Killer Bee vs Gaara,Konkuro,Temari

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well garra is in a desert but killer b has tbb so... killer b med diff
 

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Lol, just because I dont spend all day on NB doesnt mean you automatically win an argument. But what what is fact is that Genii being NB's resident Gaara / Suna fanboy will never admit being wrong or Gaara being defeated in a VS Match. And he still thinks Gaara can defend 4 bijuu bombs and crush Bee in Bijuu state with sand.

Anyway I am done with this topic, I feel it is pointless to carry on since it is obvious neither side will give ground.
 

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Lol, just because I dont spend all day on NB doesnt mean you automatically win an argument. But what what is fact is that Genii being NB's resident Gaara / Suna fanboy will never admit being wrong or Gaara being defeated in a VS Match. And he still thinks Gaara can defend 4 bijuu bombs and crush Bee in Bijuu state with sand.

Anyway I am done with this topic, I feel it is pointless to carry on since it is obvious neither side will give ground.

insult me all you want,iccelerate already agrees killer b looses mid diff. As well as the others who i quoted that said gaara solos him.

I'd like to see what a killer b with no intel would do when at the start of the match,temari initiates her kiri kiri mai,which crossed a forest in a split second,he starts in base, i wonder if he can counter that.

So your analysis dosent really tickle me at all
 

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And now Temari solos Bee :sy:. What's next Temari solos anyone without a sharingan? Temari is top 10 no one can avoid Weasel !!!!!. Her part 1 speed is nothing compared to the speed feats we are seeing right now. Base bee reacted to v1 Raikage without even trying.

This is why I dont like arguing with you when it comes to Sand village.
 

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I didnt say temari can slo bee anytime. I asked you what would happen if bee faced the 3 of them with no intel,and temari did her kiri kiri mai from the start while bee was in base,yea,the weasel crossed a forest in a split second in part 2,now it would be much faster.
Suigetsu and juugo reacted to v1 raikage as well.

Why dont you tell me what what would happen in that instance instead of avoiding the question?,would he survive it,or not?.
 

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Okay let me explain something to both sides.

@Genii,
Why do you think that the Whirl wind will strengthen kiri kiri mae? It won't. What it will do is redirect kamatari back at the sand siblings. However, I don't think that Killer Bee can time it correctly because kamatari is invisible to the naked eye. Also Temari isn't killing Bee in the Hachibi state, neither is Gaara since Bee tanked a bijuu dama which is far superior to anything the Sand Siblings have.

On the other hand, Kankuro is extremely vital here. No matter how much endurance you have, if poison gets inside you, you're screwed. I think Killer Bee can blow it away using whirlwind but Temari can force the poison gas through using a chakra based wind style attack which would most certainly penetrate through the whirlwind and slice through Killer Bee.

As for the bijuu dama one shot arguments... You guys do realize that Killer Bee isn't going to be the only one attacking right? He is being attacked by three different people so him getting of a TBB before the Sand Siblings can attack is highly unlikely. Not only that but in the desert, Gaara has enough sand to keep Bee busy from forming a TBB. He will be forced to use his whirlwind to prevent himself from getting overwhelmed by sand and while he is using the whirlwind, he won't be able to go on the offensive with a TBB. Gaara could probably change a TBB's trajectory by grabbing the Hachibi's horn and pulling his face somewhere else.

While Gaara is doing all of that, Temari and Kankuro are free to attack and considering Kankuro now has Sasori's puppet, Kankuro's poison one shots Killer Bee whether he is in bijuu form or not.

Sand Siblings take this mid difficulty.

What happen to this
Killer Bee wins mid difficulty.

The only thing that might help them is combining poison with wind style to try and slice him with poisonous wind attacks which would put Killer Bee down even as a bijuu since the penetrating powers of Temari's wind combined with Kankuro's poison can send poison down his system but nevertheless Killer Bee wins the fight for obvious reasons.
 

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I didnt say temari can slo bee anytime. I asked you what would happen if bee faced the 3 of them with no intel,and temari did her kiri kiri mai from the start while bee was in base,yea,the weasel crossed a forest in a split second in part 2,now it would be much faster.
Suigetsu and juugo reacted to v1 raikage as well.

Why dont you tell me what what would happen in that instance instead of avoiding the question?,would he survive it,or not?.

Simply side step the B-rank tech pull out his knife and stab the weasel? Base Bee easily defeated 3T Sasuke, what is some stupid weasel going to do? Dont compare fodder Jounin to Bee....

