Kishi ruining the chronology on a whim

[veggetta13]

So it never happened in other words.

She inherited the necklace from him, but it never before said they met... this creates an annoying timeline anomoly.

Every once in a while there´s a thread in which you realize how many of the constant practicers of thread-spamming truly know about a manga (you are supposed to retorically think:-hell yeah!, if not incarnating one of the mentioned).

 

[ItachiStyle]

Quote me the page where Tsunade is said to have met Hashirama before now.

 

[Lightning Release]

Failed thread lololol.

 

[veggetta13]

Quote me the page where Tsunade is said to have met Hashirama before now.

very well, you quote, just the same, the chapter and page on which Jiraiya and Itachi meet.

Do you agree?

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In this one, you see she relates herself to the 1st Hokage, Hashirama.

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I hope you are aware that Kishi does supervise the anime, he speaks the sorts of yes´s and no´s needed to run a show

 

[Sussanoo]

Tsunade was like, 4, when Hashirama died.

 

[ItachiStyle]

The fact that she knows of them does not mean she knew them personally... Itachi knows of Madara and the times he lived in, and tells us all about it, but it didn't mean he personally knew them. That scan is proof of nothing.

What we have here is a massive timeline f#@$ up by Kishi... there's no way to fit all the stuff in the current timeline now.

 

[ItachiStyle]

And while they talk to Kishi a little about the anime, they also do lots of stuff that contradicts other things he puts in the Manga, so the idea he's appoving all the filler is silly. For instance, almost as soon as they did the scene involving the Valley of the End fight, Kishi introduced a "Wood Dragon" that flatly contradicts the anime scene. And there are many, many similar examples. Bottom line, this is a timeline screw up.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

She was a very little girl, much younger than genin. That leaves an extra half-dozen years

it has shown flash backs of her and the 1st talking when she was a kid in the first part of the manga.

it has already shown tsunade with hashirama in pictures before..
but i see your obvious point..
maybe she was born with that jutsu to make her look younger
and used it in those pictures,lol
but yeah it is disturbing

Naw, when Tsunade first appeared it was shown that HASHIRAMA KNEW TSUNADE THEre was a panel showing them together

Your slow kid they showed flash backs of her in the 1st in part 1 Naruto get your facts up b4 u try and call Kishi out

Exactly. People are always trying to catch Kishi slipping LOL! Yet they always fail, as you have.

In the earlier episodes of the manga, there was no picture of Tsunade with her grandfather, it was in the anime, but i always knew she knew him, because he gave her the necklace. But this Chapter makes their relationship clear

One tincy-wincy little thing. . . . . . THAT WAS ONLY IN THE ANIME. . . . . . :y

OT: Check out my Timeline in my Sig.

 

[ItachiStyle]

As he says... it was Anime only... otherwise we're still left with a gaping timeline problem.

Remember, Saru was a kid when Hashirama died. He was a teen when Tobirama died. He was an adult with a full on goatee when Tsunade was a genin under him (and she graduated from the Academy at age 6), who had been Hokage long enough to have his Goatee'd face carved into the Mountain. There's literally no way to make her age fit the previous timeline.

Let's charitably assume Tsunade was 3 at the time Hashi died. Then let's assume Tobirama was Hokage only 3 years (enough time to do the stuff he did in theory I suppose). That still leaves Hiruzen a teenager who has to grow some years to become a man, and Tsunade already having graduated to Genin. It just doesn't fit.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

As he says... it was Anime only... otherwise we're still left with a gaping timeline problem.

Remember, Saru was a kid when Hashirama died. He was a teen when Tobirama died. He was an adult with a full on goatee when Tsunade was a genin under him (and she graduated from the Academy at age 6), who had been Hokage long enough to have his Goatee'd face carved into the Mountain. There's literally no way to make her age fit the previous timeline.

Let's charitably assume Tsunade was 3 at the time Hashi died. Then let's assume Tobirama was Hokage only 3 years (enough time to do the stuff he did in theory I suppose). That still leaves Hiruzen a teenager who has to grow some years to become a man, and Tsunade already having graduated to Genin. It just doesn't fit.

