Regarding the Latest Chapter...

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The Uchiha have to love someone deeply and have the painful despair of loss brought upon them to obtain the Mangekyou, correct?

I already know what homophobic trollz are going to say, but hear me out.

I can not, CAN NOT see Itachi Uchiha with a woman, for one thing. And, no, it's not because I'm a fangirl orgasming all over the prospect of a canon yaoi shipping. He just doesn't seem to be the type attracted to them. If anything, Itachi would? want a challenge, somebody who could match him. Which brings me to my next point: Shisui.

Again, look at my profile picture, make your assumptions, yes, yes, but think about it. As far as we know, Shisui w!as so close to Itachi that not only were they best friends, but he thought of Shisui as his older brother. That requires implicit trust, especially from an Uchiha. From anyone, really. And Itachi seemed a bit melancholic when he saw Shisui's eye in the crow, for whatever reason. Itachi built his bloody beliefs around this guy for Jashin's sake! And to top it off, when Tobi said lover, he used a gender-neutral term "Koi."

It may just be me. But there had to be SOMETHING more there, acted upon or not. Something deeper than friendship. I'm not some twelve year old shounen-ai maniac either. I'm considering this rationally. There may be somethings I left out but whatever. What do you all think? I wanna know. And ignorant replies will be ignored. ;) You have been warned.

Honest opinions, anyone? I know it isn't just I who has thought this.
 

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We don't know the exact point of time he awakened the MS so it's either the loss of a friend, or the imminent loss of his family and his brother.
 
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We don't know the exact point of time he awakened the MS so it's either the loss of a friend, or the imminent loss of his family and his brother.

He did gain it after Shisui's death. The morning after, if not the night of. That's why he didn't attend the meeting. Remember?
 

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You can only speculate on this topic so theres no point to go any further unless Kishi tells us more of the back story of both of them.


We don't know the exact point of time he awakened the MS so it's either the loss of a friend, or the imminent loss of his family and his brother.

This ^^^^^^^
 

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He did gain it after Shisui's death. The morning after, if not the night of. That's why he didn't attend the meeting. Remember?

I remember him activating them then but he might have awoken them before that. I don't think Shisui awakened the MS before Itachi. You should wonder what made Shisui awaken the MS :p
 

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He did gain it after Shisui's death. The morning after, if not the night of. That's why he didn't attend the meeting. Remember?

They never said shisui died didnt they, didnt they say he walked off and entrusted his beliefs to Itachi
 
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I remember him activating them then but he might have awoken them before that. I don't think Shisui awakened the MS before Itachi. You should wonder what made Shisui awaken the MS :p

I do, actually. All the time. But Shisui most likely activated it before Itachi, hence the Koto Amatsukami that Shisui gifted to Itachi within his eye. And while.this is all mainly surmised on my part, what I've gathered from the series states that Itachi awakened the MS with Shisui's death. Sasuke.claims to have never seen it before that day, and when asked why he wasn't present at the meeting, he claimed, roughly, "To reach a new level."

I would die to know how Shisui gained his MS. Maybe he was a member of ROOT? But he probably wouldn't be adept at making friends with anyone, much less itachi if the training methods we've seen exhibited in ROOT existed back then.

They never said shisui died didnt they, didnt they say he walked off and entrusted his beliefs to Itachi

I believe they said it multiple times, if not only once. "He died silently," was what Itachi said.
 
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...He's not gay if that's what you're referring to. Itachi was no stranger to love, and I'm not too sure that he suppressed it like all the other Uchiha. Remember, he carried their name, but did not exactly follow the clan.
 

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Kishimoto now needs to explain how every single MS user obtained the eyes :p
 
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...He's not gay if that's what you're referring to. Itachi was no stranger to love, and I'm not too sure that he suppressed it like all the other Uchiha. Remember, he carried their name, but did not exactly follow the clan.

True with the name, but I'm not implying he was gay. I'm only stating my opinion that he probably only had a fondness.for Shisui, disregarding other males and females alike accordingly. I probably.should have posted that in the first post. ^_^` All apologies.

Kishimoto now needs to explain how every single MS user obtained the eyes :p

He really does.
 
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Itachi was sexually involved with Shisui of the bodyflicker xd
now on a serious note he probably loved shisui like a brother as sasuke awakened his ms when itachi died... well when he learned the truth bout itachi
 
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Nah, I think it's more likely they had the kind of relationship Madara and Izuna had. Just brotherly, but very deep. Highly unlikely Kishimoto would include a gay pairing like that in a manga aimed at 12-15 year old boys.

Maybe. Like I said, I'm only surmising. But who knows? Naruto and Sasuke locked lips within the first few episodes! I'm kidding, but you never know. I've heard the ending of Naruto will be implied NaruSasuNaru. Some.form of the pairing, anyways. But rumours are things with wings.

Itachi was sexually inolved with Shisui of the bodyflicker xd

>\\< Disregarding my previous claims, I do still enjoy the prospect.
 
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@Guardian of the Nakano: These are some relevant points that I had not thought of but lets not taint this series for the sake of our own rationale. This Shisui-Itachi business should be cleared up all too soon. However I am in agreement with the manner in which Itachi reacted towards Shisui's eye. #pleaseandthankyou
 

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Kishimoto now needs to explain how every single MS user obtained the eyes :p

he basically did U_U
-sasuke; after finding out about Itachi's past he realized that his brother really loved him. Intern making him love itachi/Lost
-Shisui; fodder that just happened to have the most Haxed genjutsu ever
-Itachi: lost a great friend whom he loved like a brother, or some shid like that
-Obito Watched his best friend Penetrate the girl of his dreams >.> i wanted it to sound like that
-Kakashi; tbh i dont think it awakened from rin's death maybe from Obito's ms awakening Linked.
-Madara and Izuna; if i remember correctly they killed their parent or some shid whom i'd expect them to love but a lost for the clan
Did i miss any?
 

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Wasnt it said somewhere that Itachi had a girlfriend?
 

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You have an interesting topic, but I doubt it. Alright lets analyze what the most recent chapter showed us. The Second Hokage said that "the Uchiha are the ones that valued love and friendship above all else..." He further stated that because of this they sealed this attribute of theirs off. With this being said Itachi was probably one of the few Uchihas that knew this truth, as clarified by the Third stating that Itachi was very inquisitive about Uchiha ancestry and things of the like, and also the fact that he achieved the MS. With this knowledge, Itachi embraced this innate love that the Uchiha tried to hide from future Uchihas. Not to mention, Itachi on top of that was a pacifist, and was very caring so he was probably a really reliable friend because of the knowledge that he attained and his nature that probably developed as the Shinobi war continued during his youth.
 

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I don't know... I for one am not the type to compare family love and friendship bonds to lovers. I find almost anything stronger than love that can be viewed as lust or sexual. It's not stable. His love would definitely be brotherly for Shisui.
 

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It would be cool if Kishi made such a powerful characters like Itachi and Shisui homosexuals.
 
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