Hashirama Senju VS 3rd Raikage

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No matter what you guys say, his flower power jutsu is near instantaneous, according to Tsunade, and there's no way the Sandaime Raikage's noticing that he's starting to fall unconscious and getting out of a forest of this size in time:
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Hashirama wins.
Hashi can just seal him after he inhales the spores from flowering tree world.
With restrictions on total darkness and flower world. 3rd would win lol
Advent of a World of Flower Trees will without a doubt catch him, same with Bringer of Darkness. However, the former only knocks the victim unconscious and the latter only blinds him. Hashi still has to deal with killing him.

When has Hashi sealed someone away @Klaves?
 
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Hashirama wins. Wood Dragon,Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees and Multiple Mokuton clones these will trick and suppress the 3rd's chakra and knock him out Hashirama also can regenerate without Handseals and he must have beast chakra reserves if he fought the Kyuubi and EMS Madara.
 

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Hashirama wins. Wood Dragon,Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees and Multiple Mokuton clones these will trick and suppress the 3rd's chakra and knock him out Hashirama also can regenerate without Handseals and he must have beast chakra reserves if he fought the Kyuubi and EMS Madara.
He can make him unconscious but he still can't kill him. Also, Mokuton has only been able to suppress tailed beast chakra, not regular.
Feats or Hype, whichever one you chose the 3rd Raikage gets stomped.
In no scenario does he get stomped. A draw at best. Feats AND hype.

I'm sorry, but anyone who said 3rd Raikage takes it is delusional.

Hashirama rapes.
Explain? Debate? Lols.
 

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He can make him unconscious but he still can't kill him. Also, Mokuton has only been able to suppress tailed beast chakra, not regular.

In no scenario does he get stomped. A draw at best. Feats AND hype.
Mokuton on a landscape changing scale and and a lot of properties, for example the property to absorb chakra, pollen which paralyze you and put you asleep in the case you inhale and a number of Mokuton Bunshin with a humans durability and the abilities of the original. Furthermore medical skills above Tsunades level and A-rank Genjutsu like the Bringer of Darkness, which can only be dissolved in the case you touch the caster, conceivably a Bunshin of a group of ten. Right down the line overall skills, a lot of battle experience and genes so strong that cannot be controlled by everyone, reduce techniques intervals from 10 years down to a few hours and give you a powerboost when you only have a fraction of it. Since Zetsu, being a clon of Hashirama with even low quality is a sensor type, it is likely much that Hashirama is a sensor, too. Hashirama enjoys god status, the third Raikage is called a difficult opponent as he's a tank with a great offense and defense who fought a Biju to tie. Hashirama beat the perfect Susanoo, which is two to three times bigger than a Biju and obliterates the landscape and a distant mountain range by a single swing of its sword. Hashirama fights on a level where any Kage is not worthy to be even mentioned.

It is clear as day, that the third Raikage would get stomped.
 
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Mokuton on a landscape changing scale and and a lot of properties, for example the property to absorb chakra, pollen which paralyze you and put you asleep in the case you inhale and a number of Mokuton Bunshin with a humans durability and the abilities of the original.

Agreed, the 3rd will likely inhale the pollen and suffer those effects, but how would that kill him? A battle is usually decided by the last one breathing; if both still breathe, who wins? I think it's unfair to say that lulling the 3rd to sleep constitutes a win.

