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Is iruka stating hiruzen was consider the strongest hokage and madara stating that people called hashirama the strongest shinobi contradicting each other?

Also is orochimaru calling hiruzen the god of shinobi and kabuto calling hashirama power being considered a fairytale conflicting each other?
 

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Is iruka stating hiruzen was consider the strongest hokage and madara stating that people called hashirama the strongest shinobi contradicting each other?

Also is orochimaru calling hiruzen the god of shinobi and kabuto calling hashirama power being considered a fairytale conflicting each other?

I think Madara knows best because he knows first hand. Also, back then Kishimoto didn't even plan on reviving Madara I guess.
 

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Some characters have different perspectives, I guess.
 

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I think Madara knows best because he knows first hand. Also, back then Kishimoto didn't even plan on reviving Madara I guess.

But madara only fought 2 of the 5 hokages? I would think a person who teach the history of the village for multiple years would have more information considering he has personally seen and know 3 of the 5.
 

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But madara only fought 2 of the 5 hokages? I would think a person who teach the history of the village for multiple years would have more information considering he has personally seen and know 3 of the 5.

Seen but not fought against them. So who knows..
 

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But madara only fought 2 of the 5 hokages? I would think a person who teach the history of the village for multiple years would have more information considering he has personally seen and know 3 of the 5.
Ignorrance at its best please tell me how Hiruzen beats Madara then come talk to me. Manga Proves Madara>Hiruzen.
Please re-read the manga.
 

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hiruzen was only said to have been the strongest because hashirama`s power was so great that everyone thought it was just a fairytale that was made up
 

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Ignorrance at its best please tell me how Hiruzen beats Madara then come talk to me. Manga Proves Madara>Hiruzen.
Please re-read the manga.

I never said hiruzen could defeat madara so what are you talking about
 

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who cares? it will all be sourted out soon, when we can actually compare their strength
 

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Yeah its Like O'maru & Iruka are Hiruzen Fan
While Kabuto & Dan was Hashirama fan
Jiraiya & kakashi were minato fan

NO ONE in manga Tobirama fan thats why Tobi is Tobirama Fan

No One = Masked guy
Masked Guy = Tobi
Tobi = Obito.

also explain why obito changed his name to Tobi cuz he was Tobirama fan
 

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If Hashirama's power was described as being fairytale-like (in the same sense as Rikudou Sennin's), and if the people who heard of his power didn't believe in its immensity, then there's an obvious contradiction with Hiruzen's hype. You're basically saying that people would believe in the power of a 'God of Shinobi', but wouldn't believe in the 1st Hokage's 'weaker' strength, which makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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All the hokages were the strongests of their generation..
 
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Yeah its Like O'maru & Iruka are Hiruzen Fan
While Kabuto & Dan was Hashirama fan
Jiraiya & kakashi were minato fan

NO ONE in manga Tobirama fan thats why Tobi is Tobirama Fan

No One = Masked guy
Masked Guy = Tobi
Tobi = Obito.

also explain why obito changed his name to Tobi cuz he was Tobirama fan

I see how this works. Basically everyone thinks their favorite____is the best/strongest yada yada. Biased opinions
 

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Its a matter of perspective. Like an older guy arguing with a young guy about who's better Jordan or Lebron. (Its Jordan btw)
 

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Is it contradicting that people used to call Micheal jordan the best basket ball player but people today call lebron james the best?

No, at the time of Madara, Hashirama was the best, remember that Hiruzen was still a kid at that time, but madara and hashirama both died, Hiruzen grew to be stronger than hashirama, and when awoken madara who rightfully knows nothing about hashirama still proclaims hashirama to be the strongest.
 

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Madara said people CALLED hashirama the strongest shinobi.. he was speaking in the past tensei , and refering to people in his era..
his statement was basically the same as saying Hashirama was the strongest ninja in his time..

Does not in any way contradict hiruzen's hype
 

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Is it contradicting that people used to call Micheal jordan the best basket ball player but people today call lebron james the best?

No, at the time of Madara, Hashirama was the best, remember that Hiruzen was still a kid at that time, but madara and hashirama both died, Hiruzen grew to be stronger than hashirama, and when awoken madara who rightfully knows nothing about hashirama still proclaims hashirama to be the strongest.

Yes it is because people still call both the best when there's really no way of knowing unless someone invents a time machine and they play at their peaks.
 
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