Who is worse, Danzo or Orochimaru?

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Danzo: People believe he made hard choices for the village :sy: That was just an illusion, fabricated to hide his true motives, a Konoha built on his own principles, the world under his heel indefinitely. He did everything and anything to achieve that goal. KA the summit. Plot Hiruzen's assassination. He did all these things and lots more. He commanded patriotic leaf ninjas under the same illusion, and sent them to their death with the belief that their sacrifices would be beneficial for the village, when in fact they would only be beneficial for the progress of his own goals.

I'm not here to prove that though, I've already done that in one of my threads, feel free to look it up.

My question here is, Danzo did everything for his own selfish reasons under the illusion that he wanted the best for Konoha.

On the other hand, you have Orochimaru, who did pretty much the same thing, he openly slaughtered people, manipulated them, used them, etc etc. But Orochimaru never lied about his true intentions, he made it clear that everything he did, was for his own profit, for himself. He took in lost and lonely souls and gave them a purpose under his command, ex: Kimimaro, Kabuto, the guy that Shino destroyed. But he made it clear to them, that they were his pawns, and they were meant to live their lives serving Orochimaru.


So who was worse out of these two? The low life who hid his true intentions under a veil of selflessness? Or the guy who is pure evil but doesn't hide it at all, he's actually sort of proud of it.
 
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You sir are in his Genjutsu
Let's recap:

Fought for Kohona for years, in war. Can't take that away.

Killed messenger toad when Pain attacked Kohona in an attempt to keep Naruto from reaching the battle, because if Nagato captured Naruto, the entire ninja world was effectively screwed.

Had Oro continue his research to increase the battle capacity of Kohona.

Used Itachi to destroy the Uchiha because otherwise civil war would have broken out. The uchiha would have been wiped out regardless, with many more lives lost through the rest of the village.

The list could go on.
You're right, he's soooooooooooo much worse than Oro.
 

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I would have to say Danzo is more worst, he wasn't really trying to do anything but trying to control everyone in the village and wouldnt let them do what they would want for instance if he would of actually became the hokage naruto wouldnt of been able to do ****
Orochimaru is bad but at least they new what he was doing and he was honeset to all those who wanted to be there for a purpose. Just remember Danzo was the one who force itachi to do what he did to his clan cuz he wanted those eyes and he even taken that sharigan eye from shisui
 

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Danzo: People believe he made hard choices for the village :sy: That was just an illusion, fabricated to hide his true motives, a Konoha built on his own principles, the world under his heel indefinitely. He did everything and anything to achieve that goal. KA the summit. Plot Hiruzen's assassination. He did all these things and lots more. He commanded patriotic leaf ninjas under the same illusion, and sent them to their death with the belief that their sacrifices would be beneficial for the village, when in fact they would only be beneficial for the progress of his own goals.

I'm not here to prove that though, I've already done that in one of my threads, feel free to look it up.

My question here is, Danzo did everything for his own selfish reasons under the illusion that he wanted the best for Konoha.

On the other hand, you have Orochimaru, who did pretty much the same thing, he openly slaughtered people, manipulated them, used them, etc etc. But Orochimaru never lied about his true intentions, he made it clear that everything he did, was for his own profit, for himself. He took in lost and lonely souls and gave them a purpose under his command, ex: Kimimaro, Kabuto, the guy that Shino destroyed. But he made it clear to them, that they were his pawns, and they were meant to live their lives serving Orochimaru.


So who was worse out of these two? The low life who hid his true intentions under a veil of selflessness? Or the guy who is pure evil but doesn't hide it at all, he's actually sort of proud of it.
At least Danzo had some friendly regards for some. He idolized Hiruzen and he (on some level) does indeed love the village. Orochimaru, on the other hand, loves only himself. He will use anyone and anything and has no regards for anyone. I think he takes the evil cake in this.
 

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i hate danzo because he used people in the most dishonest way. at least orochimaru was straight forward when he wanted to use someone. Im just saying.
I would say there is some virtue in lying. People lie sometimes to spare feelings. Just because Orochimaru has no regards about someone's opinion, doesn't mean he is anymore the saint. In fact, the only reason he was so straight-forward, was due to him being so powerful, he could make almost any plan come into fruition.
 

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Let's recap:

Fought for Kohona for years, in war. Can't take that away.

Killed messenger toad when Pain attacked Kohona in an attempt to keep Naruto from reaching the battle, because if Nagato captured Naruto, the entire ninja world was effectively screwed.

Had Oro continue his research to increase the battle capacity of Kohona.

Used Itachi to destroy the Uchiha because otherwise civil war would have broken out. The uchiha would have been wiped out regardless, with many more lives lost through the rest of the village.

The list could go on.
You're right, he's soooooooooooo much worse than Oro.
yep :hint:
 

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Let's recap:

Fought for Kohona for years, in war. Can't take that away. So did Orochimaru and Obito(he actually died for it, kind of)

Killed messenger toad when Pain attacked Kohona in an attempt to keep Naruto from reaching the battle, because if Nagato captured Naruto, the entire ninja world was effectively screwed. That was for himself, he wanted the Kyuubi for himself, that's why he had Senju and Uchiha powers.

Had Oro continue his research to increase the battle capacity of Kohona.And yet Konoha never got to use that because he never helped Konoha during any attack. More like, battle capacity of himself. lol

Used Itachi to destroy the Uchiha because otherwise civil war would have broken out. The uchiha would have been wiped out regardless, with many more lives lost through the rest of the village.Yeah he went behind the Hokage's back to order a massacre for his Izanagi. Hiruzen wasn't too worried was he? He had something in mind, Danzo wanted to prevent a peaceful solution to obtain his Sharingan.

The list could go on.
You're right, he's soooooooooooo much worse than Oro.You're right, his list of selfishness has no limits. He was even there when Yahiko was eliminated from Obito's path and Nagato was made a perfect target for his manipulation. I wonder what that was about.......Kyuubi incident?
Bold is my answer^ also, read this thread and learn Danzo's true colours.
 
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