight. Killer b has no intel on them,why would he transform like that?,sand sibs have full intel on him and would end the fight quickly. A kiri kiri mae from the start,or gaara using the sand underneath bee instantly to crush his legs would do.

C3 is a village buster,hachibi's tbb is a mountain buster,i'd say they are on the same level or c3 is stronger.

Air sand protective wall is a village sized sand shield,composed of the strongest minerals and chakra,it was unfazed when it blocked c3,so i am not overhyping anything

A jumped in the air and tried to drop kick Sasuke, that was gravity that took over not A's speed and power. Which is why I told you before that attack wasn't goin to kill Sasuke. I still don't remember Gaara blocking Susano'o he sand did stop the Lil sword, but he never held it down unless you have manga scans. The Hachibi's whirlwind technique would get rid of any sand on him. A fully charged Biju dama takes time I know, but not the Lil Biju dama ball it can be fired fast.

 

[Icelerate]

Fine if these are the conditions, I guess Sand Siblings win due to full knowledge VS no knowledge and the fact that this is a desert allowing Gaara to restrain Bee while Temari and Kankuro can poison him.

 

[genii96]

A jumped in the air and tried to drop kick Sasuke, that was gravity that took over not A's speed and power. Which is why I told you before that attack wasn't goin to kill Sasuke. I still don't remember Gaara blocking Susano'o he sand did stop the Lil sword, but he never held it down unless you have manga scans. The Hachibi's whirlwind technique would get rid of any sand on him. A fully charged Biju dama takes time I know, but not the Lil Biju dama ball it can be fired fast.

yes,it may not have had speed,but gravity+penetrative force of the attack and A's weight gave it incredible power,if a simple chop cracked susanoo from a standing position,then a downward kick would certainly break it,so gaara's sand stopping it as easily as it did proves that raiton dosent affect his sand anymore.

When gaara pulled madara from his susanoo,he held it down so that it would not follow him,his sand was lightened at that point,which meant it was weaker than normal.

A whilrwind in a desert would blow sand all around him,and like i said,the sand sibs would end the fight quickly before he goes that far.

The little one wont be able to kill them. A meteor cudnt

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Noone can beat gaara in a desert. Exept madara, because he's madara.

 

[Icelerate]

Noone can beat gaara in a desert. Exept madara, because he's madara.

Hashirama, S06P, Kabuto, Obito, Naruto and Nagato say hi.

 

[Champ]

yes,it may not have had speed,but gravity+penetrative force of the attack and A's weight gave it incredible power,if a simple chop cracked susanoo from a standing position,then a downward kick would certainly break it,so gaara's sand stopping it as easily as it did proves that raiton dosent affect his sand anymore.

When gaara pulled madara from his susanoo,he held it down so that it would not follow him,his sand was lightened at that point,which meant it was weaker than normal.

A whilrwind in a desert would blow sand all around him,and like i said,the sand sibs would end the fight quickly before he goes that far.

The little one wont be able to kill them. A meteor cudnt

A had the power along with the speed to increase his strength to break Sasuke ribcage, when A jumped in the air he lost all that. If A still had the speed & power when he jumped in the air, it wouldn't have tooken him 3 pages to land that drop kick & Gaara would've never made it in
Time to help Sasuke, but he didn't the attack was less powerful then his previous one. He didn't hold it down, and that was Onoki who lighten his sand, he's not here to do that. The whirlwind would negate any sand from harming him. One Gaara can stop, multiple he gets killed.

 

[genii96]

A had the power along with the speed to increase his strength to break Sasuke ribcage, when A jumped in the air he lost all that. If A still had the speed & power when he jumped in the air, it wouldn't have tooken him 3 pages to land that drop kick & Gaara would've never made it in
Time to help Sasuke, but he didn't the attack was less powerful then his previous one. He didn't hold it down, and that was Onoki who lighten his sand, he's not here to do that. The whirlwind would negate any sand from harming him. One Gaara can stop, multiple he gets killed.

what speed?,he was at a standing position!,there was NO buildup of speed at all,it was a chop from a standing position,it had no speed at all,raiton armour does not touch his strength,it increases his speed and penetrative power,not his strength,however,his strength coupled with the penetrative invrease and speed made his attacks more powerful and in v2,it was at it's peak. If you chop someone,then jump up and come down on him with a leg drop,theegdrop carroes more damage,A would not use a weaker attack on sasuke when a stronger one failed to kill him,thats absurd.

Actually,gaara held down the susanoo to stop it from following madara when he pulled him out,onoki making his sand lighter made it much weaker too,so onoki's help is actually a problem when it matters in strength not speed.

