Kakuzu vs Tsunade

[TheEvilOne]

Nope. She won't loose, Kakuzu is WEAK. He is not even close to the sannin's level.

 

[Edo Odin]

Nope. She won't loose, Kakuzu is WEAK. He is not even close to the sannin's level.

I always find it funny when people try to involve ranks into debates.

By that logic, Naruto loses to almost everyone, since he's just a mere Genin.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

i can't understand why poeple hate characters ?
and sannin was a title giving to her and her two partners by hanzo, it means nothing and it represents nothing too.

It means they are strong. In the manga no one has this title, only Tsunade, Jman & Orochimaru.
And I agree with that guy.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

I always find it funny when people try to involve ranks into debates.

By that logic, Naruto loses to almost everyone, since he's just a mere Genin.

The "sannin" isn't a rank.

 

[Edo Odin]

The "sannin" isn't a rank.

Nonetheless, it's the same as rank, as a lot of people say things like "Lmao, do you think she's losing ? She's a Kage", or "No, he can't beat a Sannin".

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

ok i understand.
Tsunade solos everybody because she's a sannin

Exactly. Finally you understand it.

 

[Nibi Yugito Nii]

You ignorant fools tsunade wins mid diff
Ok elemetal justu are tank by katsuyu while tsunade inside her lmao you real think kakuzu stand a chance :sy:

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Nonetheless, it's the same as rank, as a lot of people say things like "Lmao, do you think she's losing ? She's a Kage", or "No, he can't beat a Sannin".

I don't like to use this logic, but in this case is totally relevant. Only the biased Kakuzu or akatsuki fans can't see Tsunade is the superior fighter. Kakuzu has nothing to kill her, you are acting like she would just stand there and tank the attacks, without countering them.
It will be a long fight, but in the end of the day Tsunade would be the victor.

 

[genii96]

Tsunade wins after a long fight

 

[Edo Odin]

I don't like to use this logic, but in this case is totally relevant. Only the biased Kakuzu or akatsuki fans can't see Tsunade is the superior fighter. Kakuzu has nothing to kill her, you are acting like she would just stand there and tank the attacks, without countering them.
It will be a long fight, but in the end of the day Tsunade would be the victor.

Actually, that logic is never relevant. Would you be satisfied if I said that Kisame beats Tsunade, just because he's an Akatsuki ? No, of course not, that's simply ridiculous.

And likewise, Tsunade can't hurt Kakuzu In the end, he'd be attacking her, while she can't do anything but tank, while she can't get a hit off on him.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Actually, that logic is never relevant. Would you be satisfied if I said that Kisame beats Tsunade, just because he's an Akatsuki ? No, of course not, that's simply ridiculous.

And likewise, Tsunade can't hurt Kakuzu In the end, he'd be attacking her, while she can't do anything but tank, while she can't get a hit off on him.

Can't hurt kakuzu? Lmao, this is funny.

 

[Zexion~]

Can't hurt kakuzu? Lmao, this is funny.

funyy .... but true :/

 

[genii96]

Actually, that logic is never relevant. Would you be satisfied if I said that Kisame beats Tsunade, just because he's an Akatsuki ? No, of course not, that's simply ridiculous.

And likewise, Tsunade can't hurt Kakuzu In the end, he'd be attacking her, while she can't do anything but tank, while she can't get a hit off on him.

yea,using ranks and titles are useless,i agree.

However,doton:domu isnt saving him from a chakra strike that knocks out full susanoos,and it is very useless against BPD which uses lightening so tsunade can very much hurt him.

 

[Edo Odin]

Can't hurt kakuzu? Lmao, this is funny.

Not as funny as a fanboy that tries to use ranks to end debates Or a guy claiming that someone can't summon something in battle when that person has already summoned it.

yea,using ranks and titles are useless,i agree.

However,doton:domu isnt saving him from a chakra strike that knocks out full susanoos,and it is very useless against BPD which uses lightening so tsunade can very much hurt him.

I'm glad, at least someone uses logic these days.

I must disagree. Tsunade has never been seen being proficient enough at using electricity to get through the Domu. Nor do I see a single person getting through the range of his threads, along with the elemental masks. Not only do the threads have high piercing prowess, but a small amount of them are strong enough to strangle an opponent while restricting him. With her level of speed, Tsunade won't be able to get through to Kakuzu himself, and even if she could, there is nothing that points to her being able to get through the Doton Domu.

 

[genii96]

I'm glad, at least someone uses logic these days.

I must disagree. Tsunade has never been seen being proficient enough at using electricity to get through the Domu. Nor do I see a single person getting through the range of his threads, along with the elemental masks. Not only do the threads have high piercing prowess, but a small amount of them are strong enough to strangle an opponent while restricting him. With her level of speed, Tsunade won't be able to get through to Kakuzu himself, and even if she could, there is nothing that points to her being able to get through the Doton Domu.

actually,her BPD is an A class tech,and coupled with her top class chakra control,she can hit it quite well. Also,doton domu's weakness is lightening,as it was stated,thay lightening attacks are about the only things that can go though,aside from little techs. She was proficient enough to use her lightening attack to incapacitate kabuto with a quick chop,utterly screwing up his body system,if she hits that on kakuzu,it would be a real mess on him,and as he isnt a medical ninjutsu user,he would be out of business.

