Kakuzu vs Tsunade

[Penguin]

What can she do against long ranged Kakazu? He would strangle her.

 

[Negative Knight]

Tsunade wins. This was created many times and it was explained why she wins.

Once more, detail exactly how Tsunade wins. In this kind of fight she would be pushed to stay on the defensive, i don't possibly see her winning. It would all come down to wearing down Tsunade's body and exploiting her regeneration. Granted Kakuzu has no knowledge of it, but his indiscriminate attack style would mean he would unknowingly be countering it.

Like I said, fire kills cells, and cells is what Tsunade requires to fufil her regeneration. Continuously attacking her with Katon, Fuuton and Raiton would tire her body, whilst killing an immense amount of cells with each successful hit. His ability to cover a wide scale with a single jutsu, his masks covering all angles and her own lack of speed all ensure successful hits.

Kakuzu is capable of fighting multiple opponents without much difficulty due to his masks. Against single shinobi he's a formidable force since all of his efforts are concentrated in overwhelming his opponent whilst simultaneously supporting his masks.

Flight = Tsunde cannot harm Kakuzu's masks
Doton Domu and Speed Advantage = Tsunade cannot harm Kakuzu himself

Pair all of this with facing a skilled Taijutsu user who possesses devastating aerial support ? A futile match up is the result.

 

[Zexion~]

Tsunade high diff. Kakuzu doesn't really have anything that can kill her
People underestimate how much a natural tank Tsunade really is.
-Elemental attacks aren't that much of a threat, she just casually brushed off Madara's dragon flame bullets like nothing while she has regeneration on

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Keep in mind those same dragon flames were able to bust through a cement ceiling

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-As for the threads, she can handle these pretty easily
She was able to survive a full impalement from a susanoo sword and get break it with a chakra scalpel, I don't see how threads are gonna be a threat.

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This is also bad idea since she can use the threads to force Kakuzu into close combat like she did against Oro

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hows she going to tank a fire+wind?

 

[Penguin]

Once more, detail exactly how Tsunade wins. In this kind of fight she would be pushed to stay on the defensive, i don't possibly see her winning. It would all come down to wearing down Tsunade's body and exploiting her regeneration. Granted Kakuzu has no knowledge of it, but his indiscriminate attack style would mean he would unknowingly be countering it.

Like I said, fire kills cells, and cells is what Tsunade requires to fufil her regeneration. Continuously attacking her with Katon, Fuuton and Raiton would tire her body, whilst killing an immense amount of cells with each successful hit. His ability to cover a wide scale with a single jutsu, his masks covering all angles and her own lack of speed all ensure successful hits.

Kakuzu is capable of fighting multiple opponents without much difficulty due to his masks. Against single shinobi he's a formidable force since all of his efforts are concentrated in overwhelming his opponent whilst simultaneously supporting his masks.

Flight = Tsunde cannot harm Kakuzu's masks
Doton Domu and Speed Advantage = Tsunade cannot harm Kakuzu himself

Pair all of this with facing a skilled Taijutsu user who possesses devastating aerial support ? A futile match up is the result.

You really hit the nail on the head right there. Nice comment!

 

[Negative Knight]

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Tsunade high diff. Kakuzu doesn't really have anything that can kill her
People underestimate how much a natural tank Tsunade really is.
-Elemental attacks aren't that much of a threat, she just casually brushed off Madara's dragon flame bullets like nothing while she has regeneration on

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Keep in mind those same dragon flames were able to bust through a cement ceiling

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-As for the threads, she can handle these pretty easily
She was able to survive a full impalement from a susanoo sword and get break it with a chakra scalpel, I don't see how threads are gonna be a threat.

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This is also bad idea since she can use the threads to force Kakuzu into close combat like she did against Oro

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To counter the last part of your argument, here's what i have to say.

Physical strength in this fight isn't a one-sided battle, here you're looking at a fragile Orochimaru, a character who completely lacks physical strength but also trying to capture by wrapping around her body with his neck.

Kakuzu's own strength was shown capable of devastating a sizable sections of large trees all at once, with a kick. This very

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(as he was trying to intercept Kakashi's attack on Hidan) as well as stealthily so not to alert Kakashi, which would allow him to dodge.

Kakuzu kicking Kakashi through trees with an attack designed to intercept his own

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Hindered by those two things that barely shows the strength Kakuzu is capable of exerting upon Tsunade, meaning she wouldn't overpower him as easily as you claim.

Furthermore, Orochimaru was trying to capture Tsunade in a linear way, using only his neck as the means to do so. Kakuzu's body structure which consists of thousands of individual threads would each be able to wrap around her body, completely preventing any and all mobility. Even then, Kakuzu would only need to stop Tsunade for mere moments, since his masks would be able to finish the rest as shown against Kakashi, Ino and Chouji.

