Why do people keep overrating Kamui in debates?

[Kusanagi35]

the manga showed that the reason why kakashi was able to warp the hatchibi twice is kuama chakra ,but it didn't show that you talk about
if kuarma can give someone chakra without even touch him ,why he needed to touch kakashi and other shinobi to give him chakra

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I don't know? Go ask Kishi?
As for now, Kakashi clearly stated what it was. Stop contradicting the manga

 

[kakashi ms]

I don't know? Go ask Kishi?
As for now, Kakashi clearly stated what it was. Stop contradicting the manga

who here contradicting the manga ?
the one who talk about thing didn't happen in the manga
we all know that the reason why kakashi was able to warp the hatchibi is kuama chakara
but all kamui and justus which kakashi used before kuama chakra was with his original chakra
the manga didn't show what you talk about (kakashi was affected with kuarma chakra)
you don't have evidence from the manga about you say,you just talk

 

[EliteKakashi]

He used it 3 times vs Deidara. So twice is pretty silly. He used it twice after being practically drained of all his chakra/stamina after his fight with Deva and Asura. 4 to 5 times sounds most logical right now given his stamina improvements.

 

[Kusanagi35]

He used it 3 times vs Deidara. So twice is pretty silly. He used it twice after being practically drained of all his chakra/stamina after his fight with Deva and Asura. 4 to 5 times sounds most logical right now given his stamina improvements.

No he used it 2 times against Deidara. Do you even read the manga buddy? Or are you a kakashi fanboy?
His chakra level didn't improve at all since then.

 

[Draphsin]

i'm not stupid ,i know when kuarma gave him chakra ,it is here after all jutsus which i mentioned

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if you think kakashi was affected with kuamra chakra even before he took it directly from kuarma so you think obito was affected with kuama too

If you believe kakashi came from the 7 swordsman battle to aid naruto and then pulled 5 kamui's out of his ass (4 and 5 are the same) then you must be a fanboy. Kakashi got chakra as soon as he was put in kurama's cloak

 

[EliteKakashi]

No he used it 2 times against Deidara. Do you even read the manga buddy? Or are you a kakashi fanboy?
His chakra level didn't improve at all since then.

First of all, I love how you ignore him using it twice against Pain on death's door, completely throwing out your ridiculous theory that at full chakra/stamina, he can only use it twice:

Once:

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Twice:

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2nd of all, do you read the manga?

Once:

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Twice:

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Three times:

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And depending on how you view it, you could say he used it twice vs Sasuke:

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Given there were two arrows, but it's likely, especially considering the speed of the arrows, that he simply made the barrier wide enough to engulf both of them.

I can't stand people such as yourself. You think you're superior to everyone in knowledge without even knowing REMOTELY what you're talking about. Tone down your arrogance and educate yourself, that goes for everything in life. Otherwise you'll keep having situations like these, and in the thread where

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Will you avoid responding to this one to?

There's nothing wrong with being incorrect about things. Everyone is from time to time. I hope you're not like this in real life, as the arrogance you show without educating yourself is astounding in these threads.

Also, his chakra level not improving? That brought the lulz.

Almost forgot, before you bring up something completely ridiculous like "The 2nd one vs Deidara doesn't count because it didn't warp anything", here's Kakashi showing that he has to build up and use the chakra to just activate the Kamui:

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[Midday]

6 times is more than enough. Warping something the size of the 8 tails is ridiculous, but he said he could do that because the 9 tails made it 3 times stronger so on the flip side he can warp something a third of the size which is still impressive. In conclusion Kaumi is still op.

 

[Draphsin]

First of all, I love how you ignore him using it twice against Pain on death's door, completely throwing out your ridiculous theory that at full chakra/stamina, he can only use it twice:

Once:

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Twice:

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2nd of all, do you read the manga?

Once:

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Twice:

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Three times:

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And depending on how you view it, you could say he used it twice vs Sasuke:

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Given there were two arrows, but it's likely, especially considering the speed of the arrows, that he simply made the barrier wide enough to engulf both of them.

I can't stand people such as yourself. You think you're superior to everyone in knowledge without even knowing REMOTELY what you're talking about. Tone down your arrogance and educate yourself, that goes for everything in life. Otherwise you'll keep having situations like these, and in the thread where

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Will you avoid responding to this one to?

There's nothing wrong with being incorrect about things. Everyone is from time to time. I hope you're not like this in real life, as the arrogance you show without educating yourself is astounding in these threads.

Also, his chakra level not improving? That brought the lulz.