Furthermore medical skills above Tsunades level and A-rank Genjutsu like the Bringer of Darkness, which can only be dissolved in the case you touch the caster, conceivably a Bunshin of a group of ten. Right down the line overall skills, a lot of battle experience and genes so strong that cannot be controlled by everyone, reduce techniques intervals from 10 years down to a few hours and give you a powerboost when you only have a fraction of it.
So how can his strong, incontrollable genes that have the power to reduce technique intervals from 10 years down to a few hours be avantageous against the Raikage? Also, where/when is it stated/shown that Senju cells give a power boost? Or did you mean chakra? In that case, both the Raikage and Hashi have enormous chakra levels, being that the former fought for 3 days straight and died only from exhaustion.
Since Zetsu, being a clon of Hashirama with even low quality is a sensor type, it is likely much that Hashirama is a sensor, too. Hashirama enjoys god status
Once again, how is this helpful to Hashi in his battle against the 3rd?
Hashirama beat the perfect Susanoo, which is two to three times bigger than a Biju and obliterates the landscape and a distant mountain range by a single swing of its sword. Hashirama fights on a level where any Kage is not worthy to be even mentioned.
Sure it's larger than a biju, but it has been said to be equivalent in power to one (not specfically any beast), so how can the power be scaled? Especially in an argument of A>B, B>C, so therefore A>C. This is not the case in Naruto; the squeeze theorem does not apply.
It is clear as day, that the third Raikage would get stomped.[/FONT]
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He can make him unconscious but he still can't kill him. Also, Mokuton has only been able to suppress tailed beast chakra, not regular.

In no scenario does he get stomped. A draw at best. Feats AND hype.


Explain? Debate? Lols.
Mokuton was suppressing Gai's chakra as well when he was caught in the Wood Dragon jutsu.
 

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You can see dat Gai is slowly losing consciousness.
Indeed he is, but if you go back a chapter,

You will see that he is already exhausted before the wood dragon comes into contact with him.

Also, in chapter 601 before the Obito flashback, Gai and Kakashi were standing together, but after the flashback they are separated. I think it is safe to assume that some time has passed during the flashback; that it wasn't just a standstill moment.
 

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@Unbiased King,

Agreed, the 3rd will likely inhale the pollen and suffer those effects, but how would that kill him? A battle is usually decided by the last one breathing; if both still breathe, who wins? I think it's unfair to say that lulling the 3rd to sleep constitutes a win.
One loses the battle if he's not able to fight anymore, the death itself is not the only way to win a fight, taken Tsukuyomi as an example, which let you fall in coma after enduring its effects. Once the third Raikage inhaled the pollen, he's left paralyzed or asleep without being able to move. Hashirama could simply crush him with a single Mokuton technique, if he's lying on the ground without protecting himself.

So how can his strong, incontrollable genes that have the power to reduce technique intervals from 10 years down to a few hours be avantageous against the Raikage? Also, where/when is it stated/shown that Senju cells give a power boost? Or did you mean chakra? In that case, both the Raikage and Hashi have enormous chakra levels, being that the former fought for 3 days straight and died only from exhaustion.
I just wanted to clarify, that Hashirama has a great stamina, too. Everyone's seeking for a part of his power, he created a village, he created a valley in a fight with Madara.

Once again, how is this helpful to Hashi in his battle against the 3rd?
You should remember, that Naruto used his sensory ability, in order to go with the third's moves and push his hell stab into his own chest; the ability to sense the opponents techniques is just another benefit.

Sure it's larger than a biju, but it has been said to be equivalent in power to one (not specfically any beast), so how can the power be scaled? Especially in an argument of A>B, B>C, so therefore A>C. This is not the case in Naruto; the squeeze theorem does not apply.
ABC logic indeed works, as both the Bijus, Raikages and perfect Susanoos concept is based on destructive power, and the perfect Susanoo is by far superior to the other Biju, except of Kurama. Madara most likely referred to a single slash when comparing it with the Biju itself. This Susanoo is not only huger, it doesn't feel pain and can rebuild damaged parts of its body. The Akatsuki pairings have caught most of the Jinchuriki, though latter were pretty much good Jinchurikis, Kakuzu and Hidan even faced the full two tails. Madaras Susanoo however was going to crush the five Kage with a single stroke, it would easily destroy the most Biju. If Hashirama beat such a monstrosity, he will beat a human, too.
 

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He can make him unconscious but he still can't kill him. Also, Mokuton has only been able to suppress tailed beast chakra, not regular.

In no scenario does he get stomped. A draw at best. Feats AND hype.


Explain? Debate? Lols.
The 3rd Raikage's hype is child's play compared to Hashiram's hype. When the 3rd Raikage is noted to be so strong that everyone thought his power was a fairy tale then this can be a debate.

Feats? Flower Tree World puts him to sleep and then Hashirama finishes him off.

Feats and Hype Hashirama stomps low diff.
 
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