Cant believe I got dragged back into now arguing Bee vs Temari
 
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well i think tha the whirl wind would strengthen it because unlike hachibi,kamatari actually rides it,if he created a wind current,it woud just create more winds to ride on,however,that dosent matter,cuz he cant see it once it starts moving.
Now that I think about it, Bee's whirlwind will allow Kamatari to ride the circular motion winds so it may cause the summon to get deflected at some random angle. It is true that Kamatari rides the wind but specifically Temari's wind in the way Temari summons it and allows it to ride it. Killer Bee doesn't use his whirlwind in the same way Temari uses her wind scythe so the result would be different. What I mean is that if Kamatari attacks Bee head on, it will be different than say Temari creating winds from behind it.
Not only that but you honestly think that a jutsu used by a genin can even hope to compare to a high kage level perfect jinchuriki?
A tbb is an explosive force,not a penetrative one,bee took it directly,and i dont thing his tentacles went off,shurikens could cut his tentacles.
Penetrative and explosive forces are different,as a bijuu,he has a naturally strong body,but a very soft one.shurikens have cut him before,chidori spear has cut him before,
Cast net ripped raikage to pieces,rasenshuriken didn hurt him,RS is more powerful than cast net.
I know shuriken and chidori spear have cut Bee but he wasn't fazed in the slightest due to getting cut. He will have no problem against Temari.
Shukak's drilling air bullet hit bunta,but didnt kill him,what do you think would happen if bunta was sliced with her wind scythe,that cuts through metal?,he wil be cut.
Temari would deal serious damage or if she hits a vital point, kill Bunta but comparing Bunta to Bee is stupid.
Now,kiri kiri mai,crossed a forest,and stretched out hundred of metres in a split second,now,hachib+'s whirlwind,would bee.even see kamatari to know how to react?,and that kiri kiri mai apam jutsus she uses,means kamatarai goes frnt,then back and so on till she ends it,each in a split second. Also,every poart of bee would be attacked,his eyes,his horns,his tentacles,his skin,his mouth,his arms continously,each attack with more cutting power than cast net. How much cutting power do you think he can take?. Of course,assuming she dosent do it at the start of the match,where bee starts in base,then what?
I know Temari mentioned that she can spam kiri kiri mae but until she shows us doing so, we can't assume how she does it so that spam can't be used in the VS section.

And now Temari solos Bee :sy:. What's next Temari solos anyone without a sharingan? Temari is top 10 no one can avoid Weasel !!!!!. Her part 1 speed is nothing compared to the speed feats we are seeing right now. Base bee reacted to v1 Raikage without even trying.

This is why I dont like arguing with you when it comes to Sand village.
1. Many people other than sharingan users can react to Kamatari. For example, Byakugan and Rinnegan users can also see chakra so they can tell where the weasel is. Whether they can react to it or not is a different question. Sensors can also locate Kamatari so there are plenty of people that the summon can't simply take out. Immortals or people with strong defences will also be relatively unfazed for the most part.

Saying all of this, you underrate Kiri kiri mae. You can't simply dodge the omnidirectional attack that stretches hundreds of meters unless you go above it, kill the summon or underground.
What happen to this
I noticed the location, knowledge and starting distance were all in favour of the Sand Siblings. Also I think at this point, TBBs are losing their might and can be countered in various ways or else fighting a bijuu would be virtually impossible unless you are Hashi or Madara when this is clearly not the case. The 4th Kazekage used to regularly restrain Shukaku so he must have a way of countering TBB. Gaara who is more versatile and better than his father can probably do so as well. The 3rd Raikage was able to tank Hachibi's TBB and Naruto mentioned that Gaara has a better defence than the 3rd Raikage.
Simply side step the B-rank tech pull out his knife and stab the weasel? Base Bee easily defeated 3T Sasuke, what is some stupid weasel going to do? Dont compare fodder Jounin to Bee....

Cant believe I got dragged back into now arguing Bee vs Temari
Firstly speaking, Bee won't be able to see the weasel. Secondly, how can you side step an attack stretching hundreds of meters?
Thirdly, Temari isn't a fodder jounin.
 

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Simply side step the B-rank tech pull out his knife and stab the weasel? Base Bee easily defeated 3T Sasuke, what is some stupid weasel going to do? Dont compare fodder Jounin to Bee....