Almost forgot, before you bring up something completely ridiculous like "The 2nd one vs Deidara doesn't count because it didn't warp anything", here's Kakashi showing that he has to build up and use the chakra to just activate the Kamui:

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1. The size of kamui affects chakra, the larger the object, the more chakra it takes. This is shown when kakashi warps gyuki (right after a chakra refill) and immediately runs out of chakra. So the fact that his kamui was so small means it took less chakra. And regardless, he still died from chakra exhaustion.
2. "using" kamui and "activating" his MS are two different things. Of course awakening MS takes up chakra, this is shown when kid kakashi faints after awakening MS for the first time. Knowing this, its safe to say that when his kamui misses or hits a small object it doesnt affect him much
3. he used it once against sasuke, he wouldnt and cant kamui 2 arrows being shot simultaneously, its way too fast and that would just be a waste of chakra

 

[EliteKakashi]

1. The size of kamui affects chakra, the larger the object, the more chakra it takes. This is shown when kakashi warps gyuki (right after a chakra refill) and immediately runs out of chakra. So the fact that his kamui was so small means it took less chakra. And regardless, he still died from chakra exhaustion.
2. "using" kamui and "activating" his MS are two different things. Of course awakening MS takes up chakra, this is shown when kid kakashi faints after awakening MS for the first time. Knowing this, its safe to say that when his kamui misses or hits a small object it doesnt affect him much
3. he used it once against sasuke, he wouldnt and cant kamui 2 arrows being shot simultaneously, its way too fast and that would just be a waste of chakra

I know that. He claimed in his opening post he can use it twice, irregardless of size, then pass out. That's completely false.

I'm aware. However, opening the barrier/wormhole/whatever requires the chakra. So even if he doesn't warp anything, that chakra leaves his body. He wouldn't build up chakra then use it if that were the case. He would just open it then put the chakra in afterwards to warp whatever, if that was how it worked. But, alas, that is not how it works. He calculates how much chakra he needs to warp whatever object and then uses it, there's no getting it back, it's gone irregardless if it's successful or not.

It is noted that his 2nd one vs Deidara drained him a good bit even though he didn't warp anything.

And yeah, I explained that in the post.

 

[Kusanagi35]

1. The size of kamui affects chakra, the larger the object, the more chakra it takes. This is shown when kakashi warps gyuki (right after a chakra refill) and immediately runs out of chakra. So the fact that his kamui was so small means it took less chakra. And regardless, he still died from chakra exhaustion.
2. "using" kamui and "activating" his MS are two different things. Of course awakening MS takes up chakra, this is shown when kid kakashi faints after awakening MS for the first time. Knowing this, its safe to say that when his kamui misses or hits a small object it doesnt affect him much
3. he used it once against sasuke, he wouldnt and cant kamui 2 arrows being shot simultaneously, its way too fast and that would just be a waste of chakra

First of all, I love how you ignore him using it twice against Pain on death's door, completely throwing out your ridiculous theory that at full chakra/stamina, he can only use it twice:

Once:

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Twice:

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2nd of all, do you read the manga?

Once:

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Twice:

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Three times:

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And depending on how you view it, you could say he used it twice vs Sasuke:

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Given there were two arrows, but it's likely, especially considering the speed of the arrows, that he simply made the barrier wide enough to engulf both of them.

I can't stand people such as yourself. You think you're superior to everyone in knowledge without even knowing REMOTELY what you're talking about. Tone down your arrogance and educate yourself, that goes for everything in life. Otherwise you'll keep having situations like these, and in the thread where

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Will you avoid responding to this one to?

There's nothing wrong with being incorrect about things. Everyone is from time to time. I hope you're not like this in real life, as the arrogance you show without educating yourself is astounding in these threads.

Also, his chakra level not improving? That brought the lulz.

Almost forgot, before you bring up something completely ridiculous like "The 2nd one vs Deidara doesn't count because it didn't warp anything", here's Kakashi showing that he has to build up and use the chakra to just activate the Kamui:

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This ^^^^^

Besides I never mentioned anything about Deva/Asura so why would I be responding about something I've never even talked about? Lol you're trying too hard buddy but in fact you fail.

You think you're so smart but you can't even read a manga properly, the "second time" that he used as you claimed , well he didn't even use it, it doesn't consume as much chakra nor does it damage his eye since he's not wrapping anything. So I was right, he used it twice against Deidara. About the rest of the post this guy spoke my mind, I'm done talking to you now, educate yourself a bit before attempting to debate with me.

 

[CommanderInChief]

yes because the justu which enable its user to kill gedo mazu or biju or jiubi or human with just a look ,it must be overpower

Too Bad it doesn't kill. ;].

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Who cares about Sakura

its that attitude that makes kishi consistently ignore and troll her