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BossManKakashi said:
Minato has said to have been surpassed by naruto, so now he couldn't take on km naruto plus others, that's absurdity at its finest.
You are speculating about who is gonna get kuramas other half. Stop it.
Kurama filled alliance could stomp edo hokages quite easily if they can stop the Juubi plus Madara and obito.
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i think you're forgetting about hashi's mokuton that can suppress the kyuubi's chakra.... it would be a hell of a fight... i think Taka, Oro, and the 4 edo hokages would win because the kyuubi wouldnt be a factor, FTG, Bringer of Darkness genjutsu, and edo tensei... plus EMS....... what notable shinobi are left in the alliance? and what shape are they in right now?.. but i doubt oro will be able to control them... i think they'll break free
 
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bpkiddo said:
i think you're forgetting about hashi's mokuton that can suppress the kyuubi's chakra.... it would be a hell of a fight... i think Taka, Oro, and the 4 edo hokages would win because the kyuubi wouldnt be a factor, FTG, Bringer of Darkness genjutsu, and edo tensei... plus EMS....... what notable shinobi are left in the alliance? and what shape are they in right now?.. but i doubt oro will be able to control them... i think they'll break free
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wood release hasnt helped madara vs the kyuubi cloak. and there are plenty of notable shinobi left; Naruto, Kakashi, Gai, Darui, Killer B, Mifune, Kitsuchi, Shikamaru and nara clan, choji and his clan are BEAST, the hyuuga, kankuro and temari, kurotsuchi and others.
 
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BossManKakashi said:
Orochimaru is not the strongest shinobi in history for the love of god..

1. Sasuke is in control of the whole scenario if anything he will be the one who is strongest.
2. Nine tails army > 4 hokages
3. Oro isn't going to rise as a main antagonist again, sasuke can own orochimaru now with ems if itachi could with ms. There are no control talismans on the hokages and sasuke isnt gonna let him control those hokages. Believe that.
4. Where can you find one shred of evidence that oro is definitively better than jiraiya? I say this cause there are lots of ninja better than jiraiya meaning your boy oro isn't even top 5
5. Oro < Nagato
6. The main villain is by and far Madara uchia.. He been running game and manipulatin the whole shinobi world since before orochimarus parents were even born. Madara is the real OG you know this.
7. Oro stated he could be killed by 4 tails naruto, what do you think km naruto could do?
8. Even if orochimaru controls the hokages, What do you think that GAI and Kakashi naruto with kurama chakra share and lets say sai for sealing would do to oro and the 4 hokages? Considering rock lee fodderized edo Madara team naruto would crush them with imputiny.

Orochimaru isn't the greatest shinobi of all time, face it.
Ps maybe you aren't creepy but being an oro fanboy connotates "creepy"
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1.How is Sasuke in complete control when the Hokages are under Oro's technique and he has control of them?

2.Yeah an army of 9 tails chakra boosted shinobi is stronger than him, but in terms of a single persons power he's definitely high up there at this point

3. As far as him rising as the main antagonist, no one can really say yet for sure. I think he's going to play a big role in the future, and will probably we one of hte last remaining villains in the end. For right now what either me or you say is all speculation and not fact.

4.For most characters there isn't like a list you can refer to for who is stronger. A lot of people say Oro is stronger than Jiraiya, but it's an opinion and cant be anything other than that. They base the opinion off what we have seen from both characters.

5.I don't see a lot of people arguing Oro is stronger than Nagato, but if he's using 4 kage as summons he'd give anyone a hard time..

6.Another thing that isn't fact but a prediction. It's possible Madara is going to be the main villain all the way to the end but once again simply speculation

7.Anyone can be killed by 4 tails Naruto nobody can tank all of his attacks. This doesn't mean that they can't defeat him but the possibility of dying is present for everyone.

8.This last one is just a random battle scenario which is once again speculation.
 
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Ero sennin jiraiya said:
1.How is Sasuke in complete control when the Hokages are under Oro's technique and he has control of them?

2.Yeah an army of 9 tails chakra boosted shinobi is stronger than him, but in terms of a single persons power he's definitely high up there at this point

3. As far as him rising as the main antagonist, no one can really say yet for sure. I think he's going to play a big role in the future, and will probably we one of hte last remaining villains in the end. For right now what either me or you say is all speculation and not fact.

4.For most characters there isn't like a list you can refer to for who is stronger. A lot of people say Oro is stronger than Jiraiya, but it's an opinion and cant be anything other than that. They base the opinion off what we have seen from both characters.

5.I don't see a lot of people arguing Oro is stronger than Nagato, but if he's using 4 kage as summons he'd give anyone a hard time..

6.Another thing that isn't fact but a prediction. It's possible Madara is going to be the main villain all the way to the end but once again simply speculation

7.Anyone can be killed by 4 tails Naruto nobody can tank all of his attacks. This doesn't mean that they can't defeat him but the possibility of dying is present for everyone.

8.This last one is just a random battle scenario which is once again speculation.
By the way i love weiners
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nowhere in this response did you list any logical points of feats. orochimaru isnt going to surpass sasuke at this point that would make no sense and destroy the whole point of the manga. i dont see obito or madara being killed by 4 tails naruto, and the "random battle scenario" is just proof that orochimaru isnt the most badass thing out there even if he is controlling 4 of the greatest shinobi of all time. dont you think that shows just how weak orochimaru is compared to the true powerhouse characters? that he couldnt even win now with 4 hokages on his team.

there is a difference between "speculating" and making an educated assumption. you seem to speculate based on your love of orochimaru, who in reality a 2nd rate villain in this series and when he doesnt do anything significant yet again you will realize how biased and blind you really are.
 
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BossManKakashi said:
Orochimaru is not the strongest shinobi in history for the love of god..

1. Sasuke is in control of the whole scenario if anything he will be the one who is strongest.
2. Nine tails army > 4 hokages
3. Oro isn't going to rise as a main antagonist again, sasuke can own orochimaru now with ems if itachi could with ms. There are no control talismans on the hokages and sasuke isnt gonna let him control those hokages. Believe that.
4. Where can you find one shred of evidence that oro is definitively better than jiraiya? I say this cause there are lots of ninja better than jiraiya meaning your boy oro isn't even top 5
5. Oro < Nagato
6. The main villain is by and far Madara uchia.. He been running game and manipulatin the whole shinobi world since before orochimarus parents were even born. Madara is the real OG you know this.
7. Oro stated he could be killed by 4 tails naruto, what do you think km naruto could do?
8. Even if orochimaru controls the hokages, What do you think that GAI and Kakashi naruto with kurama chakra share and lets say sai for sealing would do to oro and the 4 hokages? Considering rock lee fodderized edo Madara team naruto would crush them with imputiny.

Orochimaru isn't the greatest shinobi of all time, face it.
Ps maybe you aren't creepy but being an oro fanboy connotates "creepy"
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you oro couldnt beat naruto with no hands . if oro had his justu he would destroy 4 tail naruto.you underrate oro. oro and edo kage solo shinobi alliance if madara could do it by himself im sure the four hokages can
 
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