 

[Edo Odin]

Tsunade high diff. Kakuzu doesn't really have anything that can kill her
People underestimate how much a natural tank Tsunade really is.
-Elemental attacks aren't that much of a threat, she just casually brushed off Madara's dragon flame bullets like nothing while she has regeneration on

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Keep in mind those same dragon flames were able to bust through a cement ceiling

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-As for the threads, she can handle these pretty easily
She was able to survive a full impalement from a susanoo sword and get break it with a chakra scalpel, I don't see how threads are gonna be a threat.

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This is also bad idea since she can use the threads to force Kakuzu into close combat like she did against Oro

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A single elemental attack may be tankable (is that even a word ? xd ) but a flurry of elemental attacks, as powerful as Kakuzu's, coming from 3 different directions will without a doubt stack up, and in the end, she'd be tired out.

Not to mention the incredible force of the attacks, which'd simply pull her back. According to the DataBook, the Pressure Damage's power is on a pair with a natural disaster. [

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If she pulls Kakuzu up close, it means that while he's traveling towards her, she's in the range of a thousand threads, meaning that she'll be vulnerable to anything that they could do to her. An example would be invading her body, atacking organs, muscles, they could even do some damage to her eyes. My point is that if she tries to pull this again, she'll be vulnerable to the threads in the meantime, not to mention the fact that the Doton Domu would negate the damage from her side.

 

[Edo Odin]

Tsunade wins. This was created many times and it was explained why she wins.

To counter the last part of your argument, here's what i have to say.

Physical strength in this fight isn't a one-sided battle, here you're looking at a fragile Orochimaru, a character who completely lacks physical strength but also trying to capture by wrapping around her body with his neck.

Kakuzu's own strength was shown capable of devastating a sizable sections of large trees all at once, with a kick. This very same kick was designed to be quick (as he was trying to intercept Kakashi's attack on Hidan) as well as stealthily so not to alert Kakashi, which would allow him to dodge.

Kakuzu kicking Kakashi through trees with an attack designed to intercept his own

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Hindered by those two things that barely shows the strength Kakuzu is capable of exerting upon Tsunade, meaning she wouldn't overpower him as easily as you claim.

Furthemore, Orochimaru was trying to capture Tsunade in a linear way, using only his neck as the means to do so. Kakuzu's body structure which consists of thousands of individual threads would each be able to wrap around her body, completely preventing any and all mobility. Even then, Kakuzu would only need to stop Tsunade for mere moments, since his masks would be able to finish the rest as shown against Kakashi, Ino and Chouji.

So psyched to see you back in action man

 

[Negative Knight]

So psyched to see you back in action man

As am I, expect my 3rd Raikage > Pain thread soon

Looking forward to debating with you

 

[Zexion~]

^ holy shit someone needs to tell me when thats happening ****IN GONA BE SICK .... but pain wins

 

[Tartarus]

Like I said, fire kills cells, and cells is what Tsunade requires to fufil her regeneration. Continuously attacking her with Katon, Fuuton and Raiton would tire her body, whilst killing an immense amount of cells with each successful hit. His ability to cover a wide scale with a single jutsu, his masks covering all angles and her own lack of speed all ensure successful hits.

I don't see the point of your fire kills cells point, Tsunade has already deflected and tanked high level fire attacks with enough destructive power to burst through solid walls.

Flight = Tsunde cannot harm Kakuzu's masks
Doton Domu and Speed Advantage = Tsunade cannot harm Kakuzu himself

Basic chakra control to feet can greatly boost her speed, this is basic genin level feat that anyone with superb chakra control can do.

hows she going to tank a fire+wind?

tank it, she's already shown the feat of tanking powerful katon attacks, wind only increases the power and that's not really a big boost considering she tanked this while still pouring her her chakra into everyone in the village

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[RicardoA]

Yes he is. Why are you understimating Kakuzu when he's easily the 4th strongest akatsuki member? Ridiculous.

4th strongest? O.O wow i totally desagree but whatever. I know he's very dangerous 5 hearths and stuff but she can tank his attacks with byakugou and can destroys his masks, of course it won't be easy but i see her pulling it off. Plus she has Katsuyu to help.

 

[Zexion~]

^ oh so i guess sakura hinata a random hyuga ebisu konohamaru shikamaru ino .. etc tanked it as well no it was just like when an explosion goes off some places get hit harder some don't she didnt tank shit there

 

[Negative Knight]

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I don't see the point of your fire kills cells point, Tsunade has already deflected and tanked high level fire attacks with enough destructive power to burst through solid walls.