Hiruzen and the Sannin's ages are known, the only problem for me is Hashirama's death. :shrug:

 

[2big]

ahh man, everybody already took the huge sh1t that i wanted to take on this thread, oh well

 

[ItachiStyle]

As he says... it was Anime only... otherwise we're still left with a gaping timeline problem.

Remember, Saru was a kid when Hashirama died. He was a teen when Tobirama died. He was an adult with a full on goatee when Tsunade was a genin under him (and she graduated from the Academy at age 6), who had been Hokage long enough to have his Goatee'd face carved into the Mountain. There's literally no way to make her age fit the previous timeline.

Let's charitably assume Tsunade was 3 at the time Hashi died. Then let's assume Tobirama was Hokage only 3 years (enough time to do the stuff he did in theory I suppose). That still leaves Hiruzen a teenager who has to grow some years to become a man, and Tsunade already having graduated to Genin. It just doesn't fit.

PS- The Sannin ages weren't unknown... huh?

 

[veggetta13]

Hiruzen and the Sannin's ages are known, the only problem for me is Hashirama's death. :shrug:

the thing Tsunade, spoke about the guy 3 or 4 times, yeah, he was also the hokage, but, it´s shows she did have a grandfather didn´t she?

If I hadn´t known my grandpa, and he were the hokage, I would´ve called d bastard hokage.

My thoughts on the issue, I do believe with not much of manga, but anime suggested evidence, Kishi has suggested us, they did meet each other.

But what for, u b.s. on something like this, on your own story? That would be useless, honestly, on details which would be later conformed on fact book smade by Kishi, on which if stats mean bull shiet, little photo foot like the ones we speak about, are treated seriously by him.

These are the writer´s kinda notes

 

[ANBUITACHIUCHIHA]

Tsunade is the same age as jiraya and around the same age as the tsuchikage.. she calls the tsuchikage a old man at the summit and he said your just as old as me.. and the tsuchikage fought madara

 

[veggetta13]

Tsunade is the same age as jiraya and around the same age as the tsuchikage.. she calls the tsuchikage a old man at the summit and he said your just as old as me.. and the tsuchikage fought madara

nice, u are being punctual. There u go Uchistyle, this dude just told u it´s just a bunch of 100 and olde geezer party

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

the thing Tsunade, spoke about the guy 3 or 4 times, yeah, he was also the hokage, but, it´s shows she did have a grandfather didn´t she?

If I hadn´t known my grandpa, and he were the hokage, I would´ve called d bastard hokage.

My thoughts on the issue, I do believe with not much of manga, but anime suggested evidence, Kishi has suggested us, they did meet each other.

But what for, u b.s. on something like this, on your own story? That would be useless, honestly, on details which would be later conformed on fact book smade by Kishi, on which if stats mean bull shiet, little photo foot like the ones we speak about, are treated seriously by him.

These are the writer´s kinda notes

Yeah, they did meet. . . . . . . . . so what's your problem. . . . . . . . ?

 

[ANBUITACHIUCHIHA]

nice, u are being punctual. There u go Uchistyle, this dude just told u it´s just a bunch of 100 and olde geezer party

UCHISTYLE!!!! lol

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

Hiruzen and the Sannin's ages are known, the only problem for me is Hashirama's death. :shrug:

Figuring out that shouldn't present any significant problems:

• Tobirama became Hokage after Hashirama died
• Tobirama created the Acadamy during his reign as Hokage.
• Hashirama died before the acadamy came into existence
• Tunade was 6 when she graduated from the acadamy and became a genin under Hiruzen.
• Tsunade must have been at the acadamy for a minimum of one year. So, she was a maximum of 5 years old when she entered the acadamy.
• Tsunade was a minimum 2 years old when Hashi was still alive.

Conclusion?

• Hashirama died when Tsunade was between the ages of 2-5.
• Tsunade is 54 years old
• Hashirama died 49-52 years before the present!!

 

[veggetta13]

Yeah, they did meet. . . . . . . . . so what's your problem. . . . . . . . ?

veggetta13-uchihastyle.............

I still believe Obito is actually the ramen guy, he is just so vulgar

 

[ItachiStyle]

Onoki is supposed to be much older than Tsunade... Tsunade is meant to be 50 at the start of the manga... and about 55 now. The ages don't match, but hey, just keep ignoring the evidence and repeating lame one liners.