Secondly,she was physically strong enough to shatter susanoo,madara's susanoo,and knock down 2 final susanoos while having 2 swords through her stomach,doton domu might have the hardness of diamonds,but hardness and strength arent the same thing,it's strength levels are not on par with susanoo,so i doubt it will protect him from a chakra punch.

Also,those threads arent much of a threat,yes,they have piercing power,but tsunade can grab the threads and pull kakuzu over to hit him justike she did to orochimaru and his tongue. The elemental attacks wont really damage her with yin seal which she used to survive light transfer,let alone SOH which allowed her tank madara's yasaka magatama with ease,the same one that nearly went through a sand rock combo defence,as well as easily tank 2 final susanoo swords,the incomplete version which sliced through the defences. Hidan took kakuzu's wind styly at point blank and wasnt hurt in the least,tsunade's senju uzumaki body immortality would allow her emulate that as well,gian is a spear like attack,which wont hurt her,neither will that fire style which ino,choji and shika managed to evade.

Also katsuya is immune to all physical attacks,if CT,CST and naruto's 8tk form didnt hurt a clone,the full thing wont be hurt by kakuzu,her acid melts rock instantly as well.

Also her speed and reaction skills have vastly improved,she actually hit madara,who had the ems,reacted to fore jursu faster than mei could form handseals,she has gotten quite fast,and due to her medical expertise in medical ninjutsu,she has good evasive skills and can read opponents jutsu to give her the advantage.

On the contrary,kakuzu cant really kill or hurt her,or her summon.

 

[ItachiStyle]

"The blink of an eye". We have no idea how much time passed between Kakuzu jumping and getting Hidan's head, because we have no point of reference (like Manda shutting his mouth, or a clock hand moving a second, etc). I'm sure that Kakuzu is a fast guy, most good level shinobi are, even if he's also been tagged by fodders, but there's nothing to suggest he's in Tsunade territory (which is crazy).

 

[ItachiStyle]

"The blink of an eye". We have no idea how much time passed between Kakuzu jumping and getting Hidan's head, because we have no point of reference (like Manda shutting his mouth, or a clock hand moving a second, etc). I'm sure that Kakuzu is a fast guy, most good level shinobi are, even if he's also been tagged by fodders, but there's nothing to suggest he's in Tsunade territory (which is crazy).

 

[ItachiStyle]

This thread is starting to bother me. On the one hand, Kakuzu fans are being absurd, and on the other Tsunade fanboys are starting to get even worse. No, Katsuyu does not have the durability you are claiming, and Tsunade did not tank Pain's village destroying tech. No, Tsunade does not win because of her title.

However at the same time, the Kakuzu fans are being absurd. The latest claim, that Tsunade can't even harm Kakuzu... is that a joke? Like 4 or 5 different ways were given earlier in this thread... clearly I'll have to re-post the posts on this.

 

[ItachiStyle]

She can reverse his nerves on contact, so he loses control of his body. Kakuzu still has organs and such after all, and having "tough skin" doesn't nothing to protect you from that. Nor does "tough skin" protect you from medical scalpels, designed to go beneath the surface and get the nerves (I took this description of the chakra scalpel from the wiki, but it's backed up in the manga too: "Unlike regular scalpels, the chakra scalpel can actually make cuts inside the body without actually creating an open wound"). Nor does it help against someone with lightning affinity. Not to mention all the other ways Earth Spear is overrated and with poor feats.

This, on page 2.

Also, this:

It has never established it is invulnerable. The databook mentions it is "hard like diamond", but the databook says alot of crap, including that Ameratasu is "as hot as the sun" (remember when you tried to argue Earth Spear could stop Ameratasu too?), so we shouldn't take it too literally. The feats for Earth Spear don't even suggest that much, if they did Kakuzu would have no need to dodge at all (yet he constantly dodged attacks). To some degree you've got to have feats to back stuff up. Now sure, Kakuzu's Earth Spear is tough, nobody is disputing that... at the same time though, it hasn't proven it's at the level where it can stand up to even the raw strength of Tsunade. Tsunade can crack Susanoo... the same Susanoo which while in its weakest form (invisible and unformed) can still tank Kirin (a tech that would have easily wrecked Earth Spear). There is a world of difference between the physical strength of Tsunade (who casually hurls giant knives weighing hundreds of tonnes into the air and aims them with enough precision to slam Manda's mouth shut) and Choji rolling in a ball. If you can't see that, you should.

And again, that says nothing for Chakra Scalpel, her lightning affinity, or her re-arranging his nerves with a touch. Kakuzu dies horribly. See thread I linked to for a further explanation. It's also absurd to claim that Kakuzu being "analytical" means he can counteract all his nerves being messed up, something Kabuto could do because he was a genius medical ninja (surprising Tsunade in the process), not owing to mere analytical skill.

 

[Zexion~]

^ im guessing they meant she wouldnt get a chance to hurt him .. js