Basic chakra control to feet can greatly boost her speed, this is basic genin level feat that anyone with superb chakra control can do.

tank it, she's already shown the feat of tanking powerful katon attacks, wind only increases the power and that's not really a big boost considering she tanked this while still pouring her her chakra into everyone in the village

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Tsunade's feat of tanking Madara's Katon was impressive, i'll give you that. But this isn't a fight of one-shotting one another, simply wearing your opponent down. Link me to the scan immediately after Tsunade tanked his Katon jutsu, there were obvious repercussions when she did so. These consequences were so severe she relied on being saved by Dan, and not her own regeneration.

Tanking Katon, Fuuton and Raiton one after the other in quick succession will surely end Tsunade.

For the speed point, like you said its a basic genin level feat to boost your speed to a minor extent. It won't save her from being hit by wide scale attacks nor will it give her enough of an advantage to land hits on Kakuzu. Its a genin level speed boost, not the equivalent of Sandaime Raikage's Lightning Release Armour.

 

[ItachiStyle]

Tsunade wins:

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[Zexion~]

^your argument about internal organs being damaged when earth skin up was wrong btw ( if that was you)

 

[ItachiStyle]

She can reverse his nerves on contact, so he loses control of his body. Kakuzu still has organs and such after all, and having "tough skin" doesn't nothing to protect you from that. Nor does "tough skin" protect you from medical scalpels, designed to go beneath the surface and get the nerves (I took this description of the chakra scalpel from the wiki, but it's backed up in the manga too: "Unlike regular scalpels, the chakra scalpel can actually make cuts inside the body without actually creating an open wound"). Nor does it help against someone with lightning affinity. Not to mention all the other ways Earth Spear is overrated and with poor feats.

 

[Zexion~]

^not really its an invulnerable defense besides lightning really yes the chakra scalpel could work but before you were saying that regular attacks could damage his internal organs.. which is just not true for chojis spikey human boulder showed no signs of even harming his organs or nerve systems . If id did leave the organs vulnerable he would of had concussion etc. But The organs were fine

 

[Negative Knight]

She can reverse his nerves on contact, so he loses control of his body. Kakuzu still has organs and such after all, and having "tough skin" doesn't nothing to protect you from that. Nor does "tough skin" protect you from medical scalpels, designed to go beneath the surface and get the nerves. Nor does it help against someone with lightning affinity. Not to mention all the other ways Earth Spear is overrated and with poor feats.

Reversing the nerves would open her up to attack from his masks. Even then, it seems as if she no longer includes it as part of her main battle style, but for the sake of debate i'll go on with it.

The jutsu would simply disorientate Kakuzu but not provide her with the means to break through his Doton defense. Even then, its extremely close-range and would require her to come within striking range of him, something the difference in speed between these two shinobi won't allow for.

Also, Tsunade doesn't possess Lightning Release, she simply converts her chakra to electricity and uses it to scramble the nerves within her opponent's body, saying she can use Raiton as a result is ridiculous.

Furthermore, Kakuzu's intelligence even if Tsunade used and successfully caught him with the jutsu would allow him to perform a similar feat after deciphering the nature of the jutsu. His analytical nature as shown when he overcame Shikamaru's Kage mane is definitely capable of such a feat.

I won't waste my time debating with you, you seem to be someone who dislikes Kakuzu along with a few other characters. You're favoritism of shinobi like the 2nd Mizukage shows you're not a reasonable person at all U_U.

 

[Edo Odin]

Reversing the nerves would open her up to attack from his masks. Even then, it seems as if she no longer includes it as part of her main battle style, but for the sake of debate i'll go on with it.

The jutsu would simply disorientate Kakuzu but not provide her with the means to break through his Doton defense. Even then, its extremely close-range and would require her to come within striking range of him, something the difference in speed between these two shinobi won't allow for.

Also, Tsunade doesn't possess Lightning Release, she simply converts her chakra to electricity and uses it to scramble the nerves within her opponent's body, saying she can use Raiton as a result is ridiculous.

Furthermore, Kakuzu's intelligence even if Tsunade used and successfully caught him with the jutsu would allow him to perform a similar feat after deciphering the nature of the jutsu. His analytical nature as shown when he overcame Shikamaru's Kage mane is definitely capable of such a feat.

I won't waste my time debating with you, you seem to be someone who dislikes Kakuzu along with a few other characters. You're favoritism of shinobi like the 2nd Mizukage shows you're not a reasonable person at all U_U.

Great post, and I just had to rep for the bold...He just made a top 20 list, with Itachi above Obito, Nagato, Naruto, Sasuke, Kabuto, and Orochimaru :I

 

[Zexion~]

^lmao saw that and fell on the ground