hiruzen being weaker than hashirama NOT A RETCON

[Lordlloyd7]

So true sir...so true!

 

[Lordlloyd7]

That sig is better than the bs you typed.

And we have a troll!

 

[ImNotScared]

Just shut up.

 

[villain55]

Agreed

 

[Stark]

Hiruzen > Hashirama as of now, flame on.

 

[Omnipotent]

Actually, I've made this point before.

The fact that people still believe Hiruzen > Hashirama is amazing to me.

 

[Fecal Matter]

That sig is better than the bs you typed.
Edit: i agree but seriously that sig <3

 

[Rayder]

Hiruzen prime doesn't even beat Hashirama's assumed strength. :|

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

people did not believe hashirama was as strong as he really was <-- this is extremely important to note

even if hiruzen was called the strongest hokage, it was done under premise that hashirama was not as strong as he actually was. people knew hashirama was strong (hence the nickname god of shinobi) but they were doubting how strong he really was

there is no retcon. kishi is not a troll. it makes perfect sense

hashirama actual strength > hiruzen prime strength > hashirama assumed strength

Plus rep to you sir!

 

[Kages]

That sig is better than the bs you typed.
Edit: i agree but seriously that sig <3

^^^This

Hiruzen > Hashirama (not by feats obviously)

 

[deva pein]

people did not believe hashirama was as strong as he really was <-- this is extremely important to note

even if hiruzen was called the strongest hokage, it was done under premise that hashirama was not as strong as he actually was. people knew hashirama was strong (hence the nickname god of shinobi) but they were doubting how strong he really was

there is no retcon. kishi is not a troll. it makes perfect sense

hashirama actual strength > hiruzen prime strength > hashirama assumed strength

Nice sig!

 

[Fecal Matter]

^^^This

Hiruzen > Hashirama (not by feats obviously)

Actually i didn't read the thread properly xd
i thought rasenrengan1 was the op.

 

[Prince Charles]

Hashiramas hype>>>>> hiruzen hype.

 

[edgarmagician]

Even though I agree that Hashirama is strong as hell, you can not say that he is stronger than Hiruzen until Kishi shows us Hiruzen's true strength. Hopefully we'll find out soon.

 

[NEO SENJU]

Hashirama is truly a God of shinobi...think about this hiruzen never had a nickname

 

[yep]

hashirama actual strength > hiruzen prime strength

I didn't know Hiruzen prime strength was revealed... It seems like I'm reading the wrong manga...

think about this hiruzen never had a nickname

he actually had... partly that's why this is a 100% retcon

 

[six paths of maths]

You are assuming that hashirama actual strength > hiruzen prime strength. So basically your saying hashirama actual strength>hiruzen assumed prime strength.

 

[six paths of maths]

You cannot assume which one is stronger unless you find out both of their full potential. The location could also make the difference. e.g. hashirama vs hiruzen in a gigangtic forest.

 

[Horus]

Hashirama's Actual strength > Hiruzen and all his hype

 

[yep]

hype says he's the god of shinobi so unless Hashi is a multiversal omnipotent being his actual strength doesn't beat 3rd's or even Pein's hype, of course his feats > Hiruzen's feats but even Gai can overpower a 70 years old grandpa so it's not a big deal