Whirlwind creates winds,temari summons katamari who proceeds to use those winds to cut up bee,killer b isnt as big as a forest which was cut up,oh and kb has no intel for the last time,hence going full bijuu isnt going to happen in an instant. He can block the uncharged ones,but not multiple chargrd ones.

Good luck negating this

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[Champ]

what speed?,he was at a standing position!,there was NO buildup of speed at all,it was a chop from a standing position,it had no speed at all,raiton armour does not touch his strength,it increases his speed and penetrative power,not his strength,however,his strength coupled with the penetrative invrease and speed made his attacks more powerful and in v2,it was at it's peak. If you chop someone,then jump up and come down on him with a leg drop,theegdrop carroes more damage,A would not use a weaker attack on sasuke when a stronger one failed to kill him,thats absurd.

Actually,gaara held down the susanoo to stop it from following madara when he pulled him out,onoki making his sand lighter made it much weaker too,so onoki's help is actually a problem when it matters in strength not speed.

Whirlwind creates winds,temari summons katamari who proceeds to use those winds to cut up bee,killer b isnt as big as a forest which was cut up,oh and kb has no intel for the last time,hence going full bijuu isnt going to happen in an instant. He can block the uncharged ones,but not multiple chargrd ones.

Good luck negating this

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Obvious his hand chop is stronger than that drop kick. When you punch someone you still need the speed of your fist to add the power. A drop kick had none of that. Nope Onoki only seemed to make Deidara attack weaker, when he was on v2 A back it increase his strength so he was able to break Madara stage 2 Susano'o. I never seen Madara try to move for Gaara to hold down his Susano'o. Bee had no intell in Taka and he still went full Biju. Point being he owns them. I know Gaara can block one, but multiple Biju dama kills him.

 

[genii96]

Obvious his hand chop is stronger than that drop kick. When you punch someone you still need the speed of your fist to add the power. A drop kick had none of that. Nope Onoki only seemed to make Deidara attack weaker, when he was on v2 A back it increase his strength so he was able to break Madara stage 2 Susano'o. I never seen Madara try to move for Gaara to hold down his Susano'o. Bee had no intell in Taka and he still went full Biju. Point being he owns them. I know Gaara can block one, but multiple Biju dama kills him.

oh,c'mon,now way can his chop be stronger than his dropkick,the distance was much too close to build up any real speed. He would not use a weaker attack to break susanoo,when a stronger one failed,the dropkick had both strength and penetrative force boosted by gravity fall,it is above a simple chop from a standing position.

Wrong,when he want on A's back,he made him lighter,hence making him weaker,which is why he needed to stay on his back in order to make him heavy again,thus bringing back his strength. He only lightened gaara's sand,he wasnt holding the sand when it reached madara,it was weaker than normal when it restrained the susanoo.madara's susanoo was a big target,just like kller b's hachibi mode,hence moving would do nothing.

How long did it take for him to go full bijuu?infact it took a wgile just to go v1.you make it seem like he starts in bijuu mode,when he starts in base with no intel. When gaara does this at the start of the match,

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killer b is dead.

C3 bomb failed to cratch the sky shield of gaara,so one infront of him,will block any uncharged bijuu mode attacks,it wont penetrate that sky shield due to the size and density of it.

Point is,with full intel,gaara will do the above scan instantly to end bee.

 

[Nazgul]

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This vs Gaara's puny shield.

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Naruto 4 tails took out 3 rashenmon with no problems. This is going through any ammount of sand Gaara put in its way. And what makes you people think that sand is gonna stop a freaking bijuu when Gaara couldnt even kill kimimaro with it. Remember that hurricane thing Bee did vs Tobi?

 

[genii96]

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This vs Gaara's puny shield.

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you mean the puny shield that stopped c3?:sy:,plus it took abt 1 or 2 pages to do that,no one with full intel is letting him do that here. Plus he has no intel on them,hence he will not go full bijuu instantly

 

[Nazgul]

you mean the puny shield that stopped c3?:sy:,plus it took abt 1 or 2 pages to do that,no one with full intel is letting him do that here. Plus he has no intel on them,hence he will not go full bijuu instantly

So you are compairing the power of C3 to a power of a compressed bijuu bomb designed to go through defences? No way in hell Gaara's sand is going to hold against this. And do you really think Gaara can get Bee fast enough before he can fully transform? EDO kages escapped the seal with no difficulty. V2 Bee will easily do the same and that is near instant. It takes Bee maybe 5 seconds to go full bijuu especially since he can already transform into individual tentacles in seconds.

