Orochimaru/Genjutsu Misconception!!!!!!

[blazekev90]

Agree and disagree. People saying oro's weakness is genjutsu clearly do not understand the manga.
Its already stated several times that the 2 vs 1 method is what is needed to fight a sharingan user because visual genjutsu are hard to combat and one's caught in them in a 1 vs 1 scenario you would lose.

Oro as you stated has a 5 in DB for genjutsu. To gain a 5 you need to be know in depth the category but also use it.
However note that just because oro also has a 5 doesn't mean that him and itachi stand equal in genjutsu, not at all. Merely means that oro is good enough to get a 5 just like itachi. It doesn't compare ninja's prowess and judge on this, but rather looks at the ninja as an individual. Not to forget that scores are capped at 5

The genjutsu oro faced was a kanashibari, or paralysis based genjutsu which takes away movement. Oro was struggling to move his arm in order to break free, but the reason he couldn't in time was because he was paralysed. Btw itachi NEVER came close to deal a vital blow. That genjutsu is close range to begin with, The proximity was always constant

In mentioning how they both have a 5 in databook, I in no way was trying to say they are equal in power regarding genjutsu. It's simply to show that Orochimaru too is very powerful with genjutsu in his own right.

btw the proximity wasn't constant. In that image, it is impossible for him to have been in that same location and cut Orochimaru's hand.

 

[blackstar9]

lol the fact is, Sasuke's binding genjutsu had no effect. Whether it was the environment or Orochimaru himself (which everything was inside of Orochimaru) lol

The fact is due to sasuke sharingan his jutsu failed. Whether in oro dimension or the outside world oro fails against sharingan. That doesn't make oro weak. Sharingan is bad match up for oro like most other ninja are at a disadvantage vs sharingan.

 

[blazekev90]

The fact is due to sasuke sharingan his jutsu failed. Whether in oro dimension or the outside world oro fails against sharingan. That doesn't make oro weak. Sharingan is bad match up for oro like most other ninja are at a disadvantage vs sharingan.

lol Sharingan genjutsu is the only real threat to Orochimaru and it's effects varies upon whose using it. This was just to simply point out that Orochimaru isn't "weak" to genjutsu. The thing is, most of his techniques themselves can be reversed by it's abilities.

 

[Blaze Release]

btw the proximity wasn't constant. In that image, it is impossible for him to have been in that same location and cut Orochimaru's hand.

Perhaps but the illusion was short range to begin with and the image you showed is when oro was caught in it. The distance was never great for a short range genjutsu. True there would be a little movement on itachi side to cut oro's hand, however nothing significant.

But yes this rumour about oro and to an extent nagato's weakness being genjutsu is bs.
Gamarinsho is a technique that cause problems for anybody let alone a sennin modo powered one. Similarly looking into itachi's eyes is something that will cost 99% of ninja's a fight in the manga.

 

[blazekev90]

Perhaps but the illusion was short range to begin with and the image you showed is when oro was caught in it. The distance was never great for a short range genjutsu. True there would be a little movement on itachi side to cut oro's hand, however nothing significant.

But yes this rumour about oro and to an extent nagato's weakness being genjutsu is bs.
Gamarinsho is a technique that cause problems for anybody let alone a sennin modo powered one. Similarly looking into itachi's eyes is something that will cost 99% of ninja's a fight in the manga.

Itachi still knew to rush over lol
Btw thank you for your support Blaze, it's appreciated lol

 

[Owarij]

Ignore Oro's weakness isn't genjutsu..., he's just susceptible to it like every other ninja bar perf Jinks and sasori...For a sannin however, he does some questionable things

 

[blazekev90]

Ignore Oro's weakness isn't genjutsu..., he's just susceptible to it like every other ninja bar perf Jinks and sasori...For a sannin however, he does some questionable things

right!

*sidenote* never noticed the difference in Sasori and Orchimaru's stats xd

 

[Owarij]

why did I have "ignore" in my reply o.0

and what differences do you mean?

 

[blazekev90]

why did I have "ignore" in my reply o.0

and what differences do you mean?

I once thought Sasori's stats were, not that this will change the outcome. But I was hoping that would somewhat make you see Orochimaru>=Sasori as I've stated before in our discussions

 

[VongolaX]

thank you for this. ive found someything interesting

 

[blazekev90]

thank you for this. ive found someything interesting

your welcome, thank you for reading!

 

[blazekev90]

how does Ochi have more stamnina??he couldnt even walk lol

when couldn't he walk??