Stop Overpowering Minato and Tobimara!

[SuperFlyzzED]

I came here to address you people that keep overpowering Minato and Tobimara!

"Nobody can be serious about Minato beating Sasuke with no difficulty. I keep seeing the same things over and over! I
believe people don't even think twice about their opinions before replying to others. We understand they are both strong
in their own rights, but hasn't most Hokages lost fights to Akatsuki's, Sannin's, and Rogue Ninjas? So why must we keep
talking about someone's strength just because they're in the "Leaf Village?"

"Didn't Hiruzen lose to Orochimaru? Didn't Danzo lose to Sasuke? Didn't Minato fail to finish off Obito? Didn't Tobimara lose
to Gold and Silver Squad? Didn't Tsunade have her loses as well? You understand where i'm getting at here? Just because
they are Kages doesn't mean they are the best! Sure each of them have their own skill set, but many ninjas can beat them
in a 1-on-1 excluding possibly Tobimara aside from Hashirama."

"Now overpowering Hashirama isn't necessarily bad since he basically had a lot of bad rapport by many of you. Still, Hiruzen
was praised to be the strongest out of the four Kages which is far from the truth. Hiruzen was strong, but a far cry from
being powerful! Minato is arguably the fastest ninja along with Naruto, but he isn't the strongest and many people take his
speed to use for his strength! Speed can be trump just like Madara when he grabbed hold of A."

"Now many of you are saying that Sasuke can't hold his own against none of them! That's a complete bunch of lies for real!
But when push comes to shove you. When you see one of your beloved Kages losing you go, Ahh, but how? He was a
Kage? She was a Kage? Sasuke is already above Kage-level ninja just below Naruto. So i don't see why the constant
bashing of his character it's gotten worse ever since his collaboration match with Itachi against Kabuto."

I have seen people praise Minato the point where he can beat Juubi, Nagato, Itachi, Sasuke, Madara, etc... That's ridiculous
to point out for real! He is just pure speed that's all! Why the constant admiration about his speed being the validation of
being strong? He is skillful, but big deal! Speed can be taken down! Doesn't matter what method the person decides to
use!

Tobimara on the other hand is Hashirama's brother. I can't really see him being weak at all because they're brothers each
set of brothers is strong doesn't matter from what clan! He is the creator of Edo Tensei, a master of Suiton jutsu, and he
is said to have S/T techniques as well. We haven't seen him in battle to really make a claim that's he so great! We already
have knowledge about Hashirama so we can conclude that's he is the real deal, but not Tobimara!

Now to compare if any of them fought Sasuke! I don't see Hiruzen beating EMS Sasuke. I don't see Minato beating EMS
Sasuke. Tobimara has a chance, but a low one in fact! Hashirama clearly beats EMS Sasuke!

 

[Kages]

I agree with you

 

[Draphsin]

Tobirama>you

 

[piercethejen]

We honestly really haven't seen Minato's abilities to the fullest, the Raikage believed that he couldn't be defeated for a reason so i wouldn't say he could beat Sasuke but I wouldn't say Sasuke can beat him. EH.

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

I agree with you

Did you know that Hiruzen's not the God of Shinobi? xd

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Tobirama>you

Your in denial at the end of the day, but that's fine with me!

 

[9th Raikage]

Tobirama would slaughter Sasuke

I agree Hiruzen was waaaaaay over hyped.

Minato... we need to see him n action. His speed gives him a great advantage and his sealing abilities as well.

Sasuke is over hyped. Until I see what he can do I say Naruto owns him at this point.

 

[Solaris Vexius]

And ur overpowering Sasuke.

 

[doubledude]

I think it's Tobirama not Tobimara.

OT:

-We haven't seen Minato go all out, he might have a few haxx techs that we never saw.​

-We know nothing of Tobirama but it's safe to assume he isn't far behind his brother.​

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Tobirama would slaughter Sasuke

I agree Hiruzen was waaaaaay over hyped.

Minato... we need to see him n action. His speed gives him a great advantage and his sealing abilities as well.

Sasuke is over hyped. Until I see what he can do I say Naruto owns him at this point.

Didn't i say that Sasuke is below Naruto? How do you know Tobimara will slaughter Sasuke? Just because of a finger movement, bro? Tobimara has the biggest disadvantage seeing as Raiton beats Suiton with ease!

 

[Rike Senju]

What a whiner :| cry me a river.

 

[LolaxXx]

agreed. Hashirama beats most ninja in the series. Also, I think Sasuke can possibly beat Minato and Hiruzen as well, good matches, but the fights can go either way. I would hate to see any of them lose to Sasuke tho.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

saying minato>sasuke is saying fugaku>naruto

 

[Sazzi]

tobirama and minato would solo everyone.... esspecially sasuke

 

[LolaxXx]

Didn't i say that Sasuke is below Naruto? How do you know Tobimara will slaughter Sasuke? Just because of a finger movement, bro? Tobimara has the biggest disadvantage seeing as Raiton beats Suiton with ease!

Lighting vs Water can be a double edged sword. Lightning dosent weaken water, water just makes the lethallity of the lightning rise. So they would both need to be careful. This isnt pokemon where Tobirama is especially weak to it, Sasuke however can use his own lightning chakra to protect himself.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

I think it's Tobirama not Tobimara.

OT:

-We haven't seen Minato go all out, he might have a few haxx techs that we never saw.​

-We know nothing of Tobirama but it's safe to assume he isn't far behind his brother.​

I beg to differ on Tobimara only because he was afraid of Madara!

 

[novacore]

i hate sasuke, but he is the only living uchiha to have EMS. which means hes the closest to being on madara's level as any uchiha has been or is currently. Sasuke will definitely be powerful when we see him in action.

Do i think tobirama can defeat sasuke? Yes with maybe mid difficulty. high difficulty is pushing it for right now. Even though we dont tobiramas full arsenal yet, seeing everyone getting that worried when he powered up gives me reason to believe that they were not taking his powers lightly. Especially when juugo was trying to shield sasuke from the first attack.

Minato has speed and intelligence on sasuke. I think this fight could go either way, just because sasuke has EMS now and can spam w/e he wants as long as he has the chakra. Until minato shows more than just rasengan/sealing and S/t, its a draw imo.

I think the same with hiruzen about what i said with minato. Although i think sasuke might have a slight advantage against him.

hashirama rapes sasuke period.

Everything explained above excluding hashirama are mere speculation of course.

 

[LolaxXx]

saying minato>sasuke is saying fugaku>naruto

becuase we have seen Fugaku fight? No, so its not the same.

 

[BladerItachi]

Over-rated Minato and Hiruzen to the extent that they are called god LMAO

I think Tobirama can solo Sasuke...... He just moved his fingers during the latest chapter and everyone including Sasuke was on red-alert and by his expression I can see he was clearly feeling uneasy

And since how in Naruto the brothers are always almost equally strong like Madara/Izuna, Sasuke/Itachi if Hashirama can defeat Sasuke Tobirama should be able as well

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Over-rated Minato and Hiruzen to the extent that they are called god LMAO

I think Tobirama can solo Sasuke...... He just moved his fingers during the latest chapter and everyone including Sasuke was on red-alert and by his expression I can see he was clearly feeling uneasy

And since how in Naruto the brothers are always almost equally strong like Madara/Izuna, Sasuke/Itachi if Hashirama can defeat Sasuke Tobirama should be able as well

That's a pathetic assumption! Everyone in the room had a reaction to Tobimara, not only Sasuke! Second, Tobimara shit his pants when Hashirama was glaring at him. I don't see your point until we see him in action i don't see him above Sasuke.