 

[genii96]

So you are compairing the power of C3 to a power of a compressed bijuu bomb designed to go through defences? No way in hell Gaara's sand is going to hold against this. And do you really think Gaara can get Bee fast enough before he can fully transform? EDO kages escapped the seal with no difficulty. V2 Bee will easily do the same and that is near instant. It takes Bee maybe 5 seconds to go full bijuu especially since he can already transform into individual tentacles in seconds.

you are the one who called gaara's shield puny,and c3 would do more damage than that beam,champ agreed that gaara coud block one of those,i never said they would stop him from goinf full bijuu,i said they would stop him from charging the TBB
.why would bee fully transform at the start of a fight he has no intel on?. That beam cudnt kill suigetsu despite hitting him point blank,c3 at that range would evaporate suigetsu and the entire mountain,edo kages didnt escape the seal,they werent sealed before they could escape,plus gaara used sand coffins,not sand pyramids,and last time i checked no kage broke out of the sand pyranid,and madara used PS to break free. Good luck breaking free from this

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oh and temari is also here,shurikens cut hachibi,temari's winds would do worse. Kiri kiri mae cut down a forest 3 years agon,now it will do some damage.

Oh and quicksand burial is also a very viable option,due to hachibi's weight,he wil sink pretty fast. Hachibi stated that suigetsu's demon form was physically stronger and had to use a tbb,gaara's lightened(thereby weaker) sand was able to restrain susanoo,so i am pretty sure that a desert worth of sand will restrain hachibi.

Killer b vs sand siblings in a desert with no intel is a loss

 

[Champ]

oh,c'mon,now way can his chop be stronger than his dropkick,the distance was much too close to build up any real speed. He would not use a weaker attack to break susanoo,when a stronger one failed,the dropkick had both strength and penetrative force boosted by gravity fall,it is above a simple chop from a standing position.

Wrong,when he want on A's back,he made him lighter,hence making him weaker,which is why he needed to stay on his back in order to make him heavy again,thus bringing back his strength. He only lightened gaara's sand,he wasnt holding the sand when it reached madara,it was weaker than normal when it restrained the susanoo.madara's susanoo was a big target,just like kller b's hachibi mode,hence moving would do nothing.

How long did it take for him to go full bijuu?infact it took a wgile just to go v1.you make it seem like he starts in bijuu mode,when he starts in base with no intel. When gaara does this at the start of the match,

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killer b is dead.

C3 bomb failed to cratch the sky shield of gaara,so one infront of him,will block any uncharged bijuu mode attacks,it wont penetrate that sky shield due to the size and density of it.

Point is,with full intel,gaara will do the above scan instantly to end bee.

Like I said gravity took over A's drop kick, it wasn't his own speed an power like with the arm chop. Onoki on A's back made him stronger since he was able to break stage 2 Susano'o, when before he couldn't even break Madara's ribcage. Gaara never restrained Madara's Susano'o, he simply pulled him out. Gaara is to weak to restrain someone powerful. If Gaara does that at the beginning then Killer Bee goes v2, since nothing Gaara has can hurt that form. Gaara blocked one c3, and that used up all his chakra multiple Biju dama he doesn't have the chakra to stop it he gets killed.

 

[Nazgul]

you are the one who called gaara's shield puny,and c3 would do more damage than that beam,champ agreed that gaara coud block one of those,i never said they would stop him from goinf full bijuu,i said they would stop him from charging the TBB
.why would bee fully transform at the start of a fight he has no intel on?. That beam cudnt kill suigetsu despite hitting him point blank,c3 at that range would evaporate suigetsu and the entire mountain,edo kages didnt escape the seal,they werent sealed before they could escape,plus gaara used sand coffins,not sand pyramids,and last time i checked no kage broke out of the sand pyranid,and madara used PS to break free. Good luck breaking free from this

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oh and temari is also here,shurikens cut hachibi,temari's winds would do worse. Kiri kiri mae cut down a forest 3 years agon,now it will do some damage.

Oh and quicksand burial is also a very viable option,due to hachibi's weight,he wil sink pretty fast. Hachibi stated that suigetsu's demon form was physically stronger and had to use a tbb,gaara's lightened(thereby weaker) sand was able to restrain susanoo,so i am pretty sure that a desert worth of sand will restrain hachibi.

Killer b vs sand siblings in a desert with no intel is a loss

You are still trying to say that C3 is stronger than a TBB? What proof do you have of C3 beating suigetsu at all? C3 like you said did not even go through (normal) dessert sand, this isnt even Gaara's enhanced sand. Bijuu beam obliterated 3 solid rashenmon gates.