Cant believe I got dragged back into now arguing Bee vs Temari

B-rank means the difficulty to learn it,not it's power.
Side step an attack that stretches hundreds of metres and decimates a forest in a split second?,you are joking.

Base bee beat sasuke beacuse his attacks were unorthodox,hence sasuke cudnt predict it,sasuke dodged a near point blank hit from bee whie in mid air with the same 3T,so is base bee faster than 3tk bee?,the attack was linear,hence sasuke dodged it.

Thats stupid weasel carries enough power to cut base bee into sushi,and it crosses a forest in a split second,can't be seen by the unaided eye when it starts moving,and even if bee can see it,he isnt reacting to it.

Here it is summoned


then


and


did you even see the weasel at all once it started?. Good luck reacting to that with no intel.

Now that I think about it, Bee's whirlwind will allow Kamatari to ride the circular motion winds so it may cause the summon to get deflected at some random angle. It is true that Kamatari rides the wind but specifically Temari's wind in the way Temari summons it and allows it to ride it. Killer Bee doesn't use his whirlwind in the same way Temari uses her wind scythe so the result would be different. What I mean is that if Kamatari attacks Bee head on, it will be different than say Temari creating winds from behind it.
Not only that but you honestly think that a jutsu used by a genin can even hope to compare to a high kage level perfect jinchuriki?

I know shuriken and chidori spear have cut Bee but he wasn't fazed in the slightest due to getting cut. He will have no problem against Temari.

Temari would deal serious damage or if she hits a vital point, kill Bunta but comparing Bunta to Bee is stupid.

I know Temari mentioned that she can spam kiri kiri mae but until she shows us doing so, we can't assume how she does it so that spam can't be used in the VS section.

actually,she is a jonin,and a kage bodyguard,not a genin. Just because bee is high kage dosent mean someone below that rank cant hurt him. That jutsus was 3 years ago,while bee's whirlwind was done currently,add 3 years to temari from that time and that jutsus can go up and overpower the whirlwind,both of them destroyed a forest at their first uses,so that genin skill is actually quite similar to the high kage one,now that we are talking abt a jonin,the power would be even greater than before.

True,cutting the tentacles wont harm him,it wil however reduce mobility,and i a pretty sure the jutsu will also hit evryother part. I am not saying that the jutsu would utterly put down bee,but it will do some good damage.

I wasnt comparing bunta to hachibi,just expanding my point that tanking explosive attacks dosent equate tanking piercing ones. Although bunta did sit on the kyubixd

You said it yourself,3rd raikage took a tbb from hachibi(i think he deflected it actually),yet was cut by the cast net,now the kiri kiri mai is above the cast net,and hachibi's body is very obviuously not as strong as 3rd raikage,he isnt going to simply brush off that atack.

Also the weasel,it dosent exactly ride the winds on the ground or close to it,when she summoned the weasel,she waved her fan upwards


also,this clash isnt about a weasel vs a bijuu,it's about the winds the weasel is riding vs the wind the bijuu poduces. You yourself stated that temari could cut through the winds to hit bee in order to do a combo with kankuro,yet this weasel cant cut through the winds?. Of course,this is assuming that bee actually sees it to begin countering. He has no dojutsu,isnt a sensor,has no strong defence to cutting,isnt immortal,and has no intel he starts in base.

About those wh can detect the weasel,
agree with dojutsus,
sensors can sense,but cant react(with naruto,nagato etc exempted from this list)
immortals like hidan or tsunade would survive but would be in pieces,
strong defences like susanoo would tank it true.

Kishi might have made a mistake giving her that tech at an early stage,even high kage level shinobis can be taken down with that thing,and it's activation time is negligible. However,due to her rank,it would seem trolly(if thats a word) to say she uses it to beat them.
 

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I noticed the location, knowledge and starting distance were all in favour of the Sand Siblings. Also I think at this point, TBBs are losing their might and can be countered in various ways or else fighting a bijuu would be virtually impossible unless you are Hashi or Madara when this is clearly not the case. The 4th Kazekage used to regularly restrain Shukaku so he must have a way of countering TBB. Gaara who is more versatile and better than his father can probably do so as well. The 3rd Raikage was able to tank Hachibi's TBB and Naruto mentioned that Gaara has a better defence than the 3rd Raikage.
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3rd Raikage never tanked the Hachibi's Biju dama, it said they both collapsed while there techniques were at hand. Hachibi never lauched his Biju dama at him, he collapsed before he could just like the 3rd Raikage collapsed before he could kill it with his one finger nukit
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