Kishi ruining the chronology on a whim

[Uchiha Samater]

no proof how long Tobirama was hokage

no proof when Hashirama died

early manga chapters showed flashback of Tsunade and Hashirama,

Hashirama say he teach Tsunade Gambling, then Hashirama teach Tsunade Gambling

EXCELLENT SUPER GENIUS NUMBER 1 PLOT HOLE FINDER, Y U NO READ MANGA?

 

[Imperius]

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this was from a very early episode (not shippuuden)

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

no proof how long Tobirama was hokage

no proof when Hashirama died

early manga chapters showed flashback of Tsunade and Hashirama,

Hashirama say he teach Tsunade Gambling, then Hashirama teach Tsunade Gambling

EXCELLENT SUPER GENIUS NUMBER 1 PLOT HOLE FINDER, Y U NO READ MANGA?

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this was from a very early episode (not shippuuden)

Which was Anime, which makes it non-canon, until last chapter. :y

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

i hope everyone knows that the anime is based of the manga ...you guys know that right....(yes i know they are fillers which have to be made cuz 3 manga chapters are like one frikin episode).....again does the anime not show anything from the manga ??? yes everything in the manga has been in the anime.

 

[Kirin Rei]

i hope everyone knows that the anime is based of the manga ...you guys know that right....(yes i know they are fillers which have to be made cuz 3 manga chapters are like one frikin episode).....again does the anime not show anything from the manga ??? yes everything in the manga has been in the anime.

Yup, but think of it like sets in maths.

The manga is the subset of anime but what we consider canon is solely the manga. So even though the anime has elements from the manga, not everything it contains is canon. Only the elements that are in both the anime and manga sets are considered canon. :shrug:

 

[Honord Sage]

Fact Tsunade is over 55 in age, She sat on Her Grandfathers lap and learn yo bet what so hard to believe? Can't any of you Remember your Grandfather? , I do.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

It showed tsunade very young. She was probably like 3-5 years old when Hashirama died. This does bring fourth a small timeline problem. Remember the flashback when Hiruzen was appointed 3rd hokage? This is when the second died. Since the second was Hashirama's brother, and died relatively young, it can be assumed that Hashirama hadn't died much more than a few years before Tobirama died. In the flashback Hiruzen is shown to be in his late teens, early twenties. Hiruzen is like 18 years older than tsunade.

Basically, in order for Tsunade to have known Hashirama, Hiruzen would have had to been in his twenties at least when the second died, and the first had to have died only a few years before the second. This is possible, considering they lived in a time where war was common. I don't think the second reigned for very long after Hashirama died because he died himself only a few years later.

 

[Nosferato]

This topic is proof that 80% of narutobase is illiterate. it took two and a half pages before someone submitted a response that actually addressed TC's concerns with the timeline. Despite this, about half of the posts after this point were still 'She could have met hashi shes old enough.'

I think that TC makes a very good point, and a few people have argued the other way, but it annoys me how many people bash TC without ever reading the topic. The scary thought is that they did read it but could not understand what TC so very clearly explained.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

This whole chronology problem is based on the idea so much could not have happened in such a small time span. As people have pointed out it could have. I don't see a problem.

 

[ImNoOne]

Sarutobi was 69 when Tsunade was 50, that makes him 19 years older than her. Sarutobi was around the same age when he became Hokage. So I guess someone made a mistake...

 

[ItachiStyle]

The death of Hashi, the entire reign of Tobirama, and Hiruzen going from teen to adult happened in 3 years??!

 

[Talal]

Yeah, I really can't comprehend how he could have been alive to meet her. I made a thread saying basically the same thing.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

It was never stated how far into the age of the village that Hashirama died. Madara could have left a few years after the start of the village and then returned a few years later to attack. That gives plenty of time for Hashi to see his granddaughter Tsunade.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

So, the only problem you have is that so many things happened in three to four years, not the chronology. :|
It has been explained to you a million times yet you still choose to disregard it and stick to the claim that it doesn't fit.

Konoha was completely rebuilt after the Pein Arc in quite a short time and you're still claiming that a couple of buildings, mountain art, one travel to Kumo, injury and recovery and some political devolopments are too much for four years...

Not to mention that the 4th great ninja war is coming to conclusion after a few days.

 

[ImNoOne]

It was never stated how far into the age of the village that Hashirama died. Madara could have left a few years after the start of the village and then returned a few years later to attack. That gives plenty of time for Hashi to see his granddaughter Tsunade.

Hashirama's age is irrelevant. He was dead when Sarutobi became hokage. And the third became hokage at the age of 19.

When Sarutobi died he was 69 and Orochimaru, Tnusade and Jirayha were 50. That makes them only 19 years older than Sarutobi. Meaning they were born at most during Tobirama's hokageship. Meaning none of them ever knew Hashirama.

 

[Pervy Wrath]

Trust me, if you look into the Naruto timeline, you will find A LOT of faulty stuff, things that just aren't possible, chronologically speaking. It's the one thing I hate about Naruto

 

[know it all]

it has shown flash backs of her and the 1st talking when she was a kid in the first part of the manga.

This^

 

[Floydical]

I don't get what everyone's so butt-hurt about. We knew for a fact that Hashirama lived at least until Tsunade's birth. Now we know he lived until she was at least 4 or 5, that's not much of a difference.

 

[oShux]

There are alot of plot holes in naruto. Like how naruto seems to be in an old fashioned timeline and yet they have TV. And satelites, since when can ninja's go into space? And another thing they have to use messenger birds to other villages to contact each other, and yet team guy and team 7 were using headphone ear pieces to communicate with each other :sy:

 

[Kirin Rei]

There are alot of plot holes in naruto. Like how naruto seems to be in an old fashioned timeline and yet they have TV. And satelites, since when can ninja's go into space? And another thing they have to use messenger birds to other villages to contact each other, and yet team guy and team 7 were using headphone ear pieces to communicate with each other :sy:

That's not a plothole, that's just Narutoverse, an alternate universe.

Think of steampunk or cyberpunk or other modern RPG fantasy realities. Steampunk is based on an alternate universe where every technological devolopment has been built on steam rather than electricity after the industrial revolution. Which gives the result of aviation devices and ground travel devices having steam powered engines instead of combustion engines. In steampunk electricity is sometimes used, but not to the extent of reality.

It's the same in Narutoverse. We don't know how developed the electrical technology they have is, so it doesn't count as a plothole.