Here is a simple question - which defense is stronger? 3 Rasenmon or Dessert sand? I think the answer is obvious. C3 is similar to the bijuu ball, does a lot of damage in a wide area, bijuu beam on the other hand is concentrated damage in a smaller area, ideal for penetration.

Gaara isnt capturing bee with any sand, not with bee being able to go into V2 then full bijuu mode and then he has 8 tails whirwind to get rid of any sand that is trying to bind him.

My point is that Gaara cant defend bijuu beam, and he cant immobalise hachibi fast enough to stop him from using it.

 

[genii96]

Like I said gravity took over A's drop kick, it wasn't his own speed an power like with the arm chop. Onoki on A's back made him stronger since he was able to break stage 2 Susano'o, when before he couldn't even break Madara's ribcage. Gaara never restrained Madara's Susano'o, he simply pulled him out. Gaara is to weak to restrain someone powerful. If Gaara does that at the beginning then Killer Bee goes v2, since nothing Gaara has can hurt that form. Gaara blocked one c3, and that used up all his chakra multiple Biju dama he doesn't have the chakra to stop it he gets killed.

there was no speed in the chop,and the power is no where near a falling legdrop. If a guy killed your brother,and you hit him with a chop,it didnt work,would you use a weaker jutsu?,ofcourse not,that legdrop carried more power than a chop.

Onoki made him lighter first,when A got close to madara,he made him heavy again,the speed granted by the lightened A and the force of the normal weighted A broke the susanoo.

If gaara didnt restrain madara's susanoo,then the susanoo would have followed madara. He held it down,then pulled out madara.

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you can see his sand hitting susanoo and another one underneath madara grabbing him,

here you can clearly see the sand around susanoo holding it down while madara is pulled out,

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the amount of sand used was small and it was lightened,a dessert of sand normal weight would hold down bee no problem.

V2 bee is escaping a pyramid,nor sand prison nor quick sand prison.

That was gaara at the beginning of shippuden,where he hadnt slept for 15 years,was using his chakra to supress the shukaku's presence and murderous personality. What do you think would happen to a shinobi who dosent sleep?,his mental and physical being would be affected. Current gaara,who can now sleep has shown that his sand has gotten much faster and stronger since then,and he has been able to fight for 2 days without tire,going through kage after kage,and still having enough left to hold down a susanoo and survive a meteor. He was also protecting hundreds of people,not just 3,hence he needed to manipulate it that way. Gaara can also fly too,and said he would have reached turtle island faster than onoki,hence his flight abilities have also improved.

So makin a skyshield isnt going to cost him much.

 

[Champ]

there was no speed in the chop,and the power is no where near a falling legdrop. If a guy killed your brother,and you hit him with a chop,it didnt work,would you use a weaker jutsu?,ofcourse not,that legdrop carried more power than a chop.

Onoki made him lighter first,when A got close to madara,he made him heavy again,the speed granted by the lightened A and the force of the normal weighted A broke the susanoo.

If gaara didnt restrain madara's susanoo,then the susanoo would have followed madara. He held it down,then pulled out madara.

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you can see his sand hitting susanoo and another one underneath madara grabbing him,

here you can clearly see the sand around susanoo holding it down while madara is pulled out,

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the amount of sand used was small and it was lightened,a dessert of sand normal weight would hold down bee no problem.

V2 bee is escaping a pyramid,nor sand prison nor quick sand prison.

That was gaara at the beginning of shippuden,where he hadnt slept for 15 years,was using his chakra to supress the shukaku's presence and murderous personality. What do you think would happen to a shinobi who dosent sleep?,his mental and physical being would be affected. Current gaara,who can now sleep has shown that his sand has gotten much faster and stronger since then,and he has been able to fight for 2 days without tire,going through kage after kage,and still having enough left to hold down a susanoo and survive a meteor. He was also protecting hundreds of people,not just 3,hence he needed to manipulate it that way. Gaara can also fly too,and said he would have reached turtle island faster than onoki,hence his flight abilities have also improved.

So makin a skyshield isnt going to cost him much.

If there was no speed in the chop how did it break Sasuke Susano'o? The falling leg drop is no where near the power of A's arm chop. Why would I legdrop a guy with the back of my leg which wouldn't hurt him as much as a closed fist would. When Onoki lighten A it increased his speed & power. The scans show the sand grabbing Madara first, and pullin him out. Onoki isn't here to help him so why are you showin that scan. He doesn't have to escape he'll break out if any of Gaara attacks. All thats means nothin multiple Biju dama